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Another danger to outside cats.
I am normally an "Outside cat" person, and my five cats are all
outside/inside cats. (they have two cat doors through which they can get outside the house) I have gone around and around with inside catters several times now, and I don't want to renew that discussion. However, recently one of my cats uncovered another danger that I feel it is instructive to address. He got into some lawn fertilizer and/or weed chemicals that poisoned him rather badly. Apparently, cats, being fastidious groomers are prone to poisoning themselves by licking their feet and/or fur after getting into anything distasteful. This cat damaged his liver by licking some unknown quantity of lawn chemicals off of himself. I felt that I should warn others of this possibility. |
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Another danger to outside cats.
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:19:11 -0700, "Bill Graham"
wrote: I am normally an "Outside cat" person, and my five cats are all outside/inside cats. (they have two cat doors through which they can get outside the house) I have gone around and around with inside catters several times now, and I don't want to renew that discussion. However, recently one of my cats uncovered another danger that I feel it is instructive to address. He got into some lawn fertilizer and/or weed chemicals that poisoned him rather badly. Apparently, cats, being fastidious groomers are prone to poisoning themselves by licking their feet and/or fur after getting into anything distasteful. This cat damaged his liver by licking some unknown quantity of lawn chemicals off of himself. I felt that I should warn others of this possibility. Well: can I get a DUH? This is just ANOTHER of the MANY reasons why cats are SAFER, and live LONGER LIVES, if they stay INSIDE. |
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Another danger to outside cats.
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:19:11 -0700, "Bill Graham"
wrote: I am normally an "Outside cat" person, and my five cats are all outside/inside cats. (they have two cat doors through which they can get outside the house) I have gone around and around with inside catters several times now, and I don't want to renew that discussion. However, recently one of my cats uncovered another danger that I feel it is instructive to address. He got into some lawn fertilizer and/or weed chemicals that poisoned him rather badly. Apparently, cats, being fastidious groomers are prone to poisoning themselves by licking their feet and/or fur after getting into anything distasteful. This cat damaged his liver by licking some unknown quantity of lawn chemicals off of himself. I felt that I should warn others of this possibility. Well: can I get a DUH? This is just ANOTHER of the MANY reasons why cats are SAFER, and live LONGER LIVES, if they stay INSIDE. Yes, but also a lot duller, less interesting lives. This doesn't matter if the cat has always been an inside cat, and doesn't know any better. But all my cats were acquired as adults and were outside cats all of their lives. Most of them just wandered onto my property, and liked the, "cut of my jib", and decided to stay. If you live in a rural neighborhood, or a farm, the very idea of keeping your cats inside is ridiculous. If you live in a big city, it is just as ridiculous to try to keep outside cats. So, to make a blanket statement about how you keep cats is basically stupid. |
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Another danger to outside cats.
Per Gandalf ingold1234:
This is just ANOTHER of the MANY reasons why cats are SAFER, and live LONGER LIVES, if they stay INSIDE. Somewhere I read that people live for a very long time in underground cells in places like Lubianka or Marion prison. I'm guessing part of the reason is that they are so safe and free of stress - but I'd rather die 10-15 years earlier and be free. Rationally, I know that probably doesn't extrapolate to something with a single-digit IQ, but I still can't help feeling sorry for the neighbor's indoor cats when I go to care for them when the neighbor is away. -- PeteCresswell |
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Another danger to outside cats.
(PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Gandalf ingold1234: This is just ANOTHER of the MANY reasons why cats are SAFER, and live LONGER LIVES, if they stay INSIDE. Somewhere I read that people live for a very long time in underground cells in places like Lubianka or Marion prison. I'm guessing part of the reason is that they are so safe and free of stress - but I'd rather die 10-15 years earlier and be free. Rationally, I know that probably doesn't extrapolate to something with a single-digit IQ, but I still can't help feeling sorry for the neighbor's indoor cats when I go to care for them when the neighbor is away. There is no question that cats are, "SAFER, and live LONGER LIVES, if they stay INSIDE." The question is, is it better to live a longer life, or an enjoyable life? If a cat has never been outside, then he might live a very enjoyable life inside. but if he has lived free all of his life, then perhaps it would be unkind to force him to abandon that free life in the interest of safety. All creatures, large and small, have to die sooner or later. So, you might as well enjoy life while you've got it, and cats, with no understanding of their own eventual death, can't understand why they are trapped inside when others can come and go. And, what does it really matter in a universe that is over 20 billion years old, whether they live 15 years or 15 months? As long as you give them days that are as enjoyable as they can get, you can't do any more for them than that. |
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Another danger to outside cats.
(PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Gandalf ingold1234: This is just ANOTHER of the MANY reasons why cats are SAFER, and live LONGER LIVES, if they stay INSIDE. Somewhere I read that people live for a very long time in underground cells in places like Lubianka or Marion prison. I'm guessing part of the reason is that they are so safe and free of stress - but I'd rather die 10-15 years earlier and be free. Rationally, I know that probably doesn't extrapolate to something with a single-digit IQ, but I still can't help feeling sorry for the neighbor's indoor cats when I go to care for them when the neighbor is away. There is no question that cats are, "SAFER, and live LONGER LIVES, if they stay INSIDE." The question is, is it better to live a longer life, or an enjoyable life? If a cat has never been outside, then he might live a very enjoyable life inside. but if he has lived free all of his life, then perhaps it would be unkind to force him to abandon that free life in the interest of safety. All creatures, large and small, have to die sooner or later. So, you might as well enjoy life while you've got it, and cats, with no understanding of their own eventual death, can't understand why they are trapped inside when others can come and go. And, what does it really matter in a universe that is over 20 billion years old, whether they live 15 years or 15 months? As long as you give them days that are as enjoyable as they can get, you can't do any more for them than that. |
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Another danger to outside cats.
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:30:49 -0700, "Bill Graham"
wrote: (PeteCresswell) wrote: Per Gandalf ingold1234: This is just ANOTHER of the MANY reasons why cats are SAFER, and live LONGER LIVES, if they stay INSIDE. Somewhere I read that people live for a very long time in underground cells in places like Lubianka or Marion prison. I'm guessing part of the reason is that they are so safe and free of stress - but I'd rather die 10-15 years earlier and be free. Rationally, I know that probably doesn't extrapolate to something with a single-digit IQ, but I still can't help feeling sorry for the neighbor's indoor cats when I go to care for them when the neighbor is away. There is no question that cats are, "SAFER, and live LONGER LIVES, if they stay INSIDE." The question is, is it better to live a longer life, or an enjoyable life? If a cat has never been outside, then he might live a very enjoyable life inside. but if he has lived free all of his life, then perhaps it would be unkind to force him to abandon that free life in the interest of safety. All creatures, large and small, have to die sooner or later. So, you might as well enjoy life while you've got it, and cats, with no understanding of their own eventual death, can't understand why they are trapped inside when others can come and go. And, what does it really matter in a universe that is over 20 billion years old, whether they live 15 years or 15 months? As long as you give them days that are as enjoyable as they can get, you can't do any more for them than that. You really are an idiot. You have reached a new high in self delusion. Everybody that owns a canary or other bird: according to this numbskull, you MUST let them ALL go, immediately. Keeping them in a cage indoors is CRUEL! Set ALL ANIMALS free NOW! Sure, they'll starve to death, shortly, or die in the fall, when it gets cold, but they will die HAPPY. Or so **** for brains says. |
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Another danger to outside cats.
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:30:49 -0700, "Bill Graham"
wrote: (PeteCresswell) wrote: Per Gandalf ingold1234: This is just ANOTHER of the MANY reasons why cats are SAFER, and live LONGER LIVES, if they stay INSIDE. Somewhere I read that people live for a very long time in underground cells in places like Lubianka or Marion prison. I'm guessing part of the reason is that they are so safe and free of stress - but I'd rather die 10-15 years earlier and be free. Rationally, I know that probably doesn't extrapolate to something with a single-digit IQ, but I still can't help feeling sorry for the neighbor's indoor cats when I go to care for them when the neighbor is away. There is no question that cats are, "SAFER, and live LONGER LIVES, if they stay INSIDE." The question is, is it better to live a longer life, or an enjoyable life? If a cat has never been outside, then he might live a very enjoyable life inside. but if he has lived free all of his life, then perhaps it would be unkind to force him to abandon that free life in the interest of safety. All creatures, large and small, have to die sooner or later. So, you might as well enjoy life while you've got it, and cats, with no understanding of their own eventual death, can't understand why they are trapped inside when others can come and go. And, what does it really matter in a universe that is over 20 billion years old, whether they live 15 years or 15 months? As long as you give them days that are as enjoyable as they can get, you can't do any more for them than that. You really are an idiot. You have reached a new high in self delusion. Everybody that owns a canary or other bird: according to this numbskull, you MUST let them ALL go, immediately. Keeping them in a cage indoors is CRUEL! Set ALL ANIMALS free NOW! Sure, they'll starve to death, shortly, or die in the fall, when it gets cold, but they will die HAPPY. Or so **** for brains says. I have an idea Gandy.... Why not make a law that dictates that everyone has to spend their entire lives in a padded cell? that way, there is no way they can accidently hurt themselves, and everyone will live as long as is physically possible. And, as an honorary early proponent of this idea, you can be the first to enter your cell....... |
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Another danger to outside cats.
Bill Graham wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:30:49 -0700, "Bill Graham" wrote: (PeteCresswell) wrote: Per Gandalf ingold1234: This is just ANOTHER of the MANY reasons why cats are SAFER, and live LONGER LIVES, if they stay INSIDE. Somewhere I read that people live for a very long time in underground cells in places like Lubianka or Marion prison. I'm guessing part of the reason is that they are so safe and free of stress - but I'd rather die 10-15 years earlier and be free. Rationally, I know that probably doesn't extrapolate to something with a single-digit IQ, but I still can't help feeling sorry for the neighbor's indoor cats when I go to care for them when the neighbor is away. There is no question that cats are, "SAFER, and live LONGER LIVES, if they stay INSIDE." The question is, is it better to live a longer life, or an enjoyable life? If a cat has never been outside, then he might live a very enjoyable life inside. but if he has lived free all of his life, then perhaps it would be unkind to force him to abandon that free life in the interest of safety. All creatures, large and small, have to die sooner or later. So, you might as well enjoy life while you've got it, and cats, with no understanding of their own eventual death, can't understand why they are trapped inside when others can come and go. And, what does it really matter in a universe that is over 20 billion years old, whether they live 15 years or 15 months? As long as you give them days that are as enjoyable as they can get, you can't do any more for them than that. You really are an idiot. You have reached a new high in self delusion. Everybody that owns a canary or other bird: according to this numbskull, you MUST let them ALL go, immediately. Keeping them in a cage indoors is CRUEL! Set ALL ANIMALS free NOW! Sure, they'll starve to death, shortly, or die in the fall, when it gets cold, but they will die HAPPY. Or so **** for brains says. I have an idea Gandy.... Why not make a law that dictates that everyone has to spend their entire lives in a padded cell? that way, there is no way they can accidently hurt themselves, and everyone will live as long as is physically possible. And, as an honorary early proponent of this idea, you can be the first to enter your cell....... .....Of course, mental health is not guaranteed by the above solution. but then, you don't care about that, do you Gandy? Going crazy from boredom doesn't matter a damn to you. Just so long as you live for as long a time as possible, you will be happy..... |
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Another danger to outside cats.
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 22:48:43 -0700, "Bill Graham"
wrote: Bill Graham wrote: On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:30:49 -0700, "Bill Graham" wrote: (PeteCresswell) wrote: Per Gandalf ingold1234: This is just ANOTHER of the MANY reasons why cats are SAFER, and live LONGER LIVES, if they stay INSIDE. Somewhere I read that people live for a very long time in underground cells in places like Lubianka or Marion prison. I'm guessing part of the reason is that they are so safe and free of stress - but I'd rather die 10-15 years earlier and be free. Rationally, I know that probably doesn't extrapolate to something with a single-digit IQ, but I still can't help feeling sorry for the neighbor's indoor cats when I go to care for them when the neighbor is away. There is no question that cats are, "SAFER, and live LONGER LIVES, if they stay INSIDE." The question is, is it better to live a longer life, or an enjoyable life? If a cat has never been outside, then he might live a very enjoyable life inside. but if he has lived free all of his life, then perhaps it would be unkind to force him to abandon that free life in the interest of safety. All creatures, large and small, have to die sooner or later. So, you might as well enjoy life while you've got it, and cats, with no understanding of their own eventual death, can't understand why they are trapped inside when others can come and go. And, what does it really matter in a universe that is over 20 billion years old, whether they live 15 years or 15 months? As long as you give them days that are as enjoyable as they can get, you can't do any more for them than that. You really are an idiot. You have reached a new high in self delusion. Everybody that owns a canary or other bird: according to this numbskull, you MUST let them ALL go, immediately. Keeping them in a cage indoors is CRUEL! Set ALL ANIMALS free NOW! Sure, they'll starve to death, shortly, or die in the fall, when it gets cold, but they will die HAPPY. Or so **** for brains says. I have an idea Gandy.... Why not make a law that dictates that everyone has to spend their entire lives in a padded cell? that way, there is no way they can accidently hurt themselves, and everyone will live as long as is physically possible. And, as an honorary early proponent of this idea, you can be the first to enter your cell....... ....Of course, mental health is not guaranteed by the above solution. but then, you don't care about that, do you Gandy? Going crazy from boredom doesn't matter a damn to you. Just so long as you live for as long a time as possible, you will be happy..... Wow. What an incredibly witty and clever response. /sarcasm/ I'm having a battle of wits, with an unarmed opponent. |
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