declawing

Arjun Ray wrote in message . ..
In , "BrandyÂ*Alexandre"
Â* wrote:

| Cite your source.

You first, O Brandywhine.

| You're famous for making that request and getting bent out of shape
| when people don't answer you, so set an example.

Wow.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Um, who is she frothing about now?

-L.

Arjun Ray wrote in message . ..
In , "BrandyÂ*Alexandre"
Â* wrote:

| Cite your source.

You first, O Brandywhine.

| You're famous for making that request and getting bent out of shape
| when people don't answer you, so set an example.

Wow.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Um, who is she frothing about now?

-L.

"Brandy Alexandre" wrote in message
...

I'm not the one desperate to make a point. You are the ones trumpeting
about declawing and behaving like idiots. I don't care if you get your
message out there or not, but just trying to tell you that you cannot
influence people with 4th grade behavior.

"Get a room," is not 4th grade behavior? Name-calling is not 4th grade
behavior? If anyone has been immature in this, it's you; I've been very
level-handed about presenting facts to support my beliefs, and not stooping
to the nastiness you have. And you are the one who is always on about
getting points across, not me....obviously, you think mutilating a cat is
fine, and I don't expect to convince you otherwise. But when you make
stupid claims or insults trying to divert from the subject, I'm going to
mention it. This is a discussion group, and we were having a discussion on
the subject of declawing, at least until you changed the subject because you
realized you had no basis to support your point of view. If we are
trumpeting, it is because we care about animals, and hate to see ignorant
people harming them for their own convenience. But I've wasted enough of my
time interacting with the likes of you already. Clearly, you have nothing
more to say to defend your weak point of view, and I've said my piece, so
really there is nothing more to be said.

Ann

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http://www.angelfire.com/ca/bewtifulfreak

"Brandy Alexandre" wrote in message
...

I'm not the one desperate to make a point. You are the ones trumpeting
about declawing and behaving like idiots. I don't care if you get your
message out there or not, but just trying to tell you that you cannot
influence people with 4th grade behavior.

"Get a room," is not 4th grade behavior? Name-calling is not 4th grade
behavior? If anyone has been immature in this, it's you; I've been very
level-handed about presenting facts to support my beliefs, and not stooping
to the nastiness you have. And you are the one who is always on about
getting points across, not me....obviously, you think mutilating a cat is
fine, and I don't expect to convince you otherwise. But when you make
stupid claims or insults trying to divert from the subject, I'm going to
mention it. This is a discussion group, and we were having a discussion on
the subject of declawing, at least until you changed the subject because you
realized you had no basis to support your point of view. If we are
trumpeting, it is because we care about animals, and hate to see ignorant
people harming them for their own convenience. But I've wasted enough of my
time interacting with the likes of you already. Clearly, you have nothing
more to say to defend your weak point of view, and I've said my piece, so
really there is nothing more to be said.

Ann

--

http://www.angelfire.com/ca/bewtifulfreak

"Brandy Alexandre" wrote in message
...

Obviously your didn't like being confronting with your racism and
nationalistic biases. I learned all I needed to about you and your
beliefs from your attack on the list of countries I posted. It's
disgusting. You're a bigot. That's not name-calling; that's a fact.
It's ugly and I'm ashamed to be American if you represent us.

Brandy, you're just talking sh*t. What I didn't like was you twisting the
facts and making things up, nor defending a cruel and senseless practice
against innocent animals. I did not attack any countries you posted, and I
am nowhere *near* a bigot; I have friends in all different countries, of
varying races, creeds, and sexual preferences. So your calling me a bigot
and an ugly American is just plain name-calling, which you resorted to
merely because you couldn't find any valid argument to defend your bogus
point of view.

Oh, and by the way, the feeling is mutual; ignorant people like you make
*me* ashamed to be an American.

Ann

--

http://www.angelfire.com/ca/bewtifulfreak

"Brandy Alexandre" wrote in message
...

Obviously your didn't like being confronting with your racism and
nationalistic biases. I learned all I needed to about you and your
beliefs from your attack on the list of countries I posted. It's
disgusting. You're a bigot. That's not name-calling; that's a fact.
It's ugly and I'm ashamed to be American if you represent us.

Brandy, you're just talking sh*t. What I didn't like was you twisting the
facts and making things up, nor defending a cruel and senseless practice
against innocent animals. I did not attack any countries you posted, and I
am nowhere *near* a bigot; I have friends in all different countries, of
varying races, creeds, and sexual preferences. So your calling me a bigot
and an ugly American is just plain name-calling, which you resorted to
merely because you couldn't find any valid argument to defend your bogus
point of view.

Oh, and by the way, the feeling is mutual; ignorant people like you make
*me* ashamed to be an American.

Ann

--

http://www.angelfire.com/ca/bewtifulfreak

Which brings out the essence of the false dilemma above. On aggregate,
the issue is not *finding* a home. It's *keeping* a home.


In your example, there are still 900 de-clawed cats who got a home.
900 spaces more in the shelter.
900 less needing killing because of no space.

The 100 de-clawed returns have a higher chance of getting re-adopted, as
they appeal to people who would get their cat de-clawed anyway as well as
everyone else. This doesn't of course take into account any possible
emotional or physical changes that got the cat returned in the first place.

Id rather risk a 9/10 chance of getting a home than a 100% chance id be put
to sleep because they didn't have any space for me.


Mike

Which brings out the essence of the false dilemma above. On aggregate,
the issue is not *finding* a home. It's *keeping* a home.


In your example, there are still 900 de-clawed cats who got a home.
900 spaces more in the shelter.
900 less needing killing because of no space.

The 100 de-clawed returns have a higher chance of getting re-adopted, as
they appeal to people who would get their cat de-clawed anyway as well as
everyone else. This doesn't of course take into account any possible
emotional or physical changes that got the cat returned in the first place.

Id rather risk a 9/10 chance of getting a home than a 100% chance id be put
to sleep because they didn't have any space for me.


Mike

"bewtifulfreak" wrote in message ...
"Brandy Alexandre" wrote in message
...

Obviously your didn't like being confronting with your racism and
nationalistic biases. I learned all I needed to about you and your
beliefs from your attack on the list of countries I posted. It's
disgusting. You're a bigot. That's not name-calling; that's a fact.
It's ugly and I'm ashamed to be American if you represent us.

Brandy, you're just talking sh*t. What I didn't like was you twisting the
facts and making things up, nor defending a cruel and senseless practice
against innocent animals. I did not attack any countries you posted, and I
am nowhere *near* a bigot; I have friends in all different countries, of
varying races, creeds, and sexual preferences. So your calling me a bigot
and an ugly American is just plain name-calling, which you resorted to
merely because you couldn't find any valid argument to defend your bogus
point of view.

Oh, and by the way, the feeling is mutual; ignorant people like you make
*me* ashamed to be an American.

No doubt. Besides, she knows *nothing* about the countries she
posted, other than the fact that they aren't on the list of countries
wherein declaw law has been determined. She's just blowing hot air
out that over-reamed butthole of hers again.

-L.

"bewtifulfreak" wrote in message ...
"Brandy Alexandre" wrote in message
...

Obviously your didn't like being confronting with your racism and
nationalistic biases. I learned all I needed to about you and your
beliefs from your attack on the list of countries I posted. It's
disgusting. You're a bigot. That's not name-calling; that's a fact.
It's ugly and I'm ashamed to be American if you represent us.

Brandy, you're just talking sh*t. What I didn't like was you twisting the
facts and making things up, nor defending a cruel and senseless practice
against innocent animals. I did not attack any countries you posted, and I
am nowhere *near* a bigot; I have friends in all different countries, of
varying races, creeds, and sexual preferences. So your calling me a bigot
and an ugly American is just plain name-calling, which you resorted to
merely because you couldn't find any valid argument to defend your bogus
point of view.

Oh, and by the way, the feeling is mutual; ignorant people like you make
*me* ashamed to be an American.

No doubt. Besides, she knows *nothing* about the countries she
posted, other than the fact that they aren't on the list of countries
wherein declaw law has been determined. She's just blowing hot air
out that over-reamed butthole of hers again.

-L.