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"Karen" wrote in message ... "icarus" wrote in message ... "Laura R." wrote in message .. . circa Thu, 24 Jun 2004 02:07:59 +0100, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, icarus ) said, For goodness sake, ... hit her. not hard but enough so she knows its wrong. cats are amoral, avaricious and aggessive. you have to train them. gently, firmly but don't hurt them tho. It's completely unnecessary to strike a cat to train it. Laura so once you have explained to the cat that its wrong and discussed the morality of hurting others.... what do you do then ? I'm not talking about hurting the cat, simply a clear indication of displeasure. My female cat hits my male cat with her claws in to indicate displeasure so why shouldn't you ? I have always found "time out" to be totally effective with my cats. Never HIT a cat. It will only make it fear you. I agree it works well. My animals are not beaten, the problem is due to my using a word that has been interpreted as something really violent. Perhaps flick or tap would be a better word. My animals don't fear me or anyone. I have adopted a lot of rescue animals over the years that have been abused and I always gain their trust so I must be doing something right. I have adopted two feral cats(I have one now), a Doberman, a rottie, a boxer, two bullmastiffs, a ridgeback and several horses. I inspect animals for a charity to see if they can be re-homed and have taken several that couldn't be re-homed elsewhere and would have been euthanased otherwise. As I say they aren't afraid of me. |
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"Laura R." wrote in message .. . circa Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:44:24 +0100, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, icarus ) said, hit a 2 month old kitten? are you crazy? i shove her away with my hand occasionally, but i'm certainly not hitting a kitten, or a cat for that matter. that's how they play, except theya re used to things that have fur. try explaining to a kitten that we don't have fur. -L I didn't notice your original posting mentioning the cats age either Perhaps because she has been posting about this kitten for weeks and figured that human beings are capable of using long-term memory and remembering that. funny thing, I don't read every posting. I have noticed one thing tho and that's how sanctimonious and patronising you are, I think I'll give your postings a miss, thanks. |
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"Laura R." wrote in message .. . circa Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:44:24 +0100, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, icarus ) said, hit a 2 month old kitten? are you crazy? i shove her away with my hand occasionally, but i'm certainly not hitting a kitten, or a cat for that matter. that's how they play, except theya re used to things that have fur. try explaining to a kitten that we don't have fur. -L I didn't notice your original posting mentioning the cats age either Perhaps because she has been posting about this kitten for weeks and figured that human beings are capable of using long-term memory and remembering that. funny thing, I don't read every posting. I have noticed one thing tho and that's how sanctimonious and patronising you are, I think I'll give your postings a miss, thanks. |
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"Laura R." wrote in message .. . circa Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:44:24 +0100, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, icarus ) said, hit a 2 month old kitten? are you crazy? i shove her away with my hand occasionally, but i'm certainly not hitting a kitten, or a cat for that matter. that's how they play, except theya re used to things that have fur. try explaining to a kitten that we don't have fur. -L I didn't notice your original posting mentioning the cats age either Perhaps because she has been posting about this kitten for weeks and figured that human beings are capable of using long-term memory and remembering that. funny thing, I don't read every posting. I have noticed one thing tho and that's how sanctimonious and patronising you are, I think I'll give your postings a miss, thanks. |
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I see you try the same approach with people too.
I have cats and train dogs to obedience standards. I have exhibited and been to shows all over the country. I am not talking about hurting the animal..... just watch how your cat interacts with others, they commonly slap others to show their displeasure without hurting the other cat or getting into a fight. Its natural for them and well understood. I repeat, I am not talking about hurting the animal, not hard, not violently but just a tap to show displeasure. I also point out that when I made the comment the age of the cat hadn't been mentioned. ohhhh, by the way.. one of my cats was a full feral and is now a happy home loving pussy so I must really abuse them, mustn't I ? Coming in late on this thread but...I vehemently disagree. Hands are for petting, not hitting. I don't think the kitten should ever associate your hands in that way. I always put the kitten right in my face, say NO, hiss at them, and put them down, on the floor with no attention at all. It works. Sherry |
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I see you try the same approach with people too.
I have cats and train dogs to obedience standards. I have exhibited and been to shows all over the country. I am not talking about hurting the animal..... just watch how your cat interacts with others, they commonly slap others to show their displeasure without hurting the other cat or getting into a fight. Its natural for them and well understood. I repeat, I am not talking about hurting the animal, not hard, not violently but just a tap to show displeasure. I also point out that when I made the comment the age of the cat hadn't been mentioned. ohhhh, by the way.. one of my cats was a full feral and is now a happy home loving pussy so I must really abuse them, mustn't I ? Coming in late on this thread but...I vehemently disagree. Hands are for petting, not hitting. I don't think the kitten should ever associate your hands in that way. I always put the kitten right in my face, say NO, hiss at them, and put them down, on the floor with no attention at all. It works. Sherry |
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I see you try the same approach with people too.
I have cats and train dogs to obedience standards. I have exhibited and been to shows all over the country. I am not talking about hurting the animal..... just watch how your cat interacts with others, they commonly slap others to show their displeasure without hurting the other cat or getting into a fight. Its natural for them and well understood. I repeat, I am not talking about hurting the animal, not hard, not violently but just a tap to show displeasure. I also point out that when I made the comment the age of the cat hadn't been mentioned. ohhhh, by the way.. one of my cats was a full feral and is now a happy home loving pussy so I must really abuse them, mustn't I ? Coming in late on this thread but...I vehemently disagree. Hands are for petting, not hitting. I don't think the kitten should ever associate your hands in that way. I always put the kitten right in my face, say NO, hiss at them, and put them down, on the floor with no attention at all. It works. Sherry |
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From: Laura R.
icarus ) said, For goodness sake, ... hit her. not hard but enough so she knows its wrong. cats are amoral, avaricious and aggessive. you have to train them. gently, firmly but don't hurt them tho. It's completely unnecessary to strike a cat to train it. Laura I completely agree! All hitting a cat does is cause it to fear the person, and teaches nothing. A cat should NEVER be hit!!! Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm |
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From: Laura R.
icarus ) said, For goodness sake, ... hit her. not hard but enough so she knows its wrong. cats are amoral, avaricious and aggessive. you have to train them. gently, firmly but don't hurt them tho. It's completely unnecessary to strike a cat to train it. Laura I completely agree! All hitting a cat does is cause it to fear the person, and teaches nothing. A cat should NEVER be hit!!! Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm |
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