eosinophilic granuloma complex, heat and me venting

From: Kevin Krell

Ours eats both canned & dry food. So we use a canned food with gravy,
and mix in the contents of the capsule (yes, emptied out), along with
a probiotic. The problem was originally pretty bad when first
observed, with the swollen lip interfering with the teeth, etc., so he
had a cortisone shot only that first time. While we have some
prednisone tablets in case of an outbreak outside convenient vet
hours, we have never had to resort to them. If for some reason he
focusses on the dry food for a while, and is not eating the
supplemented canned food, we'll see a little bit of swollen lip and/or
chin. However, it is never severe, and is always controlled when he
gets his L-Lysine in.

That's great to hear, Kevin. I know I've heard about other cats being helped
by Lysine too. I just heard that it tasted pretty bitter so wondered how a cat
would tolerate it.

Lauren
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Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: Kevin Krell

Ours eats both canned & dry food. So we use a canned food with gravy,
and mix in the contents of the capsule (yes, emptied out), along with
a probiotic. The problem was originally pretty bad when first
observed, with the swollen lip interfering with the teeth, etc., so he
had a cortisone shot only that first time. While we have some
prednisone tablets in case of an outbreak outside convenient vet
hours, we have never had to resort to them. If for some reason he
focusses on the dry food for a while, and is not eating the
supplemented canned food, we'll see a little bit of swollen lip and/or
chin. However, it is never severe, and is always controlled when he
gets his L-Lysine in.

That's great to hear, Kevin. I know I've heard about other cats being helped
by Lysine too. I just heard that it tasted pretty bitter so wondered how a cat
would tolerate it.

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: "Cheryl"

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PawsForThought composed with style:
From: "Cheryl"

I've had nothing but health troubles for my cats since I bought
my current house. Before I bought the house I never knew the
things I know now and my cats are on decent diets but they are
still having problems I've never seen before. I got a fish over
the weekend (a Betta) and after 3 days it died. I used the
water treatment that neutralizes chlorine. But it still died.
Granted, it could have already been sick before I got it but I
can't help but wonder if my tap water is to blame for all of my
cats problems.

Sorry to hear about your fish, Cheryl
Have you ever had your house tested for black mold?

I've been thinking about that. I started asking about it in a post in
another thread earlier but I don't know what to ask for, who to ask,
or what to look out for when having an inspector in. As I posted, I
had termites and I do believe termites and moisture go hand in hand.
I monitor the RH level in my downstairs and run a dehumidifier. I
should go ask about this in the alt dot home dot repair group. I am
highly allergic to mold, though, and I don't feel any ill effects
myself in the house.

There's a home repair group? I need to check that out
I guess if you did have black mold, as you say your own allergies would be
acting up. Although maybe it's not that severe, but cats, being much smaller
than us, might be affected by it? I don't know. It's interesting though that
the cats' problems didn't start until you moved into the new house. No new
clearning products or cat litter?

________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: "Cheryl"

,
PawsForThought composed with style:
From: "Cheryl"

I've had nothing but health troubles for my cats since I bought
my current house. Before I bought the house I never knew the
things I know now and my cats are on decent diets but they are
still having problems I've never seen before. I got a fish over
the weekend (a Betta) and after 3 days it died. I used the
water treatment that neutralizes chlorine. But it still died.
Granted, it could have already been sick before I got it but I
can't help but wonder if my tap water is to blame for all of my
cats problems.

Sorry to hear about your fish, Cheryl
Have you ever had your house tested for black mold?

I've been thinking about that. I started asking about it in a post in
another thread earlier but I don't know what to ask for, who to ask,
or what to look out for when having an inspector in. As I posted, I
had termites and I do believe termites and moisture go hand in hand.
I monitor the RH level in my downstairs and run a dehumidifier. I
should go ask about this in the alt dot home dot repair group. I am
highly allergic to mold, though, and I don't feel any ill effects
myself in the house.

There's a home repair group? I need to check that out
I guess if you did have black mold, as you say your own allergies would be
acting up. Although maybe it's not that severe, but cats, being much smaller
than us, might be affected by it? I don't know. It's interesting though that
the cats' problems didn't start until you moved into the new house. No new
clearning products or cat litter?

________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: "Cheryl"

,
PawsForThought composed with style:
From: "Cheryl"

I've had nothing but health troubles for my cats since I bought
my current house. Before I bought the house I never knew the
things I know now and my cats are on decent diets but they are
still having problems I've never seen before. I got a fish over
the weekend (a Betta) and after 3 days it died. I used the
water treatment that neutralizes chlorine. But it still died.
Granted, it could have already been sick before I got it but I
can't help but wonder if my tap water is to blame for all of my
cats problems.

Sorry to hear about your fish, Cheryl
Have you ever had your house tested for black mold?

I've been thinking about that. I started asking about it in a post in
another thread earlier but I don't know what to ask for, who to ask,
or what to look out for when having an inspector in. As I posted, I
had termites and I do believe termites and moisture go hand in hand.
I monitor the RH level in my downstairs and run a dehumidifier. I
should go ask about this in the alt dot home dot repair group. I am
highly allergic to mold, though, and I don't feel any ill effects
myself in the house.

There's a home repair group? I need to check that out
I guess if you did have black mold, as you say your own allergies would be
acting up. Although maybe it's not that severe, but cats, being much smaller
than us, might be affected by it? I don't know. It's interesting though that
the cats' problems didn't start until you moved into the new house. No new
clearning products or cat litter?

________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

On 19 Nov 2003 16:22:11 -0800, (-L.) wrote:


Actually the best method of treatment is Depomedrol injection. I
wrote pred by mistake as I'm taking pred now. ;p Cortizone
derivatives won't "prevent" it, so to speak, but it will make it clear
up and stay away for quite awhile - some cats have chronic outbreaks
and an allergen cannot be determined. Some vets feel there is an
autoimmune response/component to the disease. The bottom line is they
don't really know *what* the cause is, though. Kitties can live a
long time with it - mine has had hers since she was adopted - 13 years
ago. Until now, her outbreaks were well controlled. Lately she has
had more of them, possibly dur to failing health with old age.

HTH,
-L.

Thanks for the info -- much appreciated!

Ginger-lyn

On 19 Nov 2003 16:22:11 -0800, (-L.) wrote:


Actually the best method of treatment is Depomedrol injection. I
wrote pred by mistake as I'm taking pred now. ;p Cortizone
derivatives won't "prevent" it, so to speak, but it will make it clear
up and stay away for quite awhile - some cats have chronic outbreaks
and an allergen cannot be determined. Some vets feel there is an
autoimmune response/component to the disease. The bottom line is they
don't really know *what* the cause is, though. Kitties can live a
long time with it - mine has had hers since she was adopted - 13 years
ago. Until now, her outbreaks were well controlled. Lately she has
had more of them, possibly dur to failing health with old age.

HTH,
-L.

Thanks for the info -- much appreciated!

Ginger-lyn

On 19 Nov 2003 16:22:11 -0800, (-L.) wrote:


Actually the best method of treatment is Depomedrol injection. I
wrote pred by mistake as I'm taking pred now. ;p Cortizone
derivatives won't "prevent" it, so to speak, but it will make it clear
up and stay away for quite awhile - some cats have chronic outbreaks
and an allergen cannot be determined. Some vets feel there is an
autoimmune response/component to the disease. The bottom line is they
don't really know *what* the cause is, though. Kitties can live a
long time with it - mine has had hers since she was adopted - 13 years
ago. Until now, her outbreaks were well controlled. Lately she has
had more of them, possibly dur to failing health with old age.

HTH,
-L.

Thanks for the info -- much appreciated!

Ginger-lyn

"Kevin Krell" wrote in message
...
Ours eats both canned & dry food. So we use a canned food with
gravy,
and mix in the contents of the capsule (yes, emptied out), along
with
a probiotic. The problem was originally pretty bad when first
observed, with the swollen lip interfering with the teeth, etc., so
he
had a cortisone shot only that first time. While we have some
prednisone tablets in case of an outbreak outside convenient vet
hours, we have never had to resort to them. If for some reason he
focusses on the dry food for a while, and is not eating the
supplemented canned food, we'll see a little bit of swollen lip
and/or
chin. However, it is never severe, and is always controlled when he
gets his L-Lysine in.

Kevin


Hmm. Could be that I need to get some Lysine for Cheeks. It would be
great if it meant fewer Depo shots per year.

"Kevin Krell" wrote in message
...
Ours eats both canned & dry food. So we use a canned food with
gravy,
and mix in the contents of the capsule (yes, emptied out), along
with
a probiotic. The problem was originally pretty bad when first
observed, with the swollen lip interfering with the teeth, etc., so
he
had a cortisone shot only that first time. While we have some
prednisone tablets in case of an outbreak outside convenient vet
hours, we have never had to resort to them. If for some reason he
focusses on the dry food for a while, and is not eating the
supplemented canned food, we'll see a little bit of swollen lip
and/or
chin. However, it is never severe, and is always controlled when he
gets his L-Lysine in.

Kevin


Hmm. Could be that I need to get some Lysine for Cheeks. It would be
great if it meant fewer Depo shots per year.