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Pickles is pretty leery of people other than me...

In my part of the UK, "leery" means "aggressive, looking for a
fight".

That's probably only in your part of the UK, then. It seems most
everywhere else "leery" and "wary" are synonyms.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/leery

(Notice that your meaning is there, denoted slang.)

Are you British, Patok? Do you live in the UK?
Interested to know.

No, I'm Bulgarian, and live in the States at the moment. But the
English
I learned first was British, certainly.

My German friend only wants to learn UK English. If she uses like
"airplane" I am dead if I don't tell her it's an aeroplane.
We call this "A" - American. She does not accept "A" as English.
Tweed

You can insult our use of airplane in the same sentence that you use
"like" instead of "as an example"?!?! Seriously?

Yes. English moves on. American English doesn't.
There is no insult.

Excuse me? *American English has been moving on since the day the Pilgrims
landed, and it is still moving, rapidly.

Joy

As an amateur linguist (yeah, it's a hobby with me -- weird hobby, but a
hobby nevertheless since college) I must agree. If you look at the new words
being created on an almost daily basis, and you can get lists of *those
every year when the compendia of new words come out in new dictionaries,
various blog lists, etc., you'll see that American English is the most
innovative of all languages.

We are the most creative when it comes to talking, and we also have one of
the largest vocabularies. We create words for new situations and new
conditions and we have a huge collection of slang words (many of which
become mainstream in time-- e.g., "blog"). The average American uses a daily
vocabulary of almost 5,000 words. We have a LOT of synonyms -- just check
Roget's Thesaurus. *I know a couple of other languages, and believe me,
there is no comparison.

I have an older edition of computer Scrabble. I am sometimes amazed that
words which are in normal, daily use are not in the Scrabble dictionary. But
then -- that edition is 3 or 4 years old. The language has already moved on,
discarded some words, and adopted others (and I could not find an updated
Scrabble game, either!).

Sorry to be so long-winded. We now resume our regular cat programming...

Jay- Hide quoted text -

You'll probably find this list as amusing as I did. It's a list of
words pretty much
restricted to "American English".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...it ed_Kingdom

I love language but I admit I did have to get over myself at the trend
of turning nouns
into verbs....because there's no stopping it! I still cringe
sometimes.

But honestly, you can't categorize "American" English. There are so
many different
dialects inside the US. My friend from Long Island and I nearly needed
a translator
sometimes.

Sherry --- Who is still angry because iPad Scrabble tells me "Amish"
is not a word! Yes it is!

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MatSav wrote:
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Pickles is pretty leery of people other than me...

In my part of the UK, "leery" means "aggressive, looking for a
fight".

That's probably only in your part of the UK, then. It seems
most
everywhere else "leery" and "wary" are synonyms.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/leery

(Notice that your meaning is there, denoted slang.)

Are you British, Patok? Do you live in the UK?
Interested to know.

No, I'm Bulgarian, and live in the States at the moment. But the
English
I learned first was British, certainly.

My German friend only wants to learn UK English. If she uses like
"airplane" I am dead if I don't tell her it's an aeroplane.
We call this "A" - American. She does not accept "A" as English.
Tweed

You can insult our use of airplane in the same sentence that you use
"like" instead of "as an example"?!?! Seriously?

Yes. English moves on. American English doesn't.
There is no insult.

Excuse me? American English has been moving on since the day the
Pilgrims
landed, and it is still moving, rapidly.

Joy

As an amateur linguist (yeah, it's a hobby with me -- weird hobby, but a
hobby nevertheless since college) I must agree. If you look at the new
words
being created on an almost daily basis, and you can get lists of those
every year when the compendia of new words come out in new dictionaries,
various blog lists, etc., you'll see that American English is the most
innovative of all languages.

We are the most creative when it comes to talking, and we also have one of
the largest vocabularies. We create words for new situations and new
conditions and we have a huge collection of slang words (many of which
become mainstream in time-- e.g., "blog"). The average American uses a
daily
vocabulary of almost 5,000 words. We have a LOT of synonyms -- just check
Roget's Thesaurus. I know a couple of other languages, and believe me,
there is no comparison.

I have an older edition of computer Scrabble. I am sometimes amazed that
words which are in normal, daily use are not in the Scrabble dictionary.
But
then -- that edition is 3 or 4 years old. The language has already moved
on,
discarded some words, and adopted others (and I could not find an updated
Scrabble game, either!).

Sorry to be so long-winded. We now resume our regular cat programming...

Jay- Hide quoted text -

You'll probably find this list as amusing as I did. It's a list of
words pretty much
restricted to "American English".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...it ed_Kingdom

I love language but I admit I did have to get over myself at the trend
of turning nouns
into verbs....because there's no stopping it! I still cringe
sometimes.

But honestly, you can't categorize "American" English. There are so
many different
dialects inside the US. My friend from Long Island and I nearly needed
a translator
sometimes.

Sherry --- Who is still angry because iPad Scrabble tells me "Amish"
is not a word! Yes it is!

***

Yes, it's a word, but it's capitalized. I thought capitalized words weren't
allowed in Scrabble.

Joy

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Christina Websell wrote:
"Patok" wrote in message
MatSav wrote:
"Joy" wrote in message
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Pickles is pretty leery of people other than me...

In my part of the UK, "leery" means "aggressive, looking for a
fight".

That's probably only in your part of the UK, then. It seems
most
everywhere else "leery" and "wary" are synonyms.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/leery

(Notice that your meaning is there, denoted slang.)

Are you British, Patok? Do you live in the UK?
Interested to know.

No, I'm Bulgarian, and live in the States at the moment. But the
English
I learned first was British, certainly.

My German friend only wants to learn UK English. If she uses like
"airplane" I am dead if I don't tell her it's an aeroplane.
We call this "A" - American. She does not accept "A" as English.
Tweed

You can insult our use of airplane in the same sentence that you use
"like" instead of "as an example"?!?! Seriously?

Yes. English moves on. American English doesn't.
There is no insult.

Excuse me? American English has been moving on since the day the
Pilgrims
landed, and it is still moving, rapidly.

Joy

As an amateur linguist (yeah, it's a hobby with me -- weird hobby, but a
hobby nevertheless since college) I must agree. If you look at the new
words
being created on an almost daily basis, and you can get lists of those
every year when the compendia of new words come out in new dictionaries,
various blog lists, etc., you'll see that American English is the most
innovative of all languages.

We are the most creative when it comes to talking, and we also have one of
the largest vocabularies. We create words for new situations and new
conditions and we have a huge collection of slang words (many of which
become mainstream in time-- e.g., "blog"). The average American uses a
daily
vocabulary of almost 5,000 words. We have a LOT of synonyms -- just check
Roget's Thesaurus. I know a couple of other languages, and believe me,
there is no comparison.

I have an older edition of computer Scrabble. I am sometimes amazed that
words which are in normal, daily use are not in the Scrabble dictionary.
But
then -- that edition is 3 or 4 years old. The language has already moved
on,
discarded some words, and adopted others (and I could not find an updated
Scrabble game, either!).

Sorry to be so long-winded. We now resume our regular cat programming...

Jay- Hide quoted text -

You'll probably find this list as amusing as I did. It's a list of
words pretty much
restricted to "American English".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...it ed_Kingdom


What a delightful list. I've saved it. THANKS!




I love language but I admit I did have to get over myself at the trend
of turning nouns
into verbs....because there's no stopping it! I still cringe
sometimes.


Why? Great linguistic tool. Probably the only language in the world inn
which you you can "table" something and "chair" something else. :-) It
really makes for a very versatile language.

Jay






But honestly, you can't categorize "American" English. There are so
many different
dialects inside the US. My friend from Long Island and I nearly needed
a translator
sometimes.

Sherry --- Who is still angry because iPad Scrabble tells me "Amish"
is not a word! Yes it is!

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On Jan 8, 3:09 pm, "Christina Websell"
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"Patok" wrote in message

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Christina Websell wrote:
"Patok" wrote in message
MatSav wrote:
"Joy" wrote in message
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Pickles is pretty leery of people other than me...

In my part of the UK, "leery" means "aggressive, looking for a
fight".

That's probably only in your part of the UK, then. It seems most
everywhere else "leery" and "wary" are synonyms.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/leery

(Notice that your meaning is there, denoted slang.)

Are you British, Patok? Do you live in the UK?
Interested to know.

No, I'm Bulgarian, and live in the States at the moment. But the
English
I learned first was British, certainly.

My German friend only wants to learn UK English. If she uses like
"airplane" I am dead if I don't tell her it's an aeroplane.
We call this "A" - American. She does not accept "A" as English.
Tweed

You can insult our use of airplane in the same sentence that you use
"like" instead of "as an example"?!?! Seriously?

Yes. English moves on. American English doesn't.
There is no insult.

Excuse me? American English has been moving on since the day the Pilgrims
landed, and it is still moving, rapidly.



American English is not English as spoken in Britain, which is evolving in a
non-American way, that's what I was trying to say. Wicked, innit? Random
;-)
Tweed

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On Jan 8, 3:09 pm, "Christina Websell"
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Christina Websell wrote:
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MatSav wrote:
"Joy" wrote in message
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Pickles is pretty leery of people other than me...

In my part of the UK, "leery" means "aggressive, looking for a
fight".

That's probably only in your part of the UK, then. It seems most
everywhere else "leery" and "wary" are synonyms.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/leery

(Notice that your meaning is there, denoted slang.)

Are you British, Patok? Do you live in the UK?
Interested to know.

No, I'm Bulgarian, and live in the States at the moment. But the
English
I learned first was British, certainly.

My German friend only wants to learn UK English. If she uses like
"airplane" I am dead if I don't tell her it's an aeroplane.
We call this "A" - American. She does not accept "A" as English.
Tweed

You can insult our use of airplane in the same sentence that you use
"like" instead of "as an example"?!?! Seriously?

Yes. English moves on. American English doesn't.
There is no insult.

Excuse me? American English has been moving on since the day the
Pilgrims landed, and it is still moving, rapidly.



American English is not English as spoken in Britain, which is evolving in
a non-American way, that's what I was trying to say. Wicked, innit?
Random ;-)
Tweed

Right. There is American English, British English and Aussie English, all
of which are different, although they have a lot in common. There is
probably Canadian English, South African English and who knows how many
other varieties out there.

Joy

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Christina Websell wrote:

My German friend only wants to learn UK English. If she uses like
"airplane" I am dead if I don't tell her it's an aeroplane.
We call this "A" - American. She does not accept "A" as English.
Tweed

You can insult our use of airplane in the same sentence that you use
"like" instead of "as an example"?!?! Seriously?

Yes. English moves on. American English doesn't.
There is no insult.

You think American English doesn't change?!

--
Joyce

We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth
concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both.
-- Louis D. Brandeis

J J Levin wrote:

"Joy" wrote in message

Excuse me? American English has been moving on since the day the Pilgrims
landed, and it is still moving, rapidly.

As an amateur linguist (yeah, it's a hobby with me -- weird hobby, but a
hobby nevertheless since college) I must agree. If you look at the new words
being created on an almost daily basis, and you can get lists of those
every year when the compendia of new words come out in new dictionaries,
various blog lists, etc., you'll see that American English is the most
innovative of all languages.

We are the most creative when it comes to talking, and we also have one of
the largest vocabularies. We create words for new situations and new
conditions and we have a huge collection of slang words (many of which
become mainstream in time-- e.g., "blog"). The average American uses a daily
vocabulary of almost 5,000 words. We have a LOT of synonyms -- just check
Roget's Thesaurus. I know a couple of other languages, and believe me,
there is no comparison.

What you're saying about American English having all these synonyms and
so forth is also true of British English. It's an English thing, period.
English has a Germanic background, with Latin glommed on top of it. So
there are going to be many synonyms just coming from that.

We have many immigrants in this country, who add a lot to Am English. But
Britain has plenty of immigrants, too.

I don't know enough to make a pronouncement that Americans are more or
less creative with language than anyone else - I'd think language
innovation was a *human* thing. But I certainly know that Tweed's original
statement, that Am.E hasn't moved on, is *way* off.

Sorry to be so long-winded. We now resume our regular cat programming...

Too late! Language threads are generally long-lived on this ng. We love
to geek on about it.

--
Joyce

We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth
concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both.
-- Louis D. Brandeis

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Christina Websell wrote:
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MatSav wrote:
"Joy" wrote in message
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Pickles is pretty leery of people other than me...

In my part of the UK, "leery" means "aggressive, looking for a
fight".

That's probably only in your part of the UK, then. It seems
most
everywhere else "leery" and "wary" are synonyms.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/leery

(Notice that your meaning is there, denoted slang.)

Are you British, Patok? Do you live in the UK?
Interested to know.

No, I'm Bulgarian, and live in the States at the moment. But the
English
I learned first was British, certainly.

My German friend only wants to learn UK English. If she uses like
"airplane" I am dead if I don't tell her it's an aeroplane.
We call this "A" - American. She does not accept "A" as English.
Tweed

You can insult our use of airplane in the same sentence that you use
"like" instead of "as an example"?!?! Seriously?

Yes. English moves on. American English doesn't.
There is no insult.

Excuse me? American English has been moving on since the day the
Pilgrims
landed, and it is still moving, rapidly.

Joy

As an amateur linguist (yeah, it's a hobby with me -- weird hobby, but a
hobby nevertheless since college) I must agree. If you look at the new
words
being created on an almost daily basis, and you can get lists of those
every year when the compendia of new words come out in new dictionaries,
various blog lists, etc., you'll see that American English is the most
innovative of all languages.

We are the most creative when it comes to talking, and we also have one of
the largest vocabularies. We create words for new situations and new
conditions and we have a huge collection of slang words (many of which
become mainstream in time-- e.g., "blog"). The average American uses a
daily
vocabulary of almost 5,000 words. We have a LOT of synonyms -- just check
Roget's Thesaurus. I know a couple of other languages, and believe me,
there is no comparison.

I have an older edition of computer Scrabble. I am sometimes amazed that
words which are in normal, daily use are not in the Scrabble dictionary..
But
then -- that edition is 3 or 4 years old. The language has already moved
on,
discarded some words, and adopted others (and I could not find an updated
Scrabble game, either!).

Sorry to be so long-winded. We now resume our regular cat programming....

Jay- Hide quoted text -

You'll probably find this list as amusing as I did. It's a list of
words pretty much
restricted to "American English".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._widely_used_i...

I love language but I admit I did have to get over myself at the trend
of turning nouns
into verbs....because there's no stopping it! I still cringe
sometimes.

But honestly, you can't categorize "American" English. There are so
many different
dialects inside the US. My friend from Long Island and I nearly needed
a translator
sometimes.

Sherry *--- Who is still angry because iPad Scrabble tells me "Amish"
is not a word! Yes it is!

***

Yes, it's a word, but it's capitalized. *I thought capitalized words weren't
allowed in Scrabble.

Joy

Okay, you made me Google, and you are right. I was actually delighted
to
find an entire site for Scrabble rules. I'm a recent Scrabble geek.
Thanks for the tip!

Sherry

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MatSav wrote:
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Pickles is pretty leery of people other than me...

In my part of the UK, "leery" means "aggressive, looking for a
fight".

That's probably only in your part of the UK, then. It seems most
everywhere else "leery" and "wary" are synonyms.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/leery

(Notice that your meaning is there, denoted slang.)

Are you British, Patok? Do you live in the UK?
Interested to know.

No, I'm Bulgarian, and live in the States at the moment. But the
English
I learned first was British, certainly.

My German friend only wants to learn UK English. If she uses like
"airplane" I am dead if I don't tell her it's an aeroplane.
We call this "A" - American. She does not accept "A" as English.
Tweed

You can insult our use of airplane in the same sentence that you use
"like" instead of "as an example"?!?! Seriously?

Yes. English moves on. American English doesn't.
There is no insult.

Excuse me? American English has been moving on since the day the
Pilgrims landed, and it is still moving, rapidly.



American English is not English as spoken in Britain, which is evolving in
a non-American way, that's what I was trying to say. Wicked, innit?
Random ;-)
Tweed



There is nothing wrong with British English. It is simply a little different
than American English, which has evolved in a different direction. I am sure
British English has innovations, but it always appears to me that British
English is a bit more conservative when it comes to changes and innovations.

OTOH, there is no denying that British English is the mother of all English
languages. Nothing, but nothing can compare to something I heard about 40
years ago. My wife and I were going out with some friends in New York. Our
friend was an American who had married a terrific girl he met in London.
They lived in a high rise, and we had a drink at their place before going
out to dinner. As we were putting our coats on, she said to him: "John,
fetch the lift directly."

Took him a minute to realize that she was saying, "John, call the elevator
now.

:-)

Jay

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there are going to be many synonyms just coming from that.

We have many immigrants in this country, who add a lot to Am English. But
Britain has plenty of immigrants, too.

But I certainly know that Tweed's original
statement, that Am.E hasn't moved on, is *way* off.

Sorry to be so long-winded. We now resume our regular cat programming...

Too late! Language threads are generally long-lived on this ng. We love
to geek on about it.

I did not make myself clear. What I meant was that English in the
motherland, so to speak, has moved on in a different way from "American"
which was once English and now is a derivative, very similar but not the
same any more as your language has moved on as well.
This is not meant to be insulting as some think, it's just a fact. You
spell things differently, like humor, color and have things called faucets
;-)
Tweed