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"Electric Nachos" wrote in message ... Gee. Just think. NONE of this valuable information would have been known if the animal mutilators (a.k.a. spay-ers and neuter-ers) in this group got a hold of them first. I can't stand to go into an animal control building where they house unwanted cats and kittens until they find homes for them, or euthanize them. The odds of the latter fate are high enough,even with conscientious cat-owners (you call us "animal mutilators") neutering and spaying their animals. Imagine the numbers of little tragedies if no one did. |
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 07:52:49 -0400, "Bobcat"
wrote: "Electric Nachos" wrote in message ... Gee. Just think. NONE of this valuable information would have been known if the animal mutilators (a.k.a. spay-ers and neuter-ers) in this group got a hold of them first. I can't stand to go into an animal control building where they house unwanted cats and kittens until they find homes for them, or euthanize them. The odds of the latter fate are high enough,even with conscientious cat-owners (you call us "animal mutilators") neutering and spaying their animals. Imagine the numbers of little tragedies if no one did. One queen and one tom - live 15 years and have one litter of four every year; each litter has two females. Assume all kittens survive and live to age 15. At the end of the first year, there are three females. At then end of the second year there are nine females (three adult females and six female kittens - plus the males equals 18 cats where there were two); the end of the third year brings the total females to 27 and the total cats to 54. When the original female dies after her fifteenth litter, she leaves 14 348 906 female descendents - 28 697 812 counting the males. In order to avoid obvious hypocracy, anyone advocating that kind of population explosion, which is what someone objecting to neutering is, in effect, advocating, would have to provide homes for all those cats. I'm not sure Bill Gates could afford to keep a female cat and meet his responsibility for all the offspring for any length of time. T.E.D. ) SPAM filter: Messages to this address *must* contain "T.E.D." somewhere in the body or they will be automatically rejected. |
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 07:52:49 -0400, "Bobcat"
wrote: "Electric Nachos" wrote in message ... Gee. Just think. NONE of this valuable information would have been known if the animal mutilators (a.k.a. spay-ers and neuter-ers) in this group got a hold of them first. I can't stand to go into an animal control building where they house unwanted cats and kittens until they find homes for them, or euthanize them. The odds of the latter fate are high enough,even with conscientious cat-owners (you call us "animal mutilators") neutering and spaying their animals. Imagine the numbers of little tragedies if no one did. One queen and one tom - live 15 years and have one litter of four every year; each litter has two females. Assume all kittens survive and live to age 15. At the end of the first year, there are three females. At then end of the second year there are nine females (three adult females and six female kittens - plus the males equals 18 cats where there were two); the end of the third year brings the total females to 27 and the total cats to 54. When the original female dies after her fifteenth litter, she leaves 14 348 906 female descendents - 28 697 812 counting the males. In order to avoid obvious hypocracy, anyone advocating that kind of population explosion, which is what someone objecting to neutering is, in effect, advocating, would have to provide homes for all those cats. I'm not sure Bill Gates could afford to keep a female cat and meet his responsibility for all the offspring for any length of time. T.E.D. ) SPAM filter: Messages to this address *must* contain "T.E.D." somewhere in the body or they will be automatically rejected. |
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dgk wrote in message . ..
I suppose I could check Google but I'm here so... Someone at the cat show said that all tri-color (or tri-colour for my British friends) cats are female, or, if male, are sterile. Seems odd but he was showing his purebreds so maybe he knew what he was talking about. Does white count as a color? Tortishells are almost always female. Male tortishells are almost always sterile. There almost never is an always with animals. They'll go out of their way to prove you wrong. Male tortishells are almost always sterile because they need to have two X chromosomes to provide the color. A male cat that is XXY is most often going to be sterile. There are exceptions though. A male cat can have cells that are XXY and have cells that are normal XY. These males can be tortishells and not be sterile because they can make some normal sperm. So it is possible, but not probable to have a non-sterile tortishell. |
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dgk wrote in message . ..
I suppose I could check Google but I'm here so... Someone at the cat show said that all tri-color (or tri-colour for my British friends) cats are female, or, if male, are sterile. Seems odd but he was showing his purebreds so maybe he knew what he was talking about. Does white count as a color? Tortishells are almost always female. Male tortishells are almost always sterile. There almost never is an always with animals. They'll go out of their way to prove you wrong. Male tortishells are almost always sterile because they need to have two X chromosomes to provide the color. A male cat that is XXY is most often going to be sterile. There are exceptions though. A male cat can have cells that are XXY and have cells that are normal XY. These males can be tortishells and not be sterile because they can make some normal sperm. So it is possible, but not probable to have a non-sterile tortishell. |
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enlightened us with... "Electric Nachos" wrote in message ... Gee. Just think. NONE of this valuable information would have been known if the animal mutilators (a.k.a. spay-ers and neuter-ers) in this group got a hold of them first. I can't stand to go into an animal control building where they house unwanted cats and kittens until they find homes for them, or euthanize them. The odds of the latter fate are high enough,even with conscientious cat-owners (you call us "animal mutilators") neutering and spaying their animals. Imagine the numbers of little tragedies if no one did. Troll alert: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...6btnG%3DSearch Have fun. -- -- ~kaeli~ Never argue with an idiot! People may not be able to tell you apart. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace |
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enlightened us with... Gee. Just think. NONE of this valuable information would have been known if the animal mutilators (a.k.a. spay-ers and neuter-ers) in this group got a hold of them first. You're not the brightest bulb in the box, are you? -- -- ~kaeli~ Never argue with an idiot! People may not be able to tell you apart. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace |
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In article ,
enlightened us with... Gee. Just think. NONE of this valuable information would have been known if the animal mutilators (a.k.a. spay-ers and neuter-ers) in this group got a hold of them first. You're not the brightest bulb in the box, are you? -- -- ~kaeli~ Never argue with an idiot! People may not be able to tell you apart. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace |
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Interesting topic. I do think white counts as a color. Of course that is a
pretty bold statement to say that tri-color males are steral. There are plenty of tri-colored cats out there that are male and unless you neuter them they can father kittens. Of course you didn't mention what breed you are talking about. I entered my cat Icarus in the HHP category for a CFA cat show this Saturday. When the clerk wanted to know his color, I emailed her a picture of him. He has silver/black tabby markings but when I received my entry she listed him as a brown classic tabby color. I guess this how a lot of tabby colors get classified. -- Cat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "dgk" wrote in message ... I suppose I could check Google but I'm here so... Someone at the cat show said that all tri-color (or tri-colour for my British friends) cats are female, or, if male, are sterile. Seems odd but he was showing his purebreds so maybe he knew what he was talking about. Does white count as a color? |
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