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Spicey is diabetic
Spicey is diabetic, according to her lab results. Her other values were ok.
It looks like she'll need twice daily insulin injections for the rest of her life, a delicate sounding procedure which will be impossible for me until I get to the point where I can at least pet her. I feel more urgency now to get her tame. Does anyone have any experiences treating a diabetic cat? |
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Spicey is diabetic
"Takayuki" wrote in message ... Spicey is diabetic, according to her lab results. Her other values were ok. It looks like she'll need twice daily insulin injections for the rest of her life, a delicate sounding procedure which will be impossible for me until I get to the point where I can at least pet her. I feel more urgency now to get her tame. Does anyone have any experiences treating a diabetic cat? ~~~~~~~~~~ Tak, Please check your email. I sent you a message concerning this issue. Please contact me if you do not receive it. My address attached to this message is valid except that you first need to remove "invalid." (without the quotes). MaryL |
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"Takayuki" wrote in message ... Spicey is diabetic, according to her lab results. Her other values were ok. It looks like she'll need twice daily insulin injections for the rest of her life, a delicate sounding procedure which will be impossible for me until I get to the point where I can at least pet her. I feel more urgency now to get her tame. Does anyone have any experiences treating a diabetic cat? Rumble is diabetic. He is in remission for the past many years ( knock on wood). The shots are extremely easy to give they hurt us more to give to them but you got to get a hold of them first. Rumble I used to pet him and you inject into the scruff of the neck pulling it up like a mother does to her kittens. He never knew it happened or cared. The diabetic needs are very thing for them and area about a section long on your pinky Now testing their sugar is a pain but I think technology has come along enough in the feline field as the human field When testing on their ear they have a tendency to shake their ear and blood droplets go flying |
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"Takayuki" wrote in message ... Spicey is diabetic, according to her lab results. Her other values were ok. It looks like she'll need twice daily insulin injections for the rest of her life, a delicate sounding procedure which will be impossible for me until I get to the point where I can at least pet her. I feel more urgency now to get her tame. Does anyone have any experiences treating a diabetic cat? This has always been my worst fear, as I know that Boyfie, even though he is *tame* would not tolerate having twice daily injections from myself as I even have to have help to put a spot-on on the back of his neck. I think Cheryl has/had a diabetic cat, maybe she can help with tips, but, yes, taming Spicey will be the main thing. Suz was not able to handle her and because of that she got like she is. It's not impossible to tame her, but it won't be easy and I hope you can do it in time to treat her diabetes. If you can't, TBH, Tak, I wouldn't blame you for sending her to join her meowmie - but I'd try until I thought it was hopeless. i always try until there's nothing else to be done, even against against hope it sometimes works. My heart goes out to you. You shouldn't have have been put in this situation when Suz has family. May Bast bless you for your kind heart Tweed |
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Not surprising considering her symptons, voracious appetite,
drinking/peeing alot, poor coat. I've never had a diabetic cat but I took care of one when his owners were away. This cat was already well-regulated and required a pre-determined amount of insulin 2x/day. The cat was easlily injected under the skin at the scruff of his neck while he was eating. He couldn't care less. The needles are tiny, and he was oblivious. I would prepare the insulin syringe first, then put down his food. While he was eagerly eating I'd give him the injection. The urine was what was tested for glucose at home in order to tweak the amount of insulin needed. I'm sure others here who have had hands-on experience treating a diabetic cat could give lots more useful information and tips. AB On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 11:36:17 -0400, Takayuki wrote: Spicey is diabetic, according to her lab results. Her other values were ok. It looks like she'll need twice daily insulin injections for the rest of her life, a delicate sounding procedure which will be impossible for me until I get to the point where I can at least pet her. I feel more urgency now to get her tame. Does anyone have any experiences treating a diabetic cat? |
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Takayuki wrote in rec.pets.cats.anecdotes:
Spicey is diabetic, according to her lab results. Her other values were ok. It looks like she'll need twice daily insulin injections for the rest of her life, a delicate sounding procedure which will be impossible for me until I get to the point where I can at least pet her. I feel more urgency now to get her tame. Does anyone have any experiences treating a diabetic cat? Not diabetic cats but taming them, yes. I do rescue ferals of various levels. Keep in mind that this cat is lucky to have you and was never properly socialized (Not her fault or your friends fault under the circumstances). What you are battling is also an overstimulation issue most likely. There's a very fine line there with some cats and frankly, she was allowed to be a terror and now at nearing 10 years old, she's never going to be a lap kitty. You've done well in the initial stages. What I would have done is make sure you have LOTS of 'hidy holes' she can bolt to at the start. This will calm a cat down if she's aware she can hide at need. Take a crayon or wax pencil and draw some pictures on the glass door so the cats can see it's there. You don't have a choice this time but be aware you are creating a terratorial cat situation right now. For the safety of your other 2 cats, this will simply have to be because from all I've read today on your situation, spicey isn't safe to add to your other cats now. Potentially, she may never be safe to have free roam but it's too soon to be sure of that. The terratorial situation means there is a high likelyhood of fights if you take it down too fast. I'm not talking little spats, but eye-rending potential. Don't be scared, you show you kinda knew that they have to be separated for some time. How to reduce the tensions and reduce the terratorial situation. Take a fluffy towel. Rub your 2 regular cats down with it then put the towel *beside* where Spicey sleeps, a foot or 2 away. Replace daily with a fresh towel that smells like your 2. Put a second towel down across 1/2 where Spicey sleeps (something very soft and furry, rub the item over your own body first). See if she sleeps on it (give it time). Try to have 2 of the same type. Replace once a day with the other one and put the 'used one that smells like Spicey' near (not on but near) a favored spot the 2 cats like. What you are doing is introducing them to the scents of the other in a non-threatening way. Stray items that smell like your other cats can be placed for a day oir so near the glass door. Do NOT overdo it though so Spicey feels like no part of the house is 'hers'. She's not used to sharing with another cat so let it take time. Check with the vets carefully and see if there is a possible oral administered medication that you can use at least for now. It may not be as effective, but getting shots into her twice a day is not sounding possible. She barely trusts you now and one wrong move at this delicate stage will undo everything and with some cats, you can never get that back once lost. She's been diabetic for some time ans while treatment should start as soon as possible, that means literally 'as possible'. Too fast trying to give her shots and you will find she is unmanagable forever and RB. Do look into special foods for diabetic cats. Low glycemic index ones (won't have any wheat or corn in them at all for example). Keep the same feeding routines as you have and work on seeing if you can sit consistantly next to her as she eats. I'd not try to pet her yet unless she turns and gives you a friendly 'bump'. Then, stick to a light petting of her back only. If *she* wants to rub her cheek on you, by all means allow it (she's scent marking you from her cheek glands if you didnt know it). Watch carefully as almost all cats when overstimulated will show it one way or another and do it before they scratch. It's not always as simple as a lashing tail (obvious). Daisy-chan for example bunches her neck and hikes her shoulders up around it a bit. Spicey is not an actual feral so I can't estimate time frames very well but she's going very fast as compared to true feral so I think it won't be many weeks before you can try getting a shot into her. You need to determine a really *special* treat (by her standards) first and have it ready to go the second you try medicating her. Caution note: some cats will (if you move too fast on this) associate that once special treat with 'bad things happen when I smell it' and that is not good. Daisy-chan, estimated 6 years completely feral, now with us 4.5 years, eats cats like Spicey for breakfast (sad grin, extreme 'only cat' syndrome). Has a multitude of 'special treats' we rotate when we have to medicate her or clean her ears. This kept her from avoiding any one treat type but also taught her that when we have to do something she won't like, she gets 'paid' for being polite about putting up with it. I'd take Spicey here if it doesn't work out only I can't. Daisy-chan will not tolerate another cat under any circumstances. Loves dogs though, wierd cat... Carol -- |
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AB wrote in rec.pets.cats.anecdotes:
Not surprising considering her symptons, voracious appetite, drinking/peeing alot, poor coat. I've never had a diabetic cat but I took care of one when his owners were away. This cat was already well-regulated and required a pre-determined amount of insulin 2x/day. The cat was easlily injected under the skin at the scruff of his neck while he was eating. He couldn't care less. The needles are tiny, and he was oblivious. I would prepare the insulin syringe first, then put down his food. While he was eagerly eating I'd give him the injection. The urine was what was tested for glucose at home in order to tweak the amount of insulin needed. I'm sure others here who have had hands-on experience treating a diabetic cat could give lots more useful information and tips. AB On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 11:36:17 -0400, Takayuki wrote: Spicey is diabetic, according to her lab results. Her other values were ok. It looks like she'll need twice daily insulin injections for the rest of her life, a delicate sounding procedure which will be impossible for me until I get to the point where I can at least pet her. I feel more urgency now to get her tame. Does anyone have any experiences treating a diabetic cat? Excellent and yes, I see several do have experience. Hopefully I covered the taming issue (not really taming, more socializing to people-touch) well. Got some diet advice for Tak? With no known allergies, there's some well recommended Hills Prescription stuff for diabetic cats. -- |
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On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 12:44:33 -0500, "cshenk" wrote:
Not diabetic cats but taming them, yes. I do rescue ferals of various levels. Keep in mind that this cat is lucky to have you and was never properly socialized (Not her fault or your friends fault under the circumstances). What you are battling is also an overstimulation issue most likely. There's a very fine line there with some cats and frankly, she was allowed to be a terror and now at nearing 10 years old, she's never going to be a lap kitty. This is good advice, and I'll save it for when we have more advanced introductions. It looks like that'll be on hold for a little while until I'm sure I can treat her diabetes ok. |
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On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 17:40:55 +0100, "Christina Websell"
wrote: This has always been my worst fear, as I know that Boyfie, even though he is *tame* would not tolerate having twice daily injections from myself as I even have to have help to put a spot-on on the back of his neck. I think Cheryl has/had a diabetic cat, maybe she can help with tips, but, yes, taming Spicey will be the main thing. Suz was not able to handle her and because of that she got like she is. It's not impossible to tame her, but it won't be easy and I hope you can do it in time to treat her diabetes. If you can't, TBH, Tak, I wouldn't blame you for sending her to join her meowmie - but I'd try until I thought it was hopeless. i always try until there's nothing else to be done, even against against hope it sometimes works. My heart goes out to you. You shouldn't have have been put in this situation when Suz has family. May Bast bless you for your kind heart Tweed Spicey's a gift - sort of. Some assembly required. I have a Wednesday appointment for the vet. That'll give me a couple of days between then and now to see if I can get her used to being touched a little. |
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"Takayuki" wrote in message ... On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 12:44:33 -0500, "cshenk" wrote: Not diabetic cats but taming them, yes. I do rescue ferals of various levels. Keep in mind that this cat is lucky to have you and was never properly socialized (Not her fault or your friends fault under the circumstances). What you are battling is also an overstimulation issue most likely. There's a very fine line there with some cats and frankly, she was allowed to be a terror and now at nearing 10 years old, she's never going to be a lap kitty. This is good advice, and I'll save it for when we have more advanced introductions. It looks like that'll be on hold for a little while until I'm sure I can treat her diabetes ok Some of us don't need a lap kitty to help as much as we can. I never thought Boyfie would get on my knee but he did, eventually. If he hadn't it would not have mattered. |
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