Shelters

"Brad" wrote in message
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On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 02:02:44 GMT, "Philip"
wrote:


... twice ... the second sneeze landing a small glob of viscous snot
alongside my forehead. NOT FUNNY.



For once I agree with you Philip .....it would have been funny however
if it hit you in the face.......lol.....lol........lol......lol.....I
know its not kosher to laugh at your own jokes but I just cant
help...lol.....lol.....lol......it.......lol.....l ol.......

Your friend

Brad

Brad: From here I can see the venon dripping off your fangs in the
moonlight.

"KellyH" wrote in message
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"Philip" wrote
I just posted to Cheryl, you might take a look at that post. Conan is
not presenting a "minor problem" here. I bought a can of KMR this evening
and syringed 30-40cc down his throat. How much and how often do you feed
this stuff to an adult? He's also starting to smell a bit like urine all
over but is hind area is dry and he is not leaking where he sleeps. This
is new.

I have no idea about the urine smell.

It's a musty smell ... rather dog-like but reminicent of cat urine.

If he is eating absoultely nothing, I would give him KMR at least several
times a day.
I'm not a vet, and all I have to go on are your posts.

Don't "go" on my posts. The liquid will short out your computer screen.

To me, what you posted sounded minor, except for the not eating. Is he
still active?

Slept ALL day, very similar Monday and Sunday.

Using the litterbox?

Yes but ... little going in, little coming out.

If he is lethargic and seems generally unwell, I would take him back to
the vet.

I had audience on the phone with the same vet who saw him Saturday. Now I
have to pop an Amoxicillin 100 mg down Conan, twice a day. So now it's KMR
(all I can get him to injest via syringe under protest) 2-3 times a day, two
antibiotic tablets, and crushed up 500 mg Lysine tablet in water, syringed
in the mouth. I'll do this for a week but by then, there must be an
improvement trend in evidence.

I don't want to take him back partly because this IS a high kill shelter.
But through no fault of the cat's, this situation is not one I can live
with indefinitely. As I said to Cheryl, Conan was active and alert until
about 24 hrs after arriving home. The shelter DID give him a shot or two
along with chipping him just before releasing him to me. Do you know of
any vaccination that would bring about a URI or a condition mimicking a
URI? *IF* one of the vaccinations he got could bring on these symptoms,
then there is NO WAY I will accept another animal from this shelter.

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The old HESKA vaccine (a brand of FVRCP vacc) we used up until several
months ago would bring on URI-like symptoms.

OH REALLY!!!! I will ask specifically that question when I call the
shelter tomorrow.

Also, if he had a URI brewing, the stress of coming into a new home and
the vaccines, and probably a recent neuter could have caused the URI to
surface.

Stress, could be part of the picture. He came to the shelter already
altered. The vaccines are on my radar. He was alert and active until after
the first 24 hrs home. They did innoculate him with one or two things, plus
the ID chip JUST before the turned him over to me.

I do hope that you will take him back to the vet instead of back to the
shelter.

--
-Kelly

I asked the vet speak frankly. She said that Conan's condition on Saturday
had the appearance of a URI .... but she was not specific about it being a
herpes or some other virus AND NOTHING was mentioned about this apparent URI
being caused by a vaccine administered by the shelter. The vaccination
connection is an idea of my own.

Thank you, Kelly

"Candace" wrote in message
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Philip wrote:

He has not eaten anything for 48 hrs.

He needs to eat badly. Didn't you mention cyproheptadine yesterday? I
thought you said it worked or is that incorrect?

The cyproheptadine worked with the tuna fish and a bit of people tuna mixed
with cat food formula tuna fish. After that ... zip.

If it did not work, call your vet and ask about one of the
benzodiazipines (valium family). Apparently, if it is given as an
injection, the cat will generally want to eat within a couple of
minutes.

Well Hells Bells, I'm sure I could find some pot smoking teenager to come
over and blow smoke at Conan to give him the munchies! LOL

I hope he will eat soon. I am sure the nutrical is helping him but he
needs more.

Candace

Nutri-Cal has been replaced by KMR 'cuz KMR fills a small syringe much
quicker. Maybe I could mix the two?

I wrote:

The old HESKA vaccine (a brand of FVRCP vacc) we used up until several
months ago would bring on URI-like symptoms.

You wrote:

OH REALLY!!!! I will ask specifically that question when I call the
shelter tomorrow.

What we would see from the HESKA vacc is sneezing with clear discharge. No
loss of appetite or lethargy.
Another feeding trick: Try microwaving some canned cat food. It makes it
smell more and he might start eating.

--
-Kelly

KellyH wrote:
Another feeding trick: Try microwaving some canned cat food. It makes it
smell more and he might start eating.

If you do microwave the food, be very careful do only do it for a few
seconds at a time. Microwaving can heat the food unevenly and there
could be some really hot spots. I do agree with Kelly, microwaving for
a few seconds can make the food more aromatic and more enticing to the
cat.

Lauren
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe

Phil P. wrote:
"bigbadbarry" wrote in message
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What is going on with all I'm hearing about shelters.
Maybe it's like a hospitol the germs end up drug resistant?
Sick cats coming out of them, and so on.

What you trying to, you stupid ****ing moron-perpetuate fear and panic ab=
out
shelters? Your kind of stupidity usually results in the death of more
animals because people will be afraid to adopt from shelters.

I sure hope it doesn't discouarge people from adopting from shelters.
The shelter I adopted my cats from was one of the cleanest shelters
I've ever seen. I adopted 2 cats who had no diseases and were not sick
when I adopted them.

Lauren
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/=ADalbum/56955940rWhxAe

PawsForThought wrote:

I sure hope it doesn't discouarge people from adopting from shelters.
The shelter I adopted my cats from was one of the cleanest shelters
I've ever seen. I adopted 2 cats who had no diseases and were not sick
when I adopted them.

The more people are educated about shelters, then all the better.
I think it is healthy to pose questions; no matter the subj.

I am happy about your healthy cats. Wether in a shelter or a hospitol
there is no excuse for general filth, and other practices that can lend
to disease.

I'm sure all shelters are not the same, no more than all hospitols are
the same.

"KellyH" wrote in message
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I wrote:

The old HESKA vaccine (a brand of FVRCP vacc) we used up until several
months ago would bring on URI-like symptoms.

You wrote:

OH REALLY!!!! I will ask specifically that question when I call the
shelter tomorrow.

What we would see from the HESKA vacc is sneezing with clear discharge.
No loss of appetite or lethargy.
Another feeding trick: Try microwaving some canned cat food. It makes it
smell more and he might start eating.

--
-Kelly

Got the first symptom set, not the second set. Warming the cat's food
hasn't sparked his interest. The aroma did draw comment from the wife the
first time she smelled it ... not knowing what I was up to. :^)

"PawsForThought" wrote in message
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KellyH wrote:
Another feeding trick: Try microwaving some canned cat food. It makes it
smell more and he might start eating.

If you do microwave the food, be very careful do only do it for a few
seconds at a time. Microwaving can heat the food unevenly and there
could be some really hot spots. I do agree with Kelly, microwaving for
a few seconds can make the food more aromatic and more enticing to the
cat.

Lauren
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe

The hot spots in microwaved foods is largely the result of using a microwave
oven that has no turntable built in. For a half can of food placed on a
microwaveable dish, it took about 5 seconds (1100 watt oven). Conan
sniffed ... walked away. So, he got nearly 40ccs of KMR syringed to him.

"PawsForThought" wrote in message
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Phil P. wrote:
"bigbadbarry" wrote in message
...
What is going on with all I'm hearing about shelters.
Maybe it's like a hospitol the germs end up drug resistant?
Sick cats coming out of them, and so on.

What you trying to, you stupid ****ing moron-perpetuate fear and panic
about
shelters? Your kind of stupidity usually results in the death of more
animals because people will be afraid to adopt from shelters.

I sure hope it doesn't discouarge people from adopting from shelters.
The shelter I adopted my cats from was one of the cleanest shelters
I've ever seen. I adopted 2 cats who had no diseases and were not sick
when I adopted them.

Lauren
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/*album/56955940rWhxAe

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