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I tried to send this via email, but my note replying to you bounced, so I'm
going to post it here (but I won't post the contents of your email without your permission). BTW, as I said in my post, I have no problem with letting the entire world see what I have to say to any one person - I don't go behind people's backs to say things about them that I'm afraid to say to their face. And also BTW, you may ask people here on the group (or on the anecdotes group) what they think about me - I won't respond to them with rancor under this particular flag of truce, but I can't say it doesn't bother me that people are willing to say nasty things about me via email but are too afraid to post it here. Anyway, here's my note copied and pasted from my "Sent" folder. The only thing I added is in [()] and that only because after reading this I regretted how harsh I sounded about Phil, because I really do like him. But, in fairness, if I'm going to blast someone else about writing about people behind their backs, I should be woman enough to stand up and face the consequences it if I'm guilty of the same thing. I regret it's harshness, but don't deny the truth of it. My email to you..... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm so sorry you feel that way. I truly am sitting here with tears in my eyes because I *had* counted you a friend. I sincerely apologized for going off on you that once and I thought you had forgiven me. As to the interplay with Phil - I tried to ignore what he was saying about you rather than coming to your defense because of Phil, not because of how I felt about you or whether or not I thought you were telling the truth (I do - that's why I posted video of kittens attacking children out of the blue, which, look at the video, they clearly do). As a long-time poster on rpch+b, I've seen what Phil is like when he gets a bug up his @$$ about something or someone. He will keep posting flames until his dying breath - all peppered with LOLs and sarcasm - and he gets nastier with each post. If you do or say something he doesn't like, and he comments about it, the best thing to do is ignore him because you'll *NEVER* get him to change his mind. *THAT'S* why I don't dispute him about *ANYTHING*, not just you, but anything - he is like a pit bull with a rope, he'll never let it go - he will never let an argument die and I just don't have the energy right now to argue with him. [(All of that is not to say that I dislike him or ignore his advice - I have nothing but respect for him and his knowledge, but I won't ever get in a flame war with him. And, ironically, his very determination and stubbornness is what makes him such a good advocate of cats, domestic and feral.)] I don't know, at this point, how I can convince you of this, but I *DO* care about you and your family as well as Gabby - my impression of you was of a bright, concerned mother and brand-new cat slave. I am so, so sorry that you've come to dislike me, because I really enjoyed corresponding with you. Not to use it as an excuse, but this whole time of year is really difficult for me and maybe I wrote something bitchy? If so, I profusely apologize, I didn't mean to insult you. As to the people who wrote to you off-line, I could probably tell you who they are (they're all known for going behind people's back via email and saying nasty things while either not posting on the group at all, or posting sweet notes to the person they just skewered in the back). One of those emailers was Megan - and we had a problem because she called my cell phone and left a message that consisted of screaming obscenities (that's when she quit posting to the group - I'm, by far, not the only one who had a problem with her). What happened is something just like this - she wrote me something (*unsolicited*) that was really, really nasty about someone else on the group and I called her out about it, when she started flaming me and called me a liar, I posted what she had written to me (which is what prompted her phone call). Yes, I've had flame wars in the past about things I've cared deeply about - people letting cats roam freely in areas of traffic or wild animals, things like that make me crazy and I will go off on somebody before taking a breath and hitting the delete key. But some people like the maneuvering and dishonesty - they get their kicks from playing people like puppets, saying one thing in public and then saying nasty things in email. My position is that if you have something to say, say it in public so the person you're defaming can have a chance to refute what you say. Talking behind someone's back is always suspect with me. As far as I'm concerned, if I say something about someone it will be the truth and you can post it anywhere you'd like because it *is* the truth and I'll stand by my words. Unfortunately, not everybody feels that way. Anyway, this note probably didn't change your mind, and that really makes me sad, but there's not a whole heck of a lot I can do about it. I will miss corresponding with you, but if you feel you can't trust me, at least let me thank you for being woman enough to let me know why instead of just ignoring my posts. -- Hugs, CatNipped See all my masters he http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ |
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"CatNipped" wrote: As to the people who wrote to you off-line, I could probably tell you who they are (they're all known for going behind people's back via email and saying nasty things while either not posting on the group at all, or posting sweet notes to the person they just skewered in the back). One of those emailers was Megan - and we had a problem because she called my cell phone and left a message that consisted of screaming obscenities (that's when she quit posting to the group - I'm, by far, not the only one who had a problem with her). What happened is something just like this - she wrote me something (*unsolicited*) that was really, really nasty about someone else on the group and I called her out about it, when she started flaming me and called me a liar, I posted what she had written to me (which is what prompted her phone call). Damn, is that psycho still ALIVE? I don't think I knew about this episode. Yes, I've had flame wars in the past about things I've cared deeply about - people letting cats roam freely in areas of traffic or wild animals, things like that make me crazy and I will go off on somebody before taking a breath and hitting the delete key. But some people like the maneuvering and dishonesty - they get their kicks from playing people like puppets, saying one thing in public and then saying nasty things in email. My position is that if you have something to say, say it in public so the person you're defaming can have a chance to refute what you say. Talking behind someone's back is always suspect with me. As far as I'm concerned, if I say something about someone it will be the truth and you can post it anywhere you'd like because it *is* the truth and I'll stand by my words. Unfortunately, not everybody feels that way. Pussies, every one. |
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On Dec 5, 12:44�pm, "CatNipped" wrote:
I tried to send this via email, but my note replying to you bounced, so I'm going to post it here (but I won't post the contents of your email without your permission). BTW, as I said in my post, I have no problem with letting the entire world see what I have to say to any one person - I don't go behind people's backs to say things about them that I'm afraid to say to their face. And also BTW, you may ask people here on the group (or on the anecdotes group) what they think about me - I won't respond to them with rancor under this particular flag of truce, but I can't say it doesn't bother me that people are willing to say nasty things about me via email but are too afraid to post it here. Anyway, here's my note copied and pasted from my "Sent" folder. �The only thing I added is in [()] and that only because after reading this I regretted how harsh I sounded about Phil, because I really do like him. But, in fairness, if I'm going to blast someone else about writing about people behind their backs, I should be woman enough to stand up and face the consequences it if I'm guilty of the same thing. �I regret it's harshness, but don't deny the truth of it. �My email to you..... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------�------------------------------------------------------------------------ I'm so sorry you feel that way. I truly am sitting here with tears in my eyes because I *had* counted you a friend. I sincerely apologized for going off on you that once and I thought you had forgiven me. As to the interplay with Phil - I tried to ignore what he was saying about you rather than coming to your defense because of Phil, not because of how I felt about you or whether or not I thought you were telling the truth (I do - that's why I posted video of kittens attacking children out of the blue, which, look at the video, they clearly do). As a long-time poster on rpch+b, I've seen what Phil is like when he gets a bug up his @$$ about something or someone. He will keep posting flames until his dying breath - all peppered with LOLs and sarcasm - and he gets nastier with each post. If you do or say something he doesn't like, and he comments about it, the best thing to do is ignore him because you'll *NEVER* get him to change his mind. *THAT'S* why I don't dispute him about *ANYTHING*, not just you, but anything - he is like a pit bull with a rope, he'll never let it go - he will never let an argument die and I just don't have the energy right now to argue with him. �[(All of that is not to say that I dislike him or ignore his advice - I have nothing but respect for him and his knowledge, but I won't ever get in a flame war with him. �And, ironically, his very determination and stubbornness is what makes him such a good advocate of cats, domestic and feral.)] I don't know, at this point, how I can convince you of this, but I *DO* care about you and your family as well as Gabby - my impression of you was of a bright, concerned mother and brand-new cat slave. I am so, so sorry that you've come to dislike me, because I really enjoyed corresponding with you.. Not to use it as an excuse, but this whole time of year is really difficult for me and maybe I wrote something bitchy? If so, I profusely apologize, I didn't mean to insult you. As to the people who wrote to you off-line, I could probably tell you who they are (they're all known for going behind people's back via email and saying nasty things while either not posting on the group at all, or posting sweet notes to the person they just skewered in the back). One of those emailers was Megan - and we had a problem because she called my cell phone and left a message that consisted of screaming obscenities (that's when she quit posting to the group - I'm, by far, not the only one who had a problem with her). What happened is something just like this - she wrote me something (*unsolicited*) that was really, really nasty about someone else on the group and I called her out about it, when she started flaming me and called me a liar, I posted what she had written to me (which is what prompted her phone call). Yes, I've had flame wars in the past about things I've cared deeply about - people letting cats roam freely in areas of traffic or wild animals, things like that make me crazy and I will go off on somebody before taking a breath and hitting the delete key. But some people like the maneuvering and dishonesty - they get their kicks from playing people like puppets, saying one thing in public and then saying nasty things in email. My position is that if you have something to say, say it in public so the person you're defaming can have a chance to refute what you say. Talking behind someone's back is always suspect with me. As far as I'm concerned, if I say something about someone it will be the truth and you can post it anywhere you'd like because it *is* the truth and I'll stand by my words. Unfortunately, not everybody feels that way. Anyway, this note probably didn't change your mind, and that really makes me sad, but there's not a whole heck of a lot I can do about it. I will miss corresponding with you, but if you feel you can't trust me, at least let me thank you for being woman enough to let me know why instead of just ignoring my posts. -- Hugs, CatNipped See all my masters hehttp://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ See....! This place is full of nothing but gosipers and LIARS. IBen Getiner |
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"cybercat" wrote in message
... "CatNipped" wrote: As to the people who wrote to you off-line, I could probably tell you who they are (they're all known for going behind people's back via email and saying nasty things while either not posting on the group at all, or posting sweet notes to the person they just skewered in the back). One of those emailers was Megan - and we had a problem because she called my cell phone and left a message that consisted of screaming obscenities (that's when she quit posting to the group - I'm, by far, not the only one who had a problem with her). What happened is something just like this - she wrote me something (*unsolicited*) that was really, really nasty about someone else on the group and I called her out about it, when she started flaming me and called me a liar, I posted what she had written to me (which is what prompted her phone call). Damn, is that psycho still ALIVE? I don't think I knew about this episode. I know she's still lurking here - lingering like a bad smell - because every once is a while a newbie will post "Megan emailed me advice" (but only once, because she probably immediately tells them to cool it and not mention her on the group because then we'll tell them what a real nut-case she is). If she gets "outed" by the group, then the poor little newbies will discover she's not the all-kinowing, all-seeing cat guru she portrays herself to be. I wonder if she tells them she has 25+ cats living with her in a one-bedroom apartment? Can we say "cat collector" children? Yes, I've had flame wars in the past about things I've cared deeply about - people letting cats roam freely in areas of traffic or wild animals, things like that make me crazy and I will go off on somebody before taking a breath and hitting the delete key. But some people like the maneuvering and dishonesty - they get their kicks from playing people like puppets, saying one thing in public and then saying nasty things in email. My position is that if you have something to say, say it in public so the person you're defaming can have a chance to refute what you say. Talking behind someone's back is always suspect with me. As far as I'm concerned, if I say something about someone it will be the truth and you can post it anywhere you'd like because it *is* the truth and I'll stand by my words. Unfortunately, not everybody feels that way. Pussies, every one. Nope, not pussies, pussies are brave and fierce predators - I'd rather call them chicksh*t back-stabbers. Gawd knows I've made *PLENTY* of mistakes in my life, I've written things I've instantly regretted, but *NOBODY* can say I didn't do it in the light of day and stand up and take my knocks for it (*AND* had the courage and grace to apologize when I was wrong). /rant Hugs, CatNipped |
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OK, I got the message, loud and clear. I'm sorry about the outcome, but
c'est la vie! Hugs, CatNipped |
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"CatNipped" wrote in message ... OK, I got the message, loud and clear. I'm sorry about the outcome, but c'est la vie! Oscar Wilde once said (paraphrased) "I never pay attention to what tedious people say and I never interfere with what charming people do." Leave the petty to their ugly little devices. |
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"cybercat" wrote in message
... "CatNipped" wrote in message ... OK, I got the message, loud and clear. I'm sorry about the outcome, but c'est la vie! Oscar Wilde once said (paraphrased) "I never pay attention to what tedious people say and I never interfere with what charming people do." Leave the petty to their ugly little devices. Fer shure - UseNET *never* "gets" to me because I *have* a life! ; But I do sometimes miss our flame wars - you were the only other person who could insult me and at the same time make me laugh! Should I start another one? Hmmmm... how about this: Cats need to be left outside, even in high traffic areas and places where large predators and psycho cat torturers live. It doesn't matter if they die a horrible death, they need to be fweeeeeee! Hugs, CatNipped |
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"CatNipped" wrote in message ... "cybercat" wrote in message ... "CatNipped" wrote in message ... OK, I got the message, loud and clear. I'm sorry about the outcome, but c'est la vie! Oscar Wilde once said (paraphrased) "I never pay attention to what tedious people say and I never interfere with what charming people do." Leave the petty to their ugly little devices. Fer shure - UseNET *never* "gets" to me because I *have* a life! ; But I do sometimes miss our flame wars - you were the only other person who could insult me and at the same time make me laugh! Should I start another one? Hmmmm... how about this: Cats need to be left outside, even in high traffic areas and places where large predators and psycho cat torturers live. It doesn't matter if they die a horrible death, they need to be fweeeeeee! haha, what was it Chevy Chase used to say to Jane Curtin? "Catnipped, you Ignorant Slut ... the only relationship you should ever have with a cat is to take him to someone with more sense than you will ever have." Etc. |
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"cybercat" wrote in message
... "CatNipped" wrote in message ... "cybercat" wrote in message ... "CatNipped" wrote in message ... OK, I got the message, loud and clear. I'm sorry about the outcome, but c'est la vie! Oscar Wilde once said (paraphrased) "I never pay attention to what tedious people say and I never interfere with what charming people do." Leave the petty to their ugly little devices. Fer shure - UseNET *never* "gets" to me because I *have* a life! ; But I do sometimes miss our flame wars - you were the only other person who could insult me and at the same time make me laugh! Should I start another one? Hmmmm... how about this: Cats need to be left outside, even in high traffic areas and places where large predators and psycho cat torturers live. It doesn't matter if they die a horrible death, they need to be fweeeeeee! haha, what was it Chevy Chase used to say to Jane Curtin? "Catnipped, you Ignorant Slut ... the only relationship you should ever have with a cat is to take him to someone with more sense than you will ever have." Etc. Cybercat, you stupid c*nt, don't you know indoor only cats are extremely depressed, destructive, and fat!? How dare you take a beautiful wild animal and cage him for your own selfish entertainment! ; Hugs, CatNipped |
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"CatNipped" wrote in message ... "cybercat" wrote in message ... "CatNipped" wrote in message ... "cybercat" wrote in message ... "CatNipped" wrote in message ... OK, I got the message, loud and clear. I'm sorry about the outcome, but c'est la vie! Oscar Wilde once said (paraphrased) "I never pay attention to what tedious people say and I never interfere with what charming people do." Leave the petty to their ugly little devices. Fer shure - UseNET *never* "gets" to me because I *have* a life! ; But I do sometimes miss our flame wars - you were the only other person who could insult me and at the same time make me laugh! Should I start another one? Hmmmm... how about this: Cats need to be left outside, even in high traffic areas and places where large predators and psycho cat torturers live. It doesn't matter if they die a horrible death, they need to be fweeeeeee! haha, what was it Chevy Chase used to say to Jane Curtin? "Catnipped, you Ignorant Slut ... the only relationship you should ever have with a cat is to take him to someone with more sense than you will ever have." Etc. Cybercat, you stupid c*nt, don't you know indoor only cats are extremely depressed, destructive, and fat!? How dare you take a beautiful wild animal and cage him for your own selfish entertainment! ; Hugs, CatNipped I still say the "Hugs" cancels out the flames. |
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