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Inappropriate Peeing
I've been owned by cats all my life and have never had this problem before
now. The problem started when we rescued Hunter and he was kept in the upper three bedrooms, bathroom and hall (we installed a door at the end of the hall to keep him in and the other cats out). He was an intact tom for the first week and a half we had him until his "snip" could be scheduled. I wasn't surprised when he started marking his territory (even though our current clowder, 2 girls and 2 boys, were already desexed) - that was pretty standard behavior for a tom being placed in new digs. We cleaned up with "Nature's Miracle" whenever we found a new marking (we bought a black light to look for stains not noticeable to the naked eye). As most of you know, Hunter died suddenly, after we'd had him for only 5 weeks, from a blood clot "thrown" to his lungs - we had no idea beforehand that he'd had myocardiopathy, 3 vet visits by two different vets didn't detect it. Even though we thought we'd cleaned thoroughly, apparently we didn't. Somebody started peeing first in the guest bedroom where Hunter had spent most of his time, then in DH's office which was Hunter's second favored spot. We cleaned again, thoroughly (I think I'm supporting the stock holders of "Nature's Miracle" by now), but it continued. So then we cleaned yet again and closed off those two rooms (our house is big enough that the clowder still has lots of room to roam despite that). For a while that seemed to have solved the problem, but yesterday when we got home somebody had peed all over the stair landing. I know for a fact nobody, not even Hunter, had sprayed there previously, so this couldn't be somebody trying to overlay a scent mark. DH thinks somebody may have been playing, gotten too excited, or too involved, to make it the rest of the way downstairs and into the garage to the litter boxes. I'm now pretty much at my wit's end and don't know what else to do. There is absolutely *ZERO* tension in the clowder - everyone is great friends with each other and they groom and play and sleep together, so I don't think a Feliway diffuser will help (it didn't keep Hunter from spraying to begin with when we were using it then). Cleaning with "Nature's Miracle" doesn't seem to help - they keep finding new places to pee. DH caught both Archer (male) and Sammy (female) in the act of peeing in his office, and I found Ozzy with a wet butt once, so it is different cats spraying in different places. This makes me think it's a behavioral issue rather than a health issue like a UTI. Archer, Demi and Sammy have all been to the vet within the last couple of months and checked out just fine. Jessie and Ozzy haven't, but haven't had any changes in eating or playing. I really don't know what else to do at this point, so any other advice anyone may have would be greatly appreciated. Hugs, CatNipped |
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Inappropriate Peeing
"CatNipped" wrote in message
... I've been owned by cats all my life and have never had this problem before now. Sorry, that should have been *3* girls and 2 boys. Hugs, CatNipped |
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Inappropriate Peeing
"CatNipped" wrote | I've been owned by cats all my life and have never had this problem before | now. Ditto. | The problem started when we rescued Hunter and he was kept in the upper | three bedrooms, bathroom and hall (we installed a door at the end of the | hall to keep him in and the other cats out). He was an intact tom for the | first week and a half we had him until his "snip" could be scheduled. I | wasn't surprised when he started marking his territory (even though our | current clowder, 2 girls and 2 boys, were already desexed) - that was pretty | standard behavior for a tom being placed in new digs. We cleaned up with | "Nature's Miracle" whenever we found a new marking (we bought a black light | to look for stains not noticeable to the naked eye). I've been using NM recently - decided to try it as an alternative to UrineGone - and finding that it does not work nearly as well as UrineGone. Some spots I've given it 3-4 applications and the smell than even my human nose can detect has not vanished, where a single application of UrineGone would resolve a similar spot. It takes a few good soakings in NM followed by several runs through the washer with NM only (no soap) to remove an accident on clothing, and even then, a stain remains. This never happened with UrineGone, I only had to spritz it on the fabric (like a spray-on stain remover) prior to washing for complete removal of odor and stain. | Even though we thought we'd cleaned thoroughly, apparently we didn't. I would blame NM for that. | Somebody started peeing first in the guest bedroom where Hunter had spent | most of his time, then in DH's office which was Hunter's second favored | spot. We cleaned again, thoroughly (I think I'm supporting the stock | holders of "Nature's Miracle" by now), but it continued. So then we cleaned | yet again and closed off those two rooms (our house is big enough that the | clowder still has lots of room to roam despite that). | | For a while that seemed to have solved the problem, but yesterday when we | got home somebody had peed all over the stair landing. I know for a fact | nobody, not even Hunter, had sprayed there previously, so this couldn't be | somebody trying to overlay a scent mark. DH thinks somebody may have been | playing, gotten too excited, or too involved, to make it the rest of the way | downstairs and into the garage to the litter boxes. | | I'm now pretty much at my wit's end and don't know what else to do. There | is absolutely *ZERO* tension in the clowder - everyone is great friends with | each other and they groom and play and sleep together, so I don't think a | Feliway diffuser will help (it didn't keep Hunter from spraying to begin | with when we were using it then). Cleaning with "Nature's Miracle" doesn't | seem to help - they keep finding new places to pee. | | DH caught both Archer (male) and Sammy (female) in the act of peeing in his | office, and I found Ozzy with a wet butt once, so it is different cats | spraying in different places. This makes me think it's a behavioral issue | rather than a health issue like a UTI. Archer, Demi and Sammy have all been | to the vet within the last couple of months and checked out just fine. | Jessie and Ozzy haven't, but haven't had any changes in eating or playing. | | I really don't know what else to do at this point, so any other advice | anyone may have would be greatly appreciated. Maybe you ought to get some UrineGone and treat all those places one more time, if you can remember them all. I never had a problem when I used UrineGone but since buying and using only NM, Eli is spraying regularly, Tommy is having an occasional accident, and Abelard has totally lost it when it comes to pee errors. I'm keeping my remaining supply of NM for soaking peed-on clothing only. It's OK for an initial treatment (but will not do the total job) and all but useless for anything else even when used in a strong concentration and kept damp as the instructions say. |
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Whoops! Inappropriate Peeing
"Pat" wrote | I've been using NM recently - decided to try it as an alternative to | UrineGone - and finding that it does not work nearly as well as UrineGone. Sorry about that! I didn't mean Nature's Miracle, I meant Unique Pet Odor and Stain Remover. This product: http://cgi.ebay.com/Unique-Pet-Odor-...84577390QQcmdZ Nature's Miracle does work for me. It's the "Unique" product that I meant to be criticizing. So I don't have advice for you after all. My mind is not what it used to be.... |
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Inappropriate Peeing
"CatNipped" wrote in message ... I've been owned by cats all my life and have never had this problem before now. The problem started when we rescued Hunter and he was kept in the upper three bedrooms, bathroom and hall (we installed a door at the end of the hall to keep him in and the other cats out). He was an intact tom for the first week and a half we had him until his "snip" could be scheduled. I wasn't surprised when he started marking his territory (even though our current clowder, 2 girls and 2 boys, were already desexed) - that was pretty standard behavior for a tom being placed in new digs. We cleaned up with "Nature's Miracle" whenever we found a new marking (we bought a black light to look for stains not noticeable to the naked eye). As most of you know, Hunter died suddenly, after we'd had him for only 5 weeks, from a blood clot "thrown" to his lungs - we had no idea beforehand that he'd had myocardiopathy, 3 vet visits by two different vets didn't detect it. Even though we thought we'd cleaned thoroughly, apparently we didn't. Somebody started peeing first in the guest bedroom where Hunter had spent most of his time, then in DH's office which was Hunter's second favored spot. We cleaned again, thoroughly (I think I'm supporting the stock holders of "Nature's Miracle" by now), but it continued. So then we cleaned yet again and closed off those two rooms (our house is big enough that the clowder still has lots of room to roam despite that). For a while that seemed to have solved the problem, but yesterday when we got home somebody had peed all over the stair landing. I know for a fact nobody, not even Hunter, had sprayed there previously, so this couldn't be somebody trying to overlay a scent mark. DH thinks somebody may have been playing, gotten too excited, or too involved, to make it the rest of the way downstairs and into the garage to the litter boxes. I'm now pretty much at my wit's end and don't know what else to do. There is absolutely *ZERO* tension in the clowder - everyone is great friends with each other and they groom and play and sleep together, so I don't think a Feliway diffuser will help (it didn't keep Hunter from spraying to begin with when we were using it then). Cleaning with "Nature's Miracle" doesn't seem to help - they keep finding new places to pee. DH caught both Archer (male) and Sammy (female) in the act of peeing in his office, and I found Ozzy with a wet butt once, so it is different cats spraying in different places. This makes me think it's a behavioral issue rather than a health issue like a UTI. Archer, Demi and Sammy have all been to the vet within the last couple of months and checked out just fine. Jessie and Ozzy haven't, but haven't had any changes in eating or playing. I really don't know what else to do at this point, so any other advice anyone may have would be greatly appreciated. Hugs, CatNipped you mention the litter boxes being in the garage, any chance of adding a few boxes throughout the house? maybe if they have more places to go they'll use the new litter boxes? Sara |
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Inappropriate Peeing - Mystery Solved!
Gawds, I feel so guilty and so *STUPID*!!!
It wasn't marking territory, it wasn't stress, it wasn't UTIs.... We keep the litter boxes in our attached garage. The door to the garage has a cat door in it so the cats can come and go to their boxes. The cat door had somehow gotten switched over from "open" to "locked". Neither of us thought to check that since we never, for any reason, lock the thing - I guess one of the cats brushed the little slide thingie when coming or going. I had DH pop the slide lock off of it so it doesn't happen again. Sheesh! smacking forehead -- Chin Skritches, CatNipped See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ "CatNipped" wrote in message ... I've been owned by cats all my life and have never had this problem before now. The problem started when we rescued Hunter and he was kept in the upper three bedrooms, bathroom and hall (we installed a door at the end of the hall to keep him in and the other cats out). He was an intact tom for the first week and a half we had him until his "snip" could be scheduled. I wasn't surprised when he started marking his territory (even though our current clowder, 2 girls and 2 boys, were already desexed) - that was pretty standard behavior for a tom being placed in new digs. We cleaned up with "Nature's Miracle" whenever we found a new marking (we bought a black light to look for stains not noticeable to the naked eye). As most of you know, Hunter died suddenly, after we'd had him for only 5 weeks, from a blood clot "thrown" to his lungs - we had no idea beforehand that he'd had myocardiopathy, 3 vet visits by two different vets didn't detect it. Even though we thought we'd cleaned thoroughly, apparently we didn't. Somebody started peeing first in the guest bedroom where Hunter had spent most of his time, then in DH's office which was Hunter's second favored spot. We cleaned again, thoroughly (I think I'm supporting the stock holders of "Nature's Miracle" by now), but it continued. So then we cleaned yet again and closed off those two rooms (our house is big enough that the clowder still has lots of room to roam despite that). For a while that seemed to have solved the problem, but yesterday when we got home somebody had peed all over the stair landing. I know for a fact nobody, not even Hunter, had sprayed there previously, so this couldn't be somebody trying to overlay a scent mark. DH thinks somebody may have been playing, gotten too excited, or too involved, to make it the rest of the way downstairs and into the garage to the litter boxes. I'm now pretty much at my wit's end and don't know what else to do. There is absolutely *ZERO* tension in the clowder - everyone is great friends with each other and they groom and play and sleep together, so I don't think a Feliway diffuser will help (it didn't keep Hunter from spraying to begin with when we were using it then). Cleaning with "Nature's Miracle" doesn't seem to help - they keep finding new places to pee. DH caught both Archer (male) and Sammy (female) in the act of peeing in his office, and I found Ozzy with a wet butt once, so it is different cats spraying in different places. This makes me think it's a behavioral issue rather than a health issue like a UTI. Archer, Demi and Sammy have all been to the vet within the last couple of months and checked out just fine. Jessie and Ozzy haven't, but haven't had any changes in eating or playing. I really don't know what else to do at this point, so any other advice anyone may have would be greatly appreciated. Hugs, CatNipped |
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Inappropriate Peeing - Mystery Solved!
"CatNipped" wrote:
Gawds, I feel so guilty and so *STUPID*!!! It wasn't marking territory, it wasn't stress, it wasn't UTIs.... We keep the litter boxes in our attached garage. The door to the garage has a cat door in it so the cats can come and go to their boxes. The cat door had somehow gotten switched over from "open" to "locked". Neither of us thought to check that since we never, for any reason, lock the thing - I guess one of the cats brushed the little slide thingie when coming or going. I had DH pop the slide lock off of it so it doesn't happen again. Sheesh! smacking forehead I'm so relieved that it's not medical or behavioral issue. But it's probably nothing compared to the relief your clowder feels. |
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Inappropriate Peeing - Mystery Solved!
"Takayuki" wrote in message
news "CatNipped" wrote: Gawds, I feel so guilty and so *STUPID*!!! It wasn't marking territory, it wasn't stress, it wasn't UTIs.... We keep the litter boxes in our attached garage. The door to the garage has a cat door in it so the cats can come and go to their boxes. The cat door had somehow gotten switched over from "open" to "locked". Neither of us thought to check that since we never, for any reason, lock the thing - I guess one of the cats brushed the little slide thingie when coming or going. I had DH pop the slide lock off of it so it doesn't happen again. Sheesh! smacking forehead I'm so relieved that it's not medical or behavioral issue. But it's probably nothing compared to the relief your clowder feels. That's why I feel so guilty!!! Can you imagine how hard they tried to "hold it" until they just couldn't any more??!!! My poor, poor babies!!! What an awful mommy I am!!!!! Nose Kisses, CatNipped |
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Inappropriate Peeing - Mystery Solved!
CatNipped kirjoitti:
"Takayuki" wrote in message news "CatNipped" wrote: Gawds, I feel so guilty and so *STUPID*!!! It wasn't marking territory, it wasn't stress, it wasn't UTIs.... We keep the litter boxes in our attached garage. The door to the garage has a cat door in it so the cats can come and go to their boxes. The cat door had somehow gotten switched over from "open" to "locked". Neither of us thought to check that since we never, for any reason, lock the thing - I guess one of the cats brushed the little slide thingie when coming or going. I had DH pop the slide lock off of it so it doesn't happen again. Sheesh! smacking forehead I'm so relieved that it's not medical or behavioral issue. But it's probably nothing compared to the relief your clowder feels. That's why I feel so guilty!!! Can you imagine how hard they tried to "hold it" until they just couldn't any more??!!! My poor, poor babies!!! What an awful mommy I am!!!!! Nose Kisses, CatNipped And they weren't trying to attract your attention to it?? "Moooommmyyy, open the door, I really really need to go NOW!!!" -- Christine in Laitila, Finland christal63 (at) gmail (dot) com photos: http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb108/christal63/ photos: http://community.webshots.com/user/chkr63 |
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Inappropriate Peeing - Mystery Solved!
CatNipped wrote:
Gawds, I feel so guilty and so *STUPID*!!! It wasn't marking territory, it wasn't stress, it wasn't UTIs.... We keep the litter boxes in our attached garage. The door to the garage has a cat door in it so the cats can come and go to their boxes. The cat door had somehow gotten switched over from "open" to "locked". Neither of us thought to check that since we never, for any reason, lock the thing - I guess one of the cats brushed the little slide thingie when coming or going. I had DH pop the slide lock off of it so it doesn't happen again. Sheesh! smacking forehead Sorry but, ROTFL it's so easy to miss the obvious. I'm so glad there's nothing wrong with your owner. -- Adrian (Owned by Snoopy, Bagheera & Shadow) Cats leave pawprints on your heart http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk |
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