Questionz

Amen to this Kathy. New kitties have always been welcomed here, and that
much (AFAIK) has never changed in rpcc. And traditions can be carried on,
even if they change somewhat. The regular group that is here day after day
will be the ones to decide about new traditions and new events, but I'm glad
to hear that so many care about the Jellicle Ball.

I guess a little nostalgia comes over us at Jellicle Ball time. We begin to
think about the fun we had in the past and our loved ones at the RB. I wish
everyone here could read a few of the stories (and real life events) from
the past.

There is a long oral tradition that filters down from the past and keeps the
heritage of this group alive, so its roots are never allowed to whither
away. I gained my knowledge of the split and the original group in the same
way some of you are hearing it now, because I was not here during those
times. Some of the original posters were already gone (some had died,
others had lost contact) when I arrived, but I heard the names and the
stories of all of them. I wish there could be a grandmother kittie or
grandfather kittie who sits down with the youngsters every year and tells
the stories, much like so many cultures have passed down the tales from
their past. If it was ever composed, the job could be handed down when one
storyteller could no longer carry on and was replaced by another. Not just
the split, but some of the early tales too, like Spike and Shu, Finn's
Specialist Nip, the first hoomin Honorary Cat, Shadrach & Jezebel, Thaddy &
Bigman, the Rankincats, Major and Mahler, Shamrock & Thistle, Princess (the
dog who was an Honorary Cat), the Cadbury hunt... well, I'll stop here
because I can't begin to name them all and don't want to leave anyone out
either... so I'll not attempt it. Gosh, I love this group.
Ellie




"squiffer" wrote in message
...
oh, wow, I'm also from the old group preceding rpcc and Unca Cory makes
some
great points. Two of his points though are based on a misunderstanding.
Let me reference those two:
_____________________________________
1. An Rpcc'er wrote:

: I have been so impressed by the quality of writing that happens in our
: events, especially the Jellical Ball and wedwinks...the narratives
have
been
: so meaningful, and I have been remiss in not saying so quite often.
At
this
: Jellical Ball, I even cut-and-pasted much of it, to read from time to
time.
:
: I would be very happy and contented to see the traditions of rpcc
continue
: without any change at all,

Then Cory wrote:

: There isn't any way possible for RPCC to continue its traditions without
: any change at all. Kitties come and go now, for whatever reason, on an
: almost routine basis.
__________________________________________________ ____
I believe this refers to wanting to keep Meitze/Melissa in charge of the
"Calling of the names" that takes place at the Jellicle Ball and of
course,
"The Walk" and that's all. All other changes are inevitable, welcome and
interesting. I also want to keep Melissa in that role.
Kathy G
__________________________________________________ _
2. Cory wrote:
:I don't mean or want to speak for any kitty or hooman, but the new
: kitties who've joined RPCC in recent years since the split ARE welcome
: here, IMNSHO. We ARE glad to have you here, and we DO want the new
: kitties to feel welcome and join in or start activities that are fun,
: not only for the rest of the group, but for the individual kitties, I
: believe.
____________________________________________
Holy Bast, Unca Cory, where on earth did you get the idea that new kitties
aren't welcome? Good grief! Of course they are. Why else did we survive
those flame wars and the battle with the officials that tried to deny us
this group? We fought to make this group a reality for all kitties who
want
to meowchat. You gotta remember that war. It was hard and it was serious.
And now there is an rpccc and all meowchatters have it as their home. All
is
the operative word. That would be the Old Meowchatters, the New
Meowchatters
and the left-over Meowchatters.

I've been following the Wedwink and it's delightful. Did you know that the
very first Wedwink was between Dolores' Thaddeus and my Lily? Before that
everyone had winkwink bonds, but Lily's Maw, Frau Freya, was an old
fashioned cat and insisted on a wedwink, so we did it.

Anyway, I sure do hope that we are all welcome here - that was the purpose
in creating this group, after all.

KathyG
: --- Unca Cory

No, sheeze stinki. She nefur letz me rite ani mor bigBIG glare at meowmie

No! Yoono whutz sheeze duin? Insted sheeze vakumin ower cat tree! It waz
jest gettin gud wif ower furz!

Sebastian

"Ellie" wrote in message
...
Yore mom izza gudgud sekraterry. Mowsatronee soop souns pritty gud.
Izzit dun yet?
Princess Pasha, looking hungry


"Stacey Weinberger" wrote in message
...
Hihihi mine Sweedie! Ide hurd bowt Mietze leefin an wantid tu see whut
waz goin on! Meowmie iz suppost tu be cleenin howse an makin
mowsastronee soop fur a fren hoo iz comin offur tunite but wen she hurd
bowt dis she turned onna pooter fur me.

Sebastian

"Ellie" wrote in message
...
Sebastian!! Mineluv, itz gud tu see yoo heer!
Princess Pasha, rushing over to see her fuzzy fella



"Stacey Weinberger" wrote in message
...
Weeze poppin in agin.

Meowmie uset tu be a regular heer an inna rpc befur da split. Mine
doptid meowmie Cygne (RB) an I tuk part in mani an adbenchure such az
da Great Cadburry Hunt and da Jet Ski Race. Princess Pasha an I effen
had a whirld wide birthday parti heer. Den stuff happin. Hoomin
parintz died, noosgroop connekshun lost at werk an at home, hoomin's
toona compani maykes hur werk harder. Weze onna a cupla kittie
meowlists anna chat dere. We kame bak a yeer or tu ago and we din no
ani kitti ahardlee ani more. Itz hard tu take part wen yoo don no ani
bodi.

Sebastian

"Mme. Anaïs ^..^" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 01:24:28 -0500, Cory's nimble, little paws typed:


There isn't any way possible for RPCC to continue its traditions
without
any change at all. Kitties come and go now, for whatever reason, on
an
almost routine basis. There are many, many, many reasons for that.

gennle snippy

RPCC is NOT the same group that it was back in the day when it was
RPC,
and we had to preface our headers with "MEOW", so that those that
wanted
to filter out our meowchat could do so. Some people will say that in
some ways, RPCC is a better group. Some will say that, in some ways,
it's not as fun for some people (having said this, there ARE valid
reasons that some RPC folks stopped posting, other than it just
wasn't
fun anymore [lost internet access at work... don't have the time
anymore... there are even some people who still cannot access RPCC
through their ISP or newsgroup provider, even though it's been around
for a long time now. Some news feeds just don't carry it.]). I
personally prefer to just think that RPCC is different these days...
not
in terms of "better" or "worse".

You also have to remember, too, that people change as they grow
older.
What was once upon a time fun just isn't anymore... not because it's
turned "bad", so to speak, but because the people have simply
outgrown
that kind of fun (which is what I think has happened to me, to some
degree, as I've gotten older). Another reason things have changed is
because kitties' likes and dislikes change over time, as well, not to
mention that there ARE a LOT of newer kitties in the newsgroup.
That,
right there, will "shift" the interests of the group, and that's not
a
bad thing at all, I feel.

Indeed, Unka Cory, I agrees wif dis.

Every kitty and hooman that *posts* here
should feel welcome and have fun being here, and if that isn't the
case
for you anymore, then it's time to bow out gracefully, rather than
ruining a fun time for everyone else.


--- Unca Cory

A furry insitefull post, Unka Cory datz rite on! Fings grow an change
becawze dat'z the flow ov life.

An itz impurrtant to catsider da size of da groop: dere are purrhaps
12 hoomanz at most who post and participate in 'venturez an da like
durink da yeer, an mabee six or eight on any giffen day. An dis makes
it hard to keep da groop alive...

Fangu fur postink dis; it was gud to heer a voice ov reason.
--
Purrs,

Mme. Anaïs
11/3/2007 1:45:34 PM

Ize no, beleef me, Ize no...

"Ellie" wrote in message
...
Why wuld ennywon wanna vakkoom a cat tree? Thuh furs and stuff are whut
make it cozy an nice.
PP

"Stacey Weinberger" wrote in message
...
No, sheeze stinki. She nefur letz me rite ani mor bigBIG glare at
meowmie

No! Yoono whutz sheeze duin? Insted sheeze vakumin ower cat tree! It
waz jest gettin gud wif ower furz!

Sebastian

"Ellie" wrote in message
...
Yore mom izza gudgud sekraterry. Mowsatronee soop souns pritty gud.
Izzit dun yet?
Princess Pasha, looking hungry


"Stacey Weinberger" wrote in message
...
Hihihi mine Sweedie! Ide hurd bowt Mietze leefin an wantid tu see whut
waz goin on! Meowmie iz suppost tu be cleenin howse an makin
mowsastronee soop fur a fren hoo iz comin offur tunite but wen she hurd
bowt dis she turned onna pooter fur me.

Sebastian

"Ellie" wrote in message
...
Sebastian!! Mineluv, itz gud tu see yoo heer!
Princess Pasha, rushing over to see her fuzzy fella



"Stacey Weinberger" wrote in message
...
Weeze poppin in agin.

Meowmie uset tu be a regular heer an inna rpc befur da split. Mine
doptid meowmie Cygne (RB) an I tuk part in mani an adbenchure such az
da Great Cadburry Hunt and da Jet Ski Race. Princess Pasha an I
effen had a whirld wide birthday parti heer. Den stuff happin.
Hoomin parintz died, noosgroop connekshun lost at werk an at home,
hoomin's toona compani maykes hur werk harder. Weze onna a cupla
kittie meowlists anna chat dere. We kame bak a yeer or tu ago and we
din no ani kitti ahardlee ani more. Itz hard tu take part wen yoo
don no ani bodi.

Sebastian

"Mme. Anaïs ^..^" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 01:24:28 -0500, Cory's nimble, little paws typed:


There isn't any way possible for RPCC to continue its traditions
without
any change at all. Kitties come and go now, for whatever reason,
on an
almost routine basis. There are many, many, many reasons for that.

gennle snippy

RPCC is NOT the same group that it was back in the day when it was
RPC,
and we had to preface our headers with "MEOW", so that those that
wanted
to filter out our meowchat could do so. Some people will say that
in
some ways, RPCC is a better group. Some will say that, in some
ways,
it's not as fun for some people (having said this, there ARE valid
reasons that some RPC folks stopped posting, other than it just
wasn't
fun anymore [lost internet access at work... don't have the time
anymore... there are even some people who still cannot access RPCC
through their ISP or newsgroup provider, even though it's been
around
for a long time now. Some news feeds just don't carry it.]). I
personally prefer to just think that RPCC is different these
days... not
in terms of "better" or "worse".

You also have to remember, too, that people change as they grow
older.
What was once upon a time fun just isn't anymore... not because
it's
turned "bad", so to speak, but because the people have simply
outgrown
that kind of fun (which is what I think has happened to me, to some
degree, as I've gotten older). Another reason things have changed
is
because kitties' likes and dislikes change over time, as well, not
to
mention that there ARE a LOT of newer kitties in the newsgroup.
That,
right there, will "shift" the interests of the group, and that's
not a
bad thing at all, I feel.

Indeed, Unka Cory, I agrees wif dis.

Every kitty and hooman that *posts* here
should feel welcome and have fun being here, and if that isn't the
case
for you anymore, then it's time to bow out gracefully, rather than
ruining a fun time for everyone else.


--- Unca Cory

A furry insitefull post, Unka Cory datz rite on! Fings grow an
change
becawze dat'z the flow ov life.

An itz impurrtant to catsider da size of da groop: dere are purrhaps
12 hoomanz at most who post and participate in 'venturez an da like
durink da yeer, an mabee six or eight on any giffen day. An dis
makes
it hard to keep da groop alive...

Fangu fur postink dis; it was gud to heer a voice ov reason.
--
Purrs,

Mme. Anaïs
11/3/2007 1:45:34 PM

Why wuld ennywon wanna vakkoom a cat tree? Thuh furs and stuff are whut
make it cozy an nice.
PP

"Stacey Weinberger" wrote in message
...
No, sheeze stinki. She nefur letz me rite ani mor bigBIG glare at
meowmie

No! Yoono whutz sheeze duin? Insted sheeze vakumin ower cat tree! It
waz jest gettin gud wif ower furz!

Sebastian

"Ellie" wrote in message
...
Yore mom izza gudgud sekraterry. Mowsatronee soop souns pritty gud.
Izzit dun yet?
Princess Pasha, looking hungry


"Stacey Weinberger" wrote in message
...
Hihihi mine Sweedie! Ide hurd bowt Mietze leefin an wantid tu see whut
waz goin on! Meowmie iz suppost tu be cleenin howse an makin
mowsastronee soop fur a fren hoo iz comin offur tunite but wen she hurd
bowt dis she turned onna pooter fur me.

Sebastian

"Ellie" wrote in message
...
Sebastian!! Mineluv, itz gud tu see yoo heer!
Princess Pasha, rushing over to see her fuzzy fella



"Stacey Weinberger" wrote in message
...
Weeze poppin in agin.

Meowmie uset tu be a regular heer an inna rpc befur da split. Mine
doptid meowmie Cygne (RB) an I tuk part in mani an adbenchure such az
da Great Cadburry Hunt and da Jet Ski Race. Princess Pasha an I effen
had a whirld wide birthday parti heer. Den stuff happin. Hoomin
parintz died, noosgroop connekshun lost at werk an at home, hoomin's
toona compani maykes hur werk harder. Weze onna a cupla kittie
meowlists anna chat dere. We kame bak a yeer or tu ago and we din no
ani kitti ahardlee ani more. Itz hard tu take part wen yoo don no ani
bodi.

Sebastian

"Mme. Anaïs ^..^" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 01:24:28 -0500, Cory's nimble, little paws typed:


There isn't any way possible for RPCC to continue its traditions
without
any change at all. Kitties come and go now, for whatever reason, on
an
almost routine basis. There are many, many, many reasons for that.

gennle snippy

RPCC is NOT the same group that it was back in the day when it was
RPC,
and we had to preface our headers with "MEOW", so that those that
wanted
to filter out our meowchat could do so. Some people will say that
in
some ways, RPCC is a better group. Some will say that, in some
ways,
it's not as fun for some people (having said this, there ARE valid
reasons that some RPC folks stopped posting, other than it just
wasn't
fun anymore [lost internet access at work... don't have the time
anymore... there are even some people who still cannot access RPCC
through their ISP or newsgroup provider, even though it's been
around
for a long time now. Some news feeds just don't carry it.]). I
personally prefer to just think that RPCC is different these days...
not
in terms of "better" or "worse".

You also have to remember, too, that people change as they grow
older.
What was once upon a time fun just isn't anymore... not because it's
turned "bad", so to speak, but because the people have simply
outgrown
that kind of fun (which is what I think has happened to me, to some
degree, as I've gotten older). Another reason things have changed
is
because kitties' likes and dislikes change over time, as well, not
to
mention that there ARE a LOT of newer kitties in the newsgroup.
That,
right there, will "shift" the interests of the group, and that's not
a
bad thing at all, I feel.

Indeed, Unka Cory, I agrees wif dis.

Every kitty and hooman that *posts* here
should feel welcome and have fun being here, and if that isn't the
case
for you anymore, then it's time to bow out gracefully, rather than
ruining a fun time for everyone else.


--- Unca Cory

A furry insitefull post, Unka Cory datz rite on! Fings grow an change
becawze dat'z the flow ov life.

An itz impurrtant to catsider da size of da groop: dere are purrhaps
12 hoomanz at most who post and participate in 'venturez an da like
durink da yeer, an mabee six or eight on any giffen day. An dis makes
it hard to keep da groop alive...

Fangu fur postink dis; it was gud to heer a voice ov reason.
--
Purrs,

Mme. Anaïs
11/3/2007 1:45:34 PM

Well Mietze, you have always done an excellent job and we have been so
lucky to have you for this. Ifn you wanted tu continue yu wood haf our
support, but ifn you want to retire then yu haf our support fur dat
too. We can't take enny responsibility, cus we is not sure where we'll
be next year, but that's another story. We just want to make sure you
know how much you're appreciated and loved by our house.

Diana, Ryan, and Cinnamon.

On Saturday 03 November 2007 13:23, Ms. Tess wrote:

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:26:02 -0400, (The
Clowder (South)) wrote:

Deer Mietze,

I just wants tu fank you an Anti Melissa fur all yur gudgud werk offur
da yeers. Da Jellicle Ball iz furry important tu ourz kommunity an da
Calling ov Names iz da most solemnist moment ov da yeer.

Yu hab earned yur retirement an it will be furry hard fur anykitty tu
fill yur pawprints.

An I hopes yu rilly know dat yu didn make eny mistake, da kommunity
counted on yu tu do it fur uz.

Tess, raising a glass of nipwine to toast Mietze and Melissa

The mistake I made was not asking after every Ball whether anyone else
wanted to do it, but instead went right back to collecting names,
caught in the circle. It's meant a lot to me to perform what I
believe to be a valuable service to the community, but it was never
*mine* to keep.

Mietze wasn't going to announce this for a week or two, but this is as
good a place as any. She has retired as Gatherer and Caller of Names
effective immediately. The position is officially open.

Melissa

--
Regards,
Fred
http://www.fredwilliams.ca/thesecretofmoney.html

Da house uv Williams tuu! Whateffer Mietze wants Mietze shud get!

Diana, Ryan, and Cinnamon.

On Saturday 03 November 2007 15:19, Sylvia M wrote:

meee awlzo!
P2nya

"Ellie" wrote in message
...
We wuld sine tuu!
Princess Pasha, Phoebe & Emma


"Stacey Weinberger" wrote in message
...
Weed syn it!

Sebastian anna Joolian hoo dont bisit much but still reed frum tym
tu tym

"Ms. Tess" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 13:08:00 -0600, "squiffer"
wrote:


Do Meitze really want to retire? Maybe Meitze thinks other kitties
thinks
she shood retire? Inkwiring kat wants to know.
Burt

Dis kitty do NOT want Mietze tu retire. Shood dere be a petition?

Tess
:
: Deer Mietze,
:
: I just wants tu fank you an Anti Melissa fur all yur gudgud werk
: offur
: da yeers. Da Jellicle Ball iz furry important tu ourz kommunity
: an da Calling ov Names iz da most solemnist moment ov da yeer.
:
: Yu hab earned yur retirement an it will be furry hard fur
: anykitty tu fill yur pawprints.
:
: An I hopes yu rilly know dat yu didn make eny mistake, da
: kommunity counted on yu tu do it fur uz.
:
: Tess, raising a glass of nipwine to toast Mietze and Melissa
:
: The mistake I made was not asking after every Ball whether
: anyone
else
: wanted to do it, but instead went right back to collecting
: names,
: caught in the circle. It's meant a lot to me to perform what I
: believe to be a valuable service to the community, but it was
: never *mine* to keep.
:
: Mietze wasn't going to announce this for a week or two, but this
: is
as
: good a place as any. She has retired as Gatherer and Caller of
: Names
: effective immediately. The position is officially open.
:
: Melissa







--
Regards,
Fred
http://www.fredwilliams.ca/thesecretofmoney.html

Fred: Not to be nosey, well yes, to be nosey have you heard anymore about
the TV thing?
"Fred Williams" wrote in message
...
Well Mietze, you have always done an excellent job and we have been
so
lucky to have you for this. Ifn you wanted tu continue yu wood haf our
support, but ifn you want to retire then yu haf our support fur dat
too. We can't take enny responsibility, cus we is not sure where we'll
be next year, but that's another story. We just want to make sure you
know how much you're appreciated and loved by our house.

Diana, Ryan, and Cinnamon.

On Saturday 03 November 2007 13:23, Ms. Tess wrote:

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:26:02 -0400, (The
Clowder (South)) wrote:

Deer Mietze,

I just wants tu fank you an Anti Melissa fur all yur gudgud werk offur
da yeers. Da Jellicle Ball iz furry important tu ourz kommunity an da
Calling ov Names iz da most solemnist moment ov da yeer.

Yu hab earned yur retirement an it will be furry hard fur anykitty tu
fill yur pawprints.

An I hopes yu rilly know dat yu didn make eny mistake, da kommunity
counted on yu tu do it fur uz.

Tess, raising a glass of nipwine to toast Mietze and Melissa

The mistake I made was not asking after every Ball whether anyone else
wanted to do it, but instead went right back to collecting names,
caught in the circle. It's meant a lot to me to perform what I
believe to be a valuable service to the community, but it was never
*mine* to keep.

Mietze wasn't going to announce this for a week or two, but this is as
good a place as any. She has retired as Gatherer and Caller of Names
effective immediately. The position is officially open.

Melissa

--
Regards,
Fred
http://www.fredwilliams.ca/thesecretofmoney.html

"Stacey Weinberger" wrote:

Hihihi mine Sweedie! Ide hurd bowt Mietze leefin an wantid tu see whut waz
goin on! Meowmie iz suppost tu be cleenin howse an makin mowsastronee soop
fur a fren hoo iz comin offur tunite but wen she hurd bowt dis she turned
onna pooter fur me.

Sebastian

Sqyooze mineselv fur introodin, Mr. Sebastian...Miz Pasha.
But Mietze dint say she wuz leefin.
Just retiring.
Maykin frets to leef...dat's just lame.
She wuddnt do dat, she'd just go.
Sept she's not.
Evin doh sumkitties got mad wenn she mayd a suggestyun.
Even doh mymom got flaymd in privit mayl.
We'ze not goin.
Not yet ennyway.

Azad
--
Remove the first m to reply

Itz ben wonderful to heer frum all the antis and cats who doant come
arown much ennymore, specially on such a portant topic as tha Jellicle
Ball. Itz troo dat da Jellicle Ball is like a homecomeng - and dis
yeer, itz nise dat so many antis an cats are stickeng round afterwurd
so we can sort of haf a bizness meeteng and tawk bout da detayls. Itz
guud for longtime cats an new cats to come togethfur to tawk.

I know dat a lot of de longtime antis haf been emaileng eech uther and
are kwite upset dat Mietze mite resign. A lot of the newcomer antis
haf been emaleng eech uther, as well. De idea dat Mietze shud resign
came frum out of the bloo, to all off us. Dis was not sumthing we
wanted, nor was it sumthing we askd for. We did not ask enny cat tu
speek fur us: enny cat who has said dey wanted Mietze to resign, an
sayd deay speek for all uf us, issa ... issa ... well, not a furry nise
cat. Accordengly, if there is some nastee cat who has said dis, pleese
do not blame thuh rest off uss!

If an anti wants to haffa petition to ask Mietze to stay, dat wood be
eksellent - but I fink we all know what de outcome of any such
petition wood be. I fink if Mietze resined, it might effun cause an
irreparable rift in da whol process. We hate tu see any cats or antis
takeng sides whin it seems dat we want da same fings.

Da new antis try furry, furry, furry hard to adheer to the traditions
of the Jellicle Ball. We ask a LOT uff kwestions. We had kwite a
discusshion to see if it wood effun be appropyiate to hav tha wedwink
in conjunction wif da Jellicle Ball. I bout drove anti Melissa krazy
wif my menny kwestions bout protocol, because we new kitties revere da
Jellicle tradition an respect it. Plees do not fink dat we ignore da
importence of dis tradition.

Two more fings: I know sum antis fink it is sad dat only a liddle more
dan a dozen of uss post heer regularlee. Howeffer, dat duzzint meen we
aren't haffing fun or camaraderie. As won cat said, it is still a
wonderful, lively plase to go effury day, to be wif friends who
understand an smooth out da ruff spots in life. A groop dis size
manages dat furry well. Ther is a LOT of luff here - an a lot of
confurrsation.

And: If yu wer heer fur the Jellicle Ball, plees know that yu are
infited to da wedwink, an sine the gestbook!

Fangu all fur being heer.

Lucy

: Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, zo sad dese ist. Zo few. Ve come bak den,
ven
: can ve.
: Frau Freya representing the Gittel Furz
:
: Dat wood be nyce; jus to haff a 'venture, Unka Dan an myown hooman
: haff had to infent a number ov imaginary catz to keep da plot goink!
: So we'd LUFF to haff catz post an participate in da groop!
:
: --
: Purrs,
:
: Mme. Anaïs

yaya, zo troo!
Frau Freya