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"Steve Crane" wrote in message oups.com... Phil P. wrote: "Steve Crane" wrote in message ups.com... It's not that pork is more or less expensive than other meat meals. The range in price for meat meals is waaaaay more variable based on the ash content than on the species from which it is derived. I wasn't referring to pork meal-- with the water and fat removed. I was referring pork meat. I probably didn't make myself clear. The cost difference between a low ash meal/meat (beef, pork, chicken, turkey, lamb etc) can be +25% more expensive than the same meal/meat in a high ash content version. That difference in cost is greater than the difference in cost between two different specie meat/meals. The specie of meat/meal does not affect the cost as much as the ash content. That certainly explains why Porterhouse Steak is about twice the price per lb. of pork loin even though they have about the same ash content and protein to ash ratio. Thanks for clearing that up. http://www.maxshouse.com/Clinical_Nu...RTHS_STEAK.pdf http://www.maxshouse.com/Clinical_Nu...,CKD,BRSD1.jpg |
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On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 11:43:28 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
wrote: Ted Davis wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 00:10:36 GMT, Diane wrote: In article . com, "Steve Crane" wrote: Pork isn't all that common becasue it isn't all that commonly eaten by humans. Think about how often you eat beef or chicken or turkey and how seldom you eat pork. As much as I like a good pork roast, it been months and months since we had one in this house. R What about ham? Same critter. Read the list of ingredients on a ham package sometime. On second thought, if you like ham, you might not want to read the ingredients list. You're assuming he buys processed ham - as do most of us, nowadays. The genuine article (which must usually be boiled before roasting) takes much longer to prepare, and is not so readily available, but a genuinely "cured" ham contains no additive but salt (and smoke, if you count the curing process). I am well aware of real hams - they were still readily obtainable when I was growing up half a century ago. Salt, pepper, and carcinogenic smoke ... some also used sugar and I have heard the maple something was used in some places. They taste good when properly prepared, but are hardly safer than the synthetic modern ones that I was assuming most readers would encounter. The "country" ham I can readily obtain locally is from California (half a continent away) and is "cured with salt, brown sugar, sodium nitrate, black pepper, sodium nitrite"; and it's labeled to imply, but not say, that it is hickory smoked. I give the most ham fanatic of my cats only tiny tastes. Then there is bacon. -- T.E.D. ) |
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Another upstate girl!!! Well hush my mouth and cover me in extra-hot
wing-sauce! Blessed be! Baha Mishi wrote in message news "Singh" wrote in message ... You must be referring to Wegman's. We have the ham chow at ours in Buffalo. Blessed be, Baha Yep! Wegmans it is. I live near Syracuse, and love to shop there. Patti |
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Ajanta wrote:
Quite clearly, cat food seems to be derived not from what cats would eat but from what humans eat: beef, chicken, turkey, tuna, etc. However, I also notice a conspicuous absence of one very popular and common human staple from cat foods: pork. Why is that? Can cats not eat pork? Is it harmful to them? Cats can only eat pork if they can catch it... http://www.bigtex.com/newsroom/stori...acingpigs.html I'm rooting for Porky. |
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One of our cats have just been Diagnosed with Diabetes,
and the only thing that takes her mind of the twice daily injections of Insulin Is a few chunks of Pork! Her eyes light up with the sight of it, taking her attention away from the needle in my other hand! Kate "Observer" same@ Iknow.com wrote in message ... "Ajanta" wrote in message ... wrote: : Boots loves a chunk of cooked bacon anytime she can get it. And being : the picky little thing she is, we let her have just about anything : she'll eat. Hi Sherry, I am sure occasional bits don't matter but isn't there too much other non-meat junk in bacon? Salt for one thing, and many other chemicals. Cats can eat pork. Some like it and some don't. But pork just does not mean bacon. Their digestive systems are equipped to handle scrap meat (mice, birds, lizards, etc.); so why not pork? I would not recommend a steady diet of it because food intended for humans does not have the required amount of taurine in it that cats mush have for healthy cardio. That goes for tuna (and any meat) that is intended for human consumption also. But if your cat likes a bit of bacon or niblets off the pork chops, it's okay. Just make sure it's just a treat and not a regular staple. --The Observer |
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Why is that? Can cats not eat pork? Is it harmful to them? Smokey poke would live on ham if we let him (which of course we don't) so he has to content himself with a bite of a ham sandwich from time to time. --Fil |
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"-L." wrote in message oups.com... No More Retail wrote: You know we need our pickled pigs feet I think I am going to be sick LOL...I have never understood some tastes. -L. That's because you have no taste. |
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"Joe Canuck" wrote in message ... Ajanta wrote: Quite clearly, cat food seems to be derived not from what cats would eat but from what humans eat: beef, chicken, turkey, tuna, etc. However, I also notice a conspicuous absence of one very popular and common human staple from cat foods: pork. Why is that? Can cats not eat pork? Is it harmful to them? Cats can only eat pork if they can catch it... http://www.bigtex.com/newsroom/stori...acingpigs.html I'm rooting for Porky. lol! I love the looks on their faces. |
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Phil P. wrote:
Manufacturing pork-based pet food would not be cost effective because of reduced popularity. Pet food manufacturers produce large varieties of types of food and flavors based on anthropomorphic appeal. People like and dislike specific flavors and different flavors and they assume their cats do too. Pet food manufacturers generally produce pet foods that appeal the most to humans. For whatever reason (religion, superstition, misinformation, myth) pork just isn't as popular as beef, turkey, chicken, and the other flavors. Sales relate directly to the amount of shelf space the products occupy- pork-based foods would take up shelf space that could be used for a more popular food. Perhaps calling a pet food flavour "ham" instead of "pork" would make it more appealing to the consumer? Pork sounds kind of crude, but most people like ham. -- Britta "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album |
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Steve Crane wrote:
Pork isn't all that common becasue it isn't all that commonly eaten by humans. Think about how often you eat beef or chicken or turkey and how seldom you eat pork. As much as I like a good pork roast, it been months and months since we had one in this house. Reminds me to talk to the boss (my wife) about that. Certainly not here in Thailand! I think pork is just about the most favoured meat out there. They love pork and it's in everything. Which is so funny because I just returned from a trip to Malaysia, just 1 country to the south. They're muslim there and pork is virtually nowhere. McDonald's has signs everywhere stating that they are strictly halal, most food stalls have signs saying "Strictly no pork!", etc. Dennis and I went to Tesco looking to buy some food and wine and wandered around the whole store not being able to find any liquor. Passed by the deli and they didn't have any pork. Finally, we came to the furthest corner of the store and there was a sign saying "Non-halal section" and they had liquor there and another little deli that had only pork products. Dennis and I made jokes saying that we are now entering the "Sinner's section" ;-) Ironically, pork use in pet foods has increased substantially in foods shipped outside the US. Manufacturers have been forced to substitute pork for beef in many foods shipped overseas due to BSE rules enforced by some countries. At the same time there are a number of Muslim countries who refuse to admit any pet foods into the country that contain pork. I have never seen pork in pet foods in Thailand, where it's eaten abundantly by humans. But then again, they only sell Whiskas and Friskies here and I don't use those. I import my own cat food from Canada or Australia when we go there on trips. Pork is perfectly good protein source for cats and there isn't any nutritional reason not to use it. Vino loves ham and we always give him scraps. -- Britta "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album |
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