Compartments and fire.

Hmmm, Good idearment! Fangu.

On Monday 15 October 2007 12:38, Stormmee wrote:

tell da hooman ta chae hisef inna hooman litter box rum anna den da
space iz smallerta katchisef, Tiger
Fred Williams wrote in message
...
We just had a fire alarm in our building and there was no
trouble
getting Diana and Ryan into their travel cases, but Cinnamon was
running everywhere. He's always been such a panicy kitty and the
bell
ringing makes him really scared. Just as Fred was leaving him behind
and going out the compartment door, the bells stopped and we all came
back in. It was nothing threatening, but a gudgud exercise. We
can't think of aenny way to get a panicky kitty into a cage in short
order. Maybe somehow establish it as a place of refuge. Sum day there
might be a real fire and we'd need to get hisownself out or ... well
that could be too hard to imagine, but we can't risk Ryan and
Myownself just because Cinnamon won't get into his travel carrier.

--
Regards,
Fred
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Fred
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Yes, although at the time I thought it was just a false alarm or a stove
fire in a distant apartment. Every apartment here has a thick concrete
wall around it to provide sound insulation and prevent a fire from
spreading, then the fire dept is quick to arrive as well. So we're
pretty safe.

On Monday 15 October 2007 12:45, Granby wrote:

Oh, that must have been a panicy time for all. When they get
frightened, there is just no catching them, Piglet is like that.

Glad it wasn't more serious and can imagine how you woould feel at
haveing to leave any one of them behind.
"Fred Williams" wrote in message
...
We just had a fire alarm in our building and there was no
trouble
getting Diana and Ryan into their travel cases, but Cinnamon was
running everywhere. He's always been such a panicy kitty and the
bell
ringing makes him really scared. Just as Fred was leaving him behind
and going out the compartment door, the bells stopped and we all came
back in. It was nothing threatening, but a gudgud exercise. We
can't think of aenny way to get a panicky kitty into a cage in short
order. Maybe somehow establish it as a place of refuge. Sum day there
might be a real fire and we'd need to get hisownself out or ... well
that could be too hard to imagine, but we can't risk Ryan and
Myownself just because Cinnamon won't get into his travel carrier.

--
Regards,
Fred
http://www.fredwilliams.ca/thesecretofmoney.html

--
Regards,
Fred
http://www.fredwilliams.ca/thesecretofmoney.html

On Monday 15 October 2007 12:50, John Ross Mc Master wrote:

On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:36:32 -0400, Fred Williams
wrote:

We just had a fire alarm in our building and there was no
trouble
getting Diana and Ryan into their travel cases, but Cinnamon was
running everywhere. He's always been such a panicy kitty and the bell
ringing makes him really scared. Just as Fred was leaving him behind
and going out the compartment door, the bells stopped and we all came
back in. It was nothing threatening, but a gudgud exercise. We can't
think of aenny way to get a panicky kitty into a cage in short order.
Maybe somehow establish it as a place of refuge. Sum day there might
be a real fire and we'd need to get hisownself out or ... well that
could be too hard to imagine, but we can't risk Ryan and Myownself
just because Cinnamon won't get into his travel carrier.


keep nip and fudz in the carrier. make it his noo restorunt.
beauty

I was trying to think of a way and I have started to leave the carriers
open on the floor. The food and nip is a good idea.

--
Regards,
Fred
http://www.fredwilliams.ca/thesecretofmoney.html

If that will work for you. From what kitties and humans are saying I
think it might be good to have the carriers down all the time so they
all think of them as comfortable places. Ryan goes into a box or a bag
or a carrier the moment it is put on the floor and he was the first
into the carrier today. Diana had to be put in and objected at first,
but then trusted my judgement. Cinnamon was freaked and wouldn't let
me near him. He didn't come out of hiding for a good 5 hours after,
and then only at supper time. Ryan needed reassuring and Cinnamon
wanted a good bit of attention at supper as well. It's hard to tell
with Diana, because she's always on top of me anyway.
So I'll be putting their food in the carriers for them and maybe a bit
of nip in a day or two. I'll try to make those places of safety for
them so they will rush to them any time they are frightened and that
will simplify evecuation,... hopefully we'll never need it.

On Monday 15 October 2007 13:19, Me wrote:

I've thought of this since I think I'd have trouble getting them into
carriers under the best of circumstances, so I have some extra pillow
cases that I can grab and stuff them it. Might not be the most
comfortable solution for the kitties, but it would have a higher rate
of success. Booker I'd just toss out the door, knowing that we can
retrieve him easily. Snowflake and Chappy I'd want in the pillowcases.

Julie


Fred Williams wrote:

We just had a fire alarm in our building and there was no
trouble
getting Diana and Ryan into their travel cases, but Cinnamon was
running everywhere. He's always been such a panicy kitty and the
bell
ringing makes him really scared. Just as Fred was leaving him behind
and going out the compartment door, the bells stopped and we all came
back in. It was nothing threatening, but a gudgud exercise. We
can't think of aenny way to get a panicky kitty into a cage in short
order. Maybe somehow establish it as a place of refuge. Sum day there
might be a real fire and we'd need to get hisownself out or ... well
that could be too hard to imagine, but we can't risk Ryan and
Myownself just because Cinnamon won't get into his travel carrier.


--
Regards,
Fred
http://www.fredwilliams.ca/thesecretofmoney.html

Fred, we all hope yuou will never need it again. I at least once a day put
treats in the big dog cage for the three cats. They run in to get them and
I shut the door while they eat. Then, I let them out and often they stay
and lay down on the pillows in there. Am just getting them used to the
suitcase on wheels and so far, they will run there for a treat. I figure
that in the long run, that would be quicker to move than a cage. They won't
sufficate for a few minutes if I had to close it and, harness and leashes
are always nearby to grab.
"Fred Williams" wrote in message
...
If that will work for you. From what kitties and humans are saying I
think it might be good to have the carriers down all the time so they
all think of them as comfortable places. Ryan goes into a box or a bag
or a carrier the moment it is put on the floor and he was the first
into the carrier today. Diana had to be put in and objected at first,
but then trusted my judgement. Cinnamon was freaked and wouldn't let
me near him. He didn't come out of hiding for a good 5 hours after,
and then only at supper time. Ryan needed reassuring and Cinnamon
wanted a good bit of attention at supper as well. It's hard to tell
with Diana, because she's always on top of me anyway.
So I'll be putting their food in the carriers for them and maybe a bit
of nip in a day or two. I'll try to make those places of safety for
them so they will rush to them any time they are frightened and that
will simplify evecuation,... hopefully we'll never need it.

On Monday 15 October 2007 13:19, Me wrote:

I've thought of this since I think I'd have trouble getting them into
carriers under the best of circumstances, so I have some extra pillow
cases that I can grab and stuff them it. Might not be the most
comfortable solution for the kitties, but it would have a higher rate
of success. Booker I'd just toss out the door, knowing that we can
retrieve him easily. Snowflake and Chappy I'd want in the pillowcases.

Julie


Fred Williams wrote:

We just had a fire alarm in our building and there was no
trouble
getting Diana and Ryan into their travel cases, but Cinnamon was
running everywhere. He's always been such a panicy kitty and the
bell
ringing makes him really scared. Just as Fred was leaving him behind
and going out the compartment door, the bells stopped and we all came
back in. It was nothing threatening, but a gudgud exercise. We
can't think of aenny way to get a panicky kitty into a cage in short
order. Maybe somehow establish it as a place of refuge. Sum day there
might be a real fire and we'd need to get hisownself out or ... well
that could be too hard to imagine, but we can't risk Ryan and
Myownself just because Cinnamon won't get into his travel carrier.


--
Regards,
Fred
http://www.fredwilliams.ca/thesecretofmoney.html

soft alzo sayz ifin you can store da kitty jail where its ezezt ta katch the
kitty dat hepz. Tiger
Fred Williams wrote in message
...
Hmmm, Good idearment! Fangu.

On Monday 15 October 2007 12:38, Stormmee wrote:

tell da hooman ta chae hisef inna hooman litter box rum anna den da
space iz smallerta katchisef, Tiger
Fred Williams wrote in message
...
We just had a fire alarm in our building and there was no
trouble
getting Diana and Ryan into their travel cases, but Cinnamon was
running everywhere. He's always been such a panicy kitty and the
bell
ringing makes him really scared. Just as Fred was leaving him behind
and going out the compartment door, the bells stopped and we all came
back in. It was nothing threatening, but a gudgud exercise. We
can't think of aenny way to get a panicky kitty into a cage in short
order. Maybe somehow establish it as a place of refuge. Sum day there
might be a real fire and we'd need to get hisownself out or ... well
that could be too hard to imagine, but we can't risk Ryan and
Myownself just because Cinnamon won't get into his travel carrier.

--
Regards,
Fred
http://www.fredwilliams.ca/thesecretofmoney.html

--
Regards,
Fred
http://www.fredwilliams.ca/thesecretofmoney.html

Yes indeed. Fangu effuryone.

On Tuesday 16 October 2007 05:24, Stormmee wrote:

soft alzo sayz ifin you can store da kitty jail where its ezezt ta
katch the
kitty dat hepz. Tiger
Fred Williams wrote in message
...
Hmmm, Good idearment! Fangu.

On Monday 15 October 2007 12:38, Stormmee wrote:

tell da hooman ta chae hisef inna hooman litter box rum anna den da
space iz smallerta katchisef, Tiger
Fred Williams wrote in message
...
We just had a fire alarm in our building and there was no
trouble
getting Diana and Ryan into their travel cases, but Cinnamon was
running everywhere. He's always been such a panicy kitty and the
bell
ringing makes him really scared. Just as Fred was leaving him
behind and going out the compartment door, the bells stopped and
we all came
back in. It was nothing threatening, but a gudgud exercise. We
can't think of aenny way to get a panicky kitty into a cage in
short order. Maybe somehow establish it as a place of refuge. Sum
day there might be a real fire and we'd need to get hisownself out
or ... well that could be too hard to imagine, but we can't risk
Ryan and Myownself just because Cinnamon won't get into his travel
carrier.

--
Regards,
Fred
http://www.fredwilliams.ca/thesecretofmoney.html

--
Regards,
Fred
http://www.fredwilliams.ca/thesecretofmoney.html

--
Regards,
Fred
http://www.fredwilliams.ca/thesecretofmoney.html

iz you all kalmed down now? Tiger
Fred Williams wrote in message
...
Yes indeed. Fangu effuryone.

On Tuesday 16 October 2007 05:24, Stormmee wrote:

soft alzo sayz ifin you can store da kitty jail where its ezezt ta
katch the
kitty dat hepz. Tiger
Fred Williams wrote in message
...
Hmmm, Good idearment! Fangu.

On Monday 15 October 2007 12:38, Stormmee wrote:

tell da hooman ta chae hisef inna hooman litter box rum anna den da
space iz smallerta katchisef, Tiger
Fred Williams wrote in message
...
We just had a fire alarm in our building and there was no
trouble
getting Diana and Ryan into their travel cases, but Cinnamon was
running everywhere. He's always been such a panicy kitty and the
bell
ringing makes him really scared. Just as Fred was leaving him
behind and going out the compartment door, the bells stopped and
we all came
back in. It was nothing threatening, but a gudgud exercise. We
can't think of aenny way to get a panicky kitty into a cage in
short order. Maybe somehow establish it as a place of refuge. Sum
day there might be a real fire and we'd need to get hisownself out
or ... well that could be too hard to imagine, but we can't risk
Ryan and Myownself just because Cinnamon won't get into his travel
carrier.

--
Regards,
Fred
http://www.fredwilliams.ca/thesecretofmoney.html

--
Regards,
Fred
http://www.fredwilliams.ca/thesecretofmoney.html

--
Regards,
Fred
http://www.fredwilliams.ca/thesecretofmoney.html

In article ,
says...
If that will work for you. From what kitties and humans are saying I
think it might be good to have the carriers down all the time so they
all think of them as comfortable places.

You have unwittingly posted about a subject that I am VERY passionate
about, with respect to cat care, Fred.

I am an EXTREMELY STRONG ADVOCATE for leaving cat carriers out in the
open in anyone's home, AS WELL AS leaving the doors to the carriers
open, so that the kitties can come and go from/to the carriers as they
please.

Cat carriers MUST be seen by kitties as a safe haven, and not as a
"kitty jail", and it is because of situations like the fire alarm that
you experienced, or even going to TED, especially in an emergent
situation, that I feel as strongly as I do about this issue.

Also, while they may have "safe havens" around the home, I believe that
kitties need more than just one or two safe havens in their home. I
believe that having the carriers out and open gives them that extra safe
haven to go to when they are stressed out (for whatever reason).

From the minute I first got Onyx, I left his carrier out in the open,
and I left the door ajar. I also put in a little blanket or two for him
to lay on, so that it wasn't just a cold, plastic carrier, but rather, a
warm, inviting place where he would feel safe. He went into his carrier
on a regular basis, and would even sleep in it on some nights when he
wanted to be by himself and not around me.

No cat should ever, ever feel like a cat carrier is a "bad" place to go,
as if they're being punished for something. Otherwise, you'll never get
the cat in the carrier when timing is of the essence. Of course, treats
will and DO help in those most stressful of times (e.g. when a fire
alarm is blaring during the middle of the night), and should never be
omitted, whether on purpose or by accident (also, to clue kitty in on
the fact that the carrier IS, in fact, a safe place to go, a fun place
to go, use treats when first teaching kitty about the carrier
experience. That way, he'll learn that being in a carrier also means he
gets a treat/reward).

This is just my own opinion and personal experience with Onyx, of
course. I DO realize that every kitty is different, and that your
experiences may differ from mine as a result.

--- (Unca) Cory

Ryan goes into a box or a bag
or a carrier the moment it is put on the floor and he was the first
into the carrier today. Diana had to be put in and objected at first,
but then trusted my judgement. Cinnamon was freaked and wouldn't let
me near him. He didn't come out of hiding for a good 5 hours after,
and then only at supper time. Ryan needed reassuring and Cinnamon
wanted a good bit of attention at supper as well. It's hard to tell
with Diana, because she's always on top of me anyway.
So I'll be putting their food in the carriers for them and maybe a bit
of nip in a day or two. I'll try to make those places of safety for
them so they will rush to them any time they are frightened and that
will simplify evecuation,... hopefully we'll never need it.

Efurry kitty is back to normal. We're resting today.

Diana, Ryan & Cinnamon.

On Tuesday 16 October 2007 06:44, Stormmee wrote:

iz you all kalmed down now? Tiger
Fred Williams wrote in message
...
Yes indeed. Fangu effuryone.

On Tuesday 16 October 2007 05:24, Stormmee wrote:

soft alzo sayz ifin you can store da kitty jail where its ezezt ta
katch the
kitty dat hepz. Tiger
Fred Williams wrote in message
...
Hmmm, Good idearment! Fangu.

On Monday 15 October 2007 12:38, Stormmee wrote:

tell da hooman ta chae hisef inna hooman litter box rum anna den
da space iz smallerta katchisef, Tiger
Fred Williams wrote in message
...
We just had a fire alarm in our building and there was
no trouble
getting Diana and Ryan into their travel cases, but Cinnamon
was
running everywhere. He's always been such a panicy kitty and
the bell
ringing makes him really scared. Just as Fred was leaving him
behind and going out the compartment door, the bells stopped
and we all came
back in. It was nothing threatening, but a gudgud exercise.
We can't think of aenny way to get a panicky kitty into a cage
in short order. Maybe somehow establish it as a place of
refuge. Sum day there might be a real fire and we'd need to get
hisownself out or ... well that could be too hard to imagine,
but we can't risk Ryan and Myownself just because Cinnamon
won't get into his travel carrier.

--
Regards,
Fred
http://www.fredwilliams.ca/thesecretofmoney.html

--
Regards,
Fred
http://www.fredwilliams.ca/thesecretofmoney.html

--
Regards,
Fred
http://www.fredwilliams.ca/thesecretofmoney.html

--
Regards,
Fred
http://www.fredwilliams.ca/thesecretofmoney.html