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"Phil P." wrote in message ...
"-L. :" wrote in message om... "Phil P." wrote in message ... snippy I have no tolerance for vets who simply kill cats as part of a day's work. Unfortunately, that's how a lot of vets and techs approach it - especially if the guardian refuses to be present. One of the most upsetting things I witnessed was a tech euthing an 8-week old FIP kitten all the while laughing and joking with another tech. It was just so damn disrespectful. I silently wept. In my younger days when I volunteered in a municipal shelter, a vet tech used an amphetamine to euthanize a cat - he thought it was funny to see the cat bouncing off the walls of the cage until his heart exploded. Since the tech thought it was so funny, I thought he would enjoy bouncing off the walls, too, for about 20 minutes. I was wrong... he didn't enjoy it. I don't think the tech will ever forget that cat. How horrible. This kind of thing disturbs me but it becomes all too common when people work in those situations for a long time. Some of the stuff I have seen (research labs, primarily) just literally makes me sick. -L. |
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"Phil P." wrote in message ...
"-L. :" wrote in message om... "Phil P." wrote in message ... snippy I have no tolerance for vets who simply kill cats as part of a day's work. Unfortunately, that's how a lot of vets and techs approach it - especially if the guardian refuses to be present. One of the most upsetting things I witnessed was a tech euthing an 8-week old FIP kitten all the while laughing and joking with another tech. It was just so damn disrespectful. I silently wept. In my younger days when I volunteered in a municipal shelter, a vet tech used an amphetamine to euthanize a cat - he thought it was funny to see the cat bouncing off the walls of the cage until his heart exploded. Since the tech thought it was so funny, I thought he would enjoy bouncing off the walls, too, for about 20 minutes. I was wrong... he didn't enjoy it. I don't think the tech will ever forget that cat. How horrible. This kind of thing disturbs me but it becomes all too common when people work in those situations for a long time. Some of the stuff I have seen (research labs, primarily) just literally makes me sick. -L. |
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It is illegal to euthanize humans, so the choice of 'putting them to
sleep' vs morphine never comes up. But, having worked as a nurses aid I have seen humans essentially overdosed on morphine to death, and I've also seen humans 'maintained' on morphine while they more slowly died of dehydration or starvation. Or, kept on morphine while they die of whatever is ailing them. (These people did not seem to have a bad or painful death. Such humans dont get their morphine orally nor even by shots, but get the drug administered via IV. But, if you're gonna give an animal a 'shot', it doesnt make sense to give morphine when you can simply give them the normal (?) shot that puts them to sleep. I had a cat whom I took to the vet last year thinking it might be for euthanasia; he was very old and had been very sick for a very long time, and seemed to be nearing the end. However, on the way to the vet, somehow he KNEW, and he began looking me at imploringly, pleadingly, and I couldnt do it. He ended up living another 4 weeks, mostly spent peacefully sleeping; he didnt seem to be suffering or in pain, and in the end, he just went to sleep one night and didnt wake up. I was very glad I left it up to him as to when to go...... But, now I have another very sick cat, this one, alas only about 3 years old, and in severe renal failure. [???????????????????????????????????????] I would prefer for her to guide me, but, if I have to make the decision, if she is suffering or in pain, if she has to be put down, I'm thinking I want it to be done with a captive bolt pistol. I believe, and I have also heard a vet say, that this is the quickest, least traumatic way of doing it. It is instantaneous and the animal doesnt see it coming. I've heard that it can be difficult to find a "pet" vet who has a captive bolt pistol tho. Has anybody ever had a pet put down this way? |
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It is illegal to euthanize humans, so the choice of 'putting them to
sleep' vs morphine never comes up. But, having worked as a nurses aid I have seen humans essentially overdosed on morphine to death, and I've also seen humans 'maintained' on morphine while they more slowly died of dehydration or starvation. Or, kept on morphine while they die of whatever is ailing them. (These people did not seem to have a bad or painful death. Such humans dont get their morphine orally nor even by shots, but get the drug administered via IV. But, if you're gonna give an animal a 'shot', it doesnt make sense to give morphine when you can simply give them the normal (?) shot that puts them to sleep. I had a cat whom I took to the vet last year thinking it might be for euthanasia; he was very old and had been very sick for a very long time, and seemed to be nearing the end. However, on the way to the vet, somehow he KNEW, and he began looking me at imploringly, pleadingly, and I couldnt do it. He ended up living another 4 weeks, mostly spent peacefully sleeping; he didnt seem to be suffering or in pain, and in the end, he just went to sleep one night and didnt wake up. I was very glad I left it up to him as to when to go...... But, now I have another very sick cat, this one, alas only about 3 years old, and in severe renal failure. [???????????????????????????????????????] I would prefer for her to guide me, but, if I have to make the decision, if she is suffering or in pain, if she has to be put down, I'm thinking I want it to be done with a captive bolt pistol. I believe, and I have also heard a vet say, that this is the quickest, least traumatic way of doing it. It is instantaneous and the animal doesnt see it coming. I've heard that it can be difficult to find a "pet" vet who has a captive bolt pistol tho. Has anybody ever had a pet put down this way? |
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What's a captive bolt pistol?
Its a gun that has a steel bolt, powered by compressed air or a blank cartridge. The bolt is driven into the animal's brain, instantly killing it. Livestock are commonly killed by this manner, altho mad cow disease may call for other means of euthanasia due to the possibility of brain tissue emboli. The steel bolt does not fire 'out' of the gun, hence the name "captive bolt" pistol. After being fired, the bolt is then retracted back into the pistol. A good description can be found on Temple Grandin's site: www.grandin.com/humane/cap.bolt.tips.html www.grandin.com/humane/captive.bolt.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------= - Lethal dose of morphine for a cat Group: rec.pets.cats.health+behav Date: Wed, Sep 29, 2004, 11:18pm (EDT-3) From: (Marek=A0Williams) On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 19:40:29 -0400, (Luramao) dijo: also heard a vet say, that this is the quickest, least traumatic way of doing it. =A0 It is instantaneous and the animal doesnt see it coming. I've heard that it can be difficult to find a "pet" vet who has a captive bolt pistol tho. =A0 Has anybody ever had a pet put down this way? What is a captive bolt pistol? -- Bogus e-mail address, but I read this newsgroup regularly, so reply here. |
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What's a captive bolt pistol?
Its a gun that has a steel bolt, powered by compressed air or a blank cartridge. The bolt is driven into the animal's brain, instantly killing it. Livestock are commonly killed by this manner, altho mad cow disease may call for other means of euthanasia due to the possibility of brain tissue emboli. The steel bolt does not fire 'out' of the gun, hence the name "captive bolt" pistol. After being fired, the bolt is then retracted back into the pistol. A good description can be found on Temple Grandin's site: www.grandin.com/humane/cap.bolt.tips.html www.grandin.com/humane/captive.bolt.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------= - Lethal dose of morphine for a cat Group: rec.pets.cats.health+behav Date: Wed, Sep 29, 2004, 11:18pm (EDT-3) From: (Marek=A0Williams) On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 19:40:29 -0400, (Luramao) dijo: also heard a vet say, that this is the quickest, least traumatic way of doing it. =A0 It is instantaneous and the animal doesnt see it coming. I've heard that it can be difficult to find a "pet" vet who has a captive bolt pistol tho. =A0 Has anybody ever had a pet put down this way? What is a captive bolt pistol? -- Bogus e-mail address, but I read this newsgroup regularly, so reply here. |
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"Luramao" wrote in message ... What's a captive bolt pistol? Its a gun that has a steel bolt, powered by compressed air or a blank cartridge. The bolt is driven into the animal's brain, instantly killing it. Livestock are commonly killed by this manner, altho mad cow disease may call for other means of euthanasia due to the possibility of brain tissue emboli. The steel bolt does not fire 'out' of the gun, hence the name "captive bolt" pistol. After being fired, the bolt is then retracted back into the pistol. A good description can be found on Temple Grandin's site: www.grandin.com/humane/cap.bolt.tips.html www.grandin.com/humane/captive.bolt.html Oh yes, I imagine we will all be seeking this out as a means to euthanize our dying cats. That's disgusting. |
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"Luramao" wrote in message ... What's a captive bolt pistol? Its a gun that has a steel bolt, powered by compressed air or a blank cartridge. The bolt is driven into the animal's brain, instantly killing it. Livestock are commonly killed by this manner, altho mad cow disease may call for other means of euthanasia due to the possibility of brain tissue emboli. The steel bolt does not fire 'out' of the gun, hence the name "captive bolt" pistol. After being fired, the bolt is then retracted back into the pistol. A good description can be found on Temple Grandin's site: www.grandin.com/humane/cap.bolt.tips.html www.grandin.com/humane/captive.bolt.html Oh yes, I imagine we will all be seeking this out as a means to euthanize our dying cats. That's disgusting. |
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