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Ethics question: the relative worth of different types of animals
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 18:02:42 -0700, Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
Just for example, how many more times is a cow worth than an earthworm? Would killing one cow be worse than killing a hundred earthworms? A thousand earthworms? There's more to think about than just the "death" of the cow, since it can't be killed unless it first has life. We can just consider the deaths of wildlife like worms, which are not deliberately raised to be killed, but since livestock are deliberately raised to be killed we must give their lives as much or more consideration than their deaths. So would raising and killing a cow be worse than killing a bunch of earthworms? · From the life and death of a thousand pound grass raised steer and whatever he happens to kill during his life, people get over 500 pounds of human consumable meat...that's well over 500 servings of meat. From a grass raised dairy cow people get thousands of dairy servings. Due to the influence of farm machinery, and *icides, and in the case of rice the flooding and draining of fields, one serving of soy or rice based product is likely to involve more animal deaths than hundreds of servings derived from grass raised animals. Grass raised animal products contribute to fewer wildlife deaths, better wildlife habitat, and better lives for livestock than soy or rice products. · Here we see plowing: http://tinyurl.com/8fmxe and here harrowing: http://tinyurl.com/zqr2v both of which kill animals by crushing, mutilation, suffocation, and exposing them to predators. We can see that planting kills in similar ways: http://tinyurl.com/k6sku and death from herbicides and pesticides needs to be kept in mind: http://tinyurl.com/ew2j5 Harvesting kills of course by crushing and mutilation, and it also removes the surviving animals' food, and it exposes them to predators: http://tinyurl.com/otp5l In the case of rice there's additional killing as well caused by flooding: http://tinyurl.com/qhqx3 and later by draining and destroying the environment which developed as the result of the flooding: http://tinyurl.com/rc9m3 Cattle eating grass rarely if ever cause anywhere near as much suffering and death. · http://tinyurl.com/q7whm In vegetarian ethics, do earthworms have any value, relative to mammals? Ingrid Newkirk: Six million people died in concentration camps, but six billion broiler chickens will die this year in slaughterhouses. - The Washington Post, 11/13/83 There’s no rational basis for saying that a human being has special rights. A rat is a pig is a dog is a boy. They’re all animals. - Washingtonian magazine, 8/1/86 This is not a troll post. I'm x-posting it to alt.punk, which I read regularly, and where there are quite a few vegetarians. --Bryan · Vegans contribute to the deaths of animals by their use of wood and paper products, electricity, roads and all types of buildings, their own diet, etc... just as everyone else does. What they try to avoid are products which provide life (and death) for farm animals, but even then they would have to avoid the following items containing animal by-products in order to be successful: Tires, Paper, Upholstery, Floor waxes, Glass, Water Filters, Rubber, Fertilizer, Antifreeze, Ceramics, Insecticides, Insulation, Linoleum, Plastic, Textiles, Blood factors, Collagen, Heparin, Insulin, Solvents, Biodegradable Detergents, Herbicides, Gelatin Capsules, Adhesive Tape, Laminated Wood Products, Plywood, Paneling, Wallpaper and Wallpaper Paste, Cellophane Wrap and Tape, Abrasives, Steel Ball Bearings The meat industry provides life for the animals that it slaughters, and the animals live and die as a result of it as animals do in other habitats. They also depend on it for their lives as animals do in other habitats. If people consume animal products from animals they think are raised in decent ways, they will be promoting life for more such animals in the future. People who want to contribute to decent lives for livestock with their lifestyle must do it by being conscientious consumers of animal products, because they can not do it by being vegan. · |
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