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On 2005-03-28, Mary penned:
I have had the impulse, but as soon as I thought about how it would change my life I vetoed it. Even with my sisters and many of my friends and colleagues doing the little mysterious smile and comments such as "it's the most wonderful thing in the world" and all that other stuff the childful do around us child-less, I have never bought into the idea that I am missing anything I don't want to miss. For me, doing anything and everything I want to do with my life without having the distraction of dependants who might or might not even like me or appreciate what I have done for them just does not quite suck. I have watched my oldest nieces and nephews grow up, too. Let's just say that their parents' experiences with them have done nothing to make me think my first take on the situation was wrong. My coworker's wife just had a baby. He was back in the office just about instantly. Of course he wanted to tell me about how it's the best thing you can ever do. Well, I'm not going to **** him off by contradicting him -- what's the point? -- but I'm just sitting here thinking, you think it changed your life? That thing wasn't in your body. You're here at work two days later; gee, I wonder what your wife's doing right now. (To be fair, he'd been asking about paternity leave earlier and I'm sure it would be tough for them to do without the pay). It's the old joke about pregnancy being like breakfast -- the chicken's involved, but the pig is committed. Yeah, nice, he donated some sperm and I bet he'll have some sleepless nights. Still, I don't want a male telling me how great it would be to have my body invaded and permanently altered. I could get that with cancer, too. -- monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca |
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:21:21 -0500, "PawsForThought"
wrote: Mary, honestly, I never have. Maybe there's something wrong with me but I can tell you I've never felt that desire. I mean I like kids, so long as they're not mine. Same here. I babysat some infants when I was younger, and I was very glad to give them back to their mothers. I love taking care of my cats and dogs, and I want to adopt most of the ones I see. But I don't feel the same way when i look at human children. -- Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com |
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I think buying a purebred is the smart thing to do,for starters you know
what kind of cat you are getting unlike adopted cats some of them have been in half a dozen homes.I have heard some real horror stories about adopted cats but have never heard a bad thing about buying a purebred.And like someone already said you are giving a cat a good home ,but by buying purebred you know what you are getting into.I have 2 cats, a maine coon and a ragdoll,and would never trade them for anything. "Brian Link" wrote in message ... Going through old photos today, and came across a directory filled with pics from when we were thinking about buying a Bengal (which we did, and he's wonderful). Most are from this site: http://www.tibcs.com/petcorner/photos.php After having been through an ordeal with a stray, and knowing the incredible number of discarded cats available for adoption, is it morally wrong to think of adopting another purebred? We've adopted six strays over the last ten years. We bought our Bengal primarily because we wanted a cat whose personality could be determined before hand, so it would keep our playful, energetic Tiger company. This was a specific case that's worked out fantastically.. http://www.discant.com/Cat/Henry%20001.jpg But I really love this breed - and if we can get ahold of a kitten, there's a better chance that Louis won't go nuts. Just a thought. Breeders will continue to breed no matter what we do, and poor strays will get euthanized no matter what we do. But is this just rationalizing? Eh.. I'm not totally driven to take in another cat, but I keep wondering what Louis will do when Tiger finally dies.. it would be so nice for him to have another friend around. Also I'd be happy to hear others' thoughts about adopting from a shelter vs adopting a purebred. BLink |
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 07:21:57 -0500, "Phil P."
wrote: As long as you adopt the cat from a kill shelter - it doesn't matter because you'll be saving a life and providing a companion for Tiger. If you plan to buy a 'purebred', first, you might want to take a stroll down death row of your local kill shelter and then see how those forsaken faces make you feel about buying a cat from a breeder who probably has a waiting list of buyers and can't churn out cats fast enough. This is a very good idea. While back, there was a discussion about Maine Coons, and I was very interested, because the breed appeals to me. I have seen them at shows, and I figured that somebody I might want one. I don't care about pedigree, so a shelter cat would be fine. It doesn't need to be a purebred. The temperment is more important, so if I find a cat that looks good and has the temperement I want, then I should be happy. So, basically, I was hopeful of getting a Maine Coon in the future, but not interested in going to a breeder. Well, about 6 weeks ago, I was at a cat show as a vendor, and I found myself looking a special cat. I don't know why. I went over to talk to the shelter lady, not look at adopting a cat. But I gazed into his eyes, and he sucked me in. He was all curled up in his litter box, so I didn't even get a good look until the next day. And I didn't realize how heavy he was until I carried him out to the car. So, what did I get? Well, he might be part Maine Coon. He is large (though only 12-13 lbs), and he is fluffy. But he looks pretty much like an oversized Balinese. The shelter described him as a Himilayan mix. Frankly, I don't care what he is. He is beautiful, and the sweetest, non agressive cat I ever met. He is so mild and sweet. Exactly what I expected when I gazed into his eyes. My only disappointment is that he won't stay on my bed and does not appear to want to cuddle. But I am hopeful that he will warm up to it later. He comes for petting now more than before, he lets me pet his belly now. So, he may eventually get mory cuddly. He has been following me around like a puppy dog since I got him, so he is definitely friendly. And he talks a lot. Sometimes meowing, and sometimes a cute chortle. Anyway, he wasn't exactly what I had visualized, and he came along a lot sooner than planned, but he is perfect. And I think anybody looking for a cat could check oout the shelters and find the cat for them, even if the cat doesn't match their preconceived ideal. -- Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com |
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"Meghan Noecker" wrote in message ... Anyway, he wasn't exactly what I had visualized, and he came along a lot sooner than planned, but he is perfect. And I think anybody looking for a cat could check oout the shelters and find the cat for them, even if the cat doesn't match their preconceived ideal. I think anyone looking for a cat should get the cat they want, then take care of it responsibly. |
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"Candace" wrote in message oups.com... Mary wrote: "Candace" wrote in message oups.com... Mary wrote: (No, I do not and will not have children, for reasons of my own.) Thank God. But it might cut down on your incessant usenet postings so I guess there would be an upside (for us). Candace Wow. That was so witty, and not at all predictable. You radical, you. G Oh, is that why you posted it--so someone could predictably respond and fall, once more, into your trap? I feel sooooo foolish...and simple...and mainstream by doing so. If only I could take it back, darn, bested by "Mary" yet again... I just post what I feel like posting, you hip and radical chick. You do the same. Live and let live. |
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"Bolo" wrote in message news:3WK1e.817220$Xk.34378@pd7tw3no... I think buying a purebred is the smart thing to do,for starters you know what kind of cat you are getting unlike adopted cats some of them have been in half a dozen homes.I have heard some real horror stories about adopted cats but have never heard a bad thing about buying a purebred. hahahaha! |
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In message "Mary"
wrote: "PawsForThought" wrote in message ... Mary wrote: We all have a deep-seated drive to reproduce Speak for yourself! LOL -- Haven't you ever felt it, on a basic biological level? Like you can feel your blood simmering in your veins at certaintimes? Or experienced changes in the way you look at babies or feel when you hear a baby crying? In my 20s I referred to such events as Mother Nature thumbing her nose at me. It is not a desire so much as a drive. Even sexual desire is part of it--and the entire reason we are programed to find that desire so strong and powerful and compelling. Happily, I have rarely allowed what I am sitting on to dictate my actions. Maybe it's a male/female thing, but I've never had any real urge to breed. |
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:11:56 +1200, "Ashley"
wrote: "Meghan Noecker" wrote in message ... Anyway, he wasn't exactly what I had visualized, and he came along a lot sooner than planned, but he is perfect. And I think anybody looking for a cat could check oout the shelters and find the cat for them, even if the cat doesn't match their preconceived ideal. I think anyone looking for a cat should get the cat they want, then take care of it responsibly. How do you know that thecat you want isn't at the shelter, waiting for you? Mine was, and I didn't even know I wanted another cat yet - I already had 3. Also, sometimes, what you want isn't necessary what you need, or what needs you. Back when I got my sheltie, I wanted an adult, already trained, large sheltie. I ended up with an adult, never socialized or trained, badly abused, tiny sheltie. She was not at all what I wanted, and I would never have chosen her. My mom gave her to me, not knowing how messed up this dog was. She may not have been what I wanted, but she is a wonderful dog, the happiest, sweetest dog on earth. She is exactly what I needed, and I learned a lot from her. All I am saying is that we shouldn't lock ourselves into a strict definition of what we want. We could be passing up a ton of great animals because we are ded set on how the cat will look. And that really is how we pick most breeds. Temperment is more predictable, but there are many breeds who posess the same basic temperment. The difference is their look. -- Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com |
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"Meghan Noecker" wrote in message ... On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:11:56 +1200, "Ashley" wrote: "Meghan Noecker" wrote in message ... Anyway, he wasn't exactly what I had visualized, and he came along a lot sooner than planned, but he is perfect. And I think anybody looking for a cat could check oout the shelters and find the cat for them, even if the cat doesn't match their preconceived ideal. I think anyone looking for a cat should get the cat they want, then take care of it responsibly. How do you know that thecat you want isn't at the shelter, waiting for you? Easy. Every cat I've ever had has been either from the SPCA or from a home that advertised kittens, or a pet shop. They've been moggies. I've loved (and still love them). However, I know that for my next cats I will be getting an Aby and an oriental shorthair, because I *really* like what I've seen of those cats and they really appeal to me. Could I love another moggie or two? Yes. Will I get one? Who knows. But I *will* be getting those pedigrees, because I want them. Believe it or not, I do know what I want. There's nothing to say a cute domestic shorthair from the SPCA won't also take my fancy - and if it does, I'll get it. Won't stop me getting the pedigrees, tho. All I am saying is that we shouldn't lock ourselves into a strict definition of what we want. We could be passing up a ton of great animals because we are ded set on how the cat will look. Or maybe just because we've set our heart on it, and there's nothing wrong with that. As long as those cats are then lovingly and responsibly cared for, it's fine by me. |
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