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| Besides that, we know ours are purebred because the pond scum people
| who relinquish them are all too happy to provide the papers, | That's what I mean, that they come in with Pedigrees. But isn't a "return clause" standard in adoption contracts for pedigreed cats? Or is that a convenient myth too? I don't think the average BYB even has contracts. Like Lyn said, its always Persians and Siamese, too. I guess they're common enough that one BYB can buy a Mommy Persian and a Daddy Persian from another BYB without spay/neuter agreements and voila! They're in bidness. Arrggh.. You know what else really asses me, while I'm on a roll? BYB's who like to screw around and breed their Himmie to the neighbor's Persian, or whatever, "Just to see what the kittens look like." That's probably how twisty cats got started. Some stupid BYB screwing around. Sorry. Off the soapbox now. Sherry |
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Arjun Ray wrote:
But isn't a "return clause" standard in adoption contracts for pedigreed cats? Or is that a convenient myth too? Well, it's a convenient myth if you go to any breeder. Not all breeders are equal. It's definitely hard to find a responsible breeder, no one is denying that. But one thing one should look for is a clause to return to the breeder (not that one should want to return the pet, but that the breeder cares enoguh to want ot make sure any animal she puts in the world is always going to have a good home, even if it means coming back to her). Alice -- The root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren't worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes 'em testy. ...Bev |\ _,,,---,,_ Tigress /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/tigress |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) Cat by Felix Lee. |
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Arjun Ray wrote:
But isn't a "return clause" standard in adoption contracts for pedigreed cats? Or is that a convenient myth too? Well, it's a convenient myth if you go to any breeder. Not all breeders are equal. It's definitely hard to find a responsible breeder, no one is denying that. But one thing one should look for is a clause to return to the breeder (not that one should want to return the pet, but that the breeder cares enoguh to want ot make sure any animal she puts in the world is always going to have a good home, even if it means coming back to her). Alice -- The root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren't worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes 'em testy. ...Bev |\ _,,,---,,_ Tigress /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/tigress |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) Cat by Felix Lee. |
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Arjun Ray wrote in message . ..
In , (-L.) wrote: | (Sherry ) wrote in message ... | Besides that, we know ours are purebred because the pond scum people | who relinquish them are all too happy to provide the papers, | That's what I mean, that they come in with Pedigrees. But isn't a "return clause" standard in adoption contracts for pedigreed cats? Or is that a convenient myth too? Oh, some use return clauses, some don't. But that doesn't guarantee that the breeder will come and get them, if contacted. I know of one cat that was surrendered to a shelter because the owner was elderly and ill, and the breeder was contacted, and over a week later, the cat was still waiting to be picked up. It wasn't until the rescue people started circulating an adoption plea for this cat, that the breeder got embarassed and was shamed into going in to get the cat. By that time, another home had been found, which was probably her MO to begin with. This particular breeder is a real gem - I know story upon story about her, and have had to deal with her myself on a couple of occassions. There is no torture horrid enough for her, IMO. -L. |
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Arjun Ray wrote in message . ..
In , (-L.) wrote: | (Sherry ) wrote in message ... | Besides that, we know ours are purebred because the pond scum people | who relinquish them are all too happy to provide the papers, | That's what I mean, that they come in with Pedigrees. But isn't a "return clause" standard in adoption contracts for pedigreed cats? Or is that a convenient myth too? Oh, some use return clauses, some don't. But that doesn't guarantee that the breeder will come and get them, if contacted. I know of one cat that was surrendered to a shelter because the owner was elderly and ill, and the breeder was contacted, and over a week later, the cat was still waiting to be picked up. It wasn't until the rescue people started circulating an adoption plea for this cat, that the breeder got embarassed and was shamed into going in to get the cat. By that time, another home had been found, which was probably her MO to begin with. This particular breeder is a real gem - I know story upon story about her, and have had to deal with her myself on a couple of occassions. There is no torture horrid enough for her, IMO. -L. |
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her, and have had to deal with her myself on a couple of occassions. There is no torture horrid enough for her, IMO. Yeah, just cause it is in the contract doesn't mean they actually care. But not having it in the contract is a pretty good sign they don't. It's hard finding a good breeder which is why I probably won't do it again and I want to get my dog from a purebreed rescue so I don't have to worry that I supported some one who really shouldn't be breeding (and yes, I'll also be looking at the shelters and I'm not ruling out find a dog I find in the shelters that just seems to fit). Alice -- The root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren't worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes 'em testy. ...Bev |\ _,,,---,,_ Tigress /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/tigress |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) Cat by Felix Lee. |
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-L. wrote:
her, and have had to deal with her myself on a couple of occassions. There is no torture horrid enough for her, IMO. Yeah, just cause it is in the contract doesn't mean they actually care. But not having it in the contract is a pretty good sign they don't. It's hard finding a good breeder which is why I probably won't do it again and I want to get my dog from a purebreed rescue so I don't have to worry that I supported some one who really shouldn't be breeding (and yes, I'll also be looking at the shelters and I'm not ruling out find a dog I find in the shelters that just seems to fit). Alice -- The root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren't worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes 'em testy. ...Bev |\ _,,,---,,_ Tigress /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/tigress |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) Cat by Felix Lee. |
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