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Old July 24th 03, 11:52 AM
MaryL
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"Karen Chuplis" wrote in message
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in article , kate at
wrote on 7/23/03 10:53 PM:

BTW, I understand the reasons why people want to push adoptions. It
is something I have definitely considered, and I have visited many
centers, although I havent connected with any cats. I think it always
something important to think about. I have also been kind of offended
at some of the attitude I have recieved from some of the adoption
coordinators. I must say,I am the ideal cat owner! I work at home, we
dont have kids, I am good with the vet appts and very attentive. It
has really been making me mad! These people are passing up some good
prospects!




Kate, probably that comes from seeing cats returned or worse, finding cats
they adopted out in the kill shelters. I think it just happens to people

who
work in the field.

Karen


Kate,

I agree with what Karen has written. Please re-think this and don't let a
possible adoption disappear because you don't like the attitude of some
workers you have met at shelters. People who work at shelters are often
skeptical because they have seen so many cats that have been returned, or
adoption agreements violated when people abandon their pets or have them
declawed. I adopted Duffy (my blind kitty) in February. He had previously
been adopted to another woman who kept him for two years, then returned him
to the shelter because he found the woman's pet birds and killed one!
Wouldn't it have been sensible to keep birds separate from a cat, even a
blind cat?? The people at the shelter clearly wanted to give Duffy a chance
because he had been there since November, and most would have been
euthanized during that period. However, they could not have kept him much
longer, with kitten season approaching. If I had worked at that shelter,
seeing him in a cage day after day -- for doing something that is natural to
a cat -- would truly have made me angry. He is truly a wonderful and loving
little cat. So, please, think again about getting a cat from a shelter
instead of purchasing one. You would be giving a cat a chance at life (one
that otherwise would probably be euthanized), and you can find just about
any breed or personality you desire if you spend enough time checking at
shelters. Overlook what you may perceive as "attitude" on the part of
shelter workers, and think about how many potential pets they cannot save.

A good place to start looking is at
www.Petfinder.com.

MaryL


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Old July 24th 03, 02:38 PM
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Yngver wrote:
And I also recommend you ignore the
flak you will get here for adopting a
purebred cat.


Sure. No sense in letting ethics or basic humanity get in the way of
selfish desires. It's so much easier to ignore the murder of millions of
innocents. That blood on your hands will wash right off and nobody will
be the wiser.

Megan



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Old July 24th 03, 02:38 PM
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Yngver wrote:
And I also recommend you ignore the
flak you will get here for adopting a
purebred cat.


Sure. No sense in letting ethics or basic humanity get in the way of
selfish desires. It's so much easier to ignore the murder of millions of
innocents. That blood on your hands will wash right off and nobody will
be the wiser.

Megan



"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."

-Edmund Burke

Learn The TRUTH About Declawing
http://www.stopdeclaw.com

Zuzu's Cats Photo Album:
http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22

"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray


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Old July 24th 03, 05:14 PM
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kaeli wrote:
I agree. This is why I adopt from kill shelters, such as the one over on
Western. They aren't so picky.


I adopt from kill shelters because the cats are going to get killed. That
and I despise the attitude that says kill shelters are evil just cause
tehy kill. Some one unfortunately has to do it and the no kill shelters
aren't exactly great on that end, they either refuse the cat cause of no
room, kill ones they find unadoptable before they evne get a chance, or
send them off to the kill shelter themselves. They just don't have the
room to take them all so som eone has to. And since there are so many cats
and not enough room, unfortunately some one has to put them to sleep,
especially when it is mandated they take in every pet surrendered to them.

I'll give my money to a kill shelter over a no kill because they need it
more. Peopel are less willing to give their money over and the more moeny
they have the more resources they have to take care of pets and may be
able to take in more and give the animals more time.

Alice

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kaeli wrote:
I agree. This is why I adopt from kill shelters, such as the one over on
Western. They aren't so picky.


I adopt from kill shelters because the cats are going to get killed. That
and I despise the attitude that says kill shelters are evil just cause
tehy kill. Some one unfortunately has to do it and the no kill shelters
aren't exactly great on that end, they either refuse the cat cause of no
room, kill ones they find unadoptable before they evne get a chance, or
send them off to the kill shelter themselves. They just don't have the
room to take them all so som eone has to. And since there are so many cats
and not enough room, unfortunately some one has to put them to sleep,
especially when it is mandated they take in every pet surrendered to them.

I'll give my money to a kill shelter over a no kill because they need it
more. Peopel are less willing to give their money over and the more moeny
they have the more resources they have to take care of pets and may be
able to take in more and give the animals more time.

Alice

--
The root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren't
worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes 'em testy. ...Bev
|\ _,,,---,,_ Tigress
/,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/tigress
|,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-'
'---''(_/--' `-'\_) Cat by Felix Lee.
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Old July 24th 03, 05:23 PM
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MaryL wrote:
some because they think a particular breed would also guarantee a certain
type of personality, some because they think cats from breeders will be
healthier (ironically, this is not true), and some because of a snobbish
attitude toward what is perceived as "best." I do realize that some very


Actually, I think a lot do becuase they assume that's where you get cats.
I get this impression from working at a pet store that doesn't sell dogs
and people asking what pet stores sell dogs (we have cats from the humane
society and I have yet to ahve anyone ask if there is some where they can
buy a cat instead. Though I've had a few get turned off that thte
application process takes some days). Most that I talk to about buying a
dog seem to at least take my advice in mind not to buy a dog from a pet
store because of support of puppy mills and such and like the advice of
going to the shelter or if they do have their heart set on a breed,
talking to Seattle Purebred Dog rescue or at least finding a responsible
breeder (though I have little faith most ever do so). I've had a few
people at my vet who just want some dog and don't care if it is a
bad breeder and can't find them at the shelter so just looking for the
firs tthey can find.

In general, I find people are a lot more pickier about dog breeds then
they are about cat breeds. In fact, I have to ask people what kind of pet
they have and some one who actually has a cat they know what breed is
really rare. Most people just go, it's a cat. Or a mix, or a
pesty/cute/obnoxious/food loving cat, or a tabby, or a calico. On the
other hand, most people know at least one breed their dog has (it's a GSD
mix, it's got some husky, etc.). People just don't go for cat breeds as
much and I actually wonder where these breeds exist because in general,
evne if some one does say they have a certain rbeed cat, it's usually
abby, siamese, persian, the occasional ragdoll, pixie-bob, bengal, or
himalayan (popularity not in that order. I'd actually say mostly it's
either Siamese, Himmie, or Persian, the others I have jsut seen pop up
more than ocne).

Alice

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The root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren't
worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes 'em testy. ...Bev
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/,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/tigress
|,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-'
'---''(_/--' `-'\_) Cat by Felix Lee.
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Old July 24th 03, 05:23 PM
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MaryL wrote:
some because they think a particular breed would also guarantee a certain
type of personality, some because they think cats from breeders will be
healthier (ironically, this is not true), and some because of a snobbish
attitude toward what is perceived as "best." I do realize that some very


Actually, I think a lot do becuase they assume that's where you get cats.
I get this impression from working at a pet store that doesn't sell dogs
and people asking what pet stores sell dogs (we have cats from the humane
society and I have yet to ahve anyone ask if there is some where they can
buy a cat instead. Though I've had a few get turned off that thte
application process takes some days). Most that I talk to about buying a
dog seem to at least take my advice in mind not to buy a dog from a pet
store because of support of puppy mills and such and like the advice of
going to the shelter or if they do have their heart set on a breed,
talking to Seattle Purebred Dog rescue or at least finding a responsible
breeder (though I have little faith most ever do so). I've had a few
people at my vet who just want some dog and don't care if it is a
bad breeder and can't find them at the shelter so just looking for the
firs tthey can find.

In general, I find people are a lot more pickier about dog breeds then
they are about cat breeds. In fact, I have to ask people what kind of pet
they have and some one who actually has a cat they know what breed is
really rare. Most people just go, it's a cat. Or a mix, or a
pesty/cute/obnoxious/food loving cat, or a tabby, or a calico. On the
other hand, most people know at least one breed their dog has (it's a GSD
mix, it's got some husky, etc.). People just don't go for cat breeds as
much and I actually wonder where these breeds exist because in general,
evne if some one does say they have a certain rbeed cat, it's usually
abby, siamese, persian, the occasional ragdoll, pixie-bob, bengal, or
himalayan (popularity not in that order. I'd actually say mostly it's
either Siamese, Himmie, or Persian, the others I have jsut seen pop up
more than ocne).

Alice

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The root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren't
worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes 'em testy. ...Bev
|\ _,,,---,,_ Tigress
/,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/tigress
|,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-'
'---''(_/--' `-'\_) Cat by Felix Lee.
 




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