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"Karen Chuplis" wrote in message ... in article , kate at wrote on 7/23/03 10:53 PM: BTW, I understand the reasons why people want to push adoptions. It is something I have definitely considered, and I have visited many centers, although I havent connected with any cats. I think it always something important to think about. I have also been kind of offended at some of the attitude I have recieved from some of the adoption coordinators. I must say,I am the ideal cat owner! I work at home, we dont have kids, I am good with the vet appts and very attentive. It has really been making me mad! These people are passing up some good prospects! Kate, probably that comes from seeing cats returned or worse, finding cats they adopted out in the kill shelters. I think it just happens to people who work in the field. Karen Kate, I agree with what Karen has written. Please re-think this and don't let a possible adoption disappear because you don't like the attitude of some workers you have met at shelters. People who work at shelters are often skeptical because they have seen so many cats that have been returned, or adoption agreements violated when people abandon their pets or have them declawed. I adopted Duffy (my blind kitty) in February. He had previously been adopted to another woman who kept him for two years, then returned him to the shelter because he found the woman's pet birds and killed one! Wouldn't it have been sensible to keep birds separate from a cat, even a blind cat?? The people at the shelter clearly wanted to give Duffy a chance because he had been there since November, and most would have been euthanized during that period. However, they could not have kept him much longer, with kitten season approaching. If I had worked at that shelter, seeing him in a cage day after day -- for doing something that is natural to a cat -- would truly have made me angry. He is truly a wonderful and loving little cat. So, please, think again about getting a cat from a shelter instead of purchasing one. You would be giving a cat a chance at life (one that otherwise would probably be euthanized), and you can find just about any breed or personality you desire if you spend enough time checking at shelters. Overlook what you may perceive as "attitude" on the part of shelter workers, and think about how many potential pets they cannot save. A good place to start looking is at www.Petfinder.com. MaryL |
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Yngver wrote:
And I also recommend you ignore the flak you will get here for adopting a purebred cat. Sure. No sense in letting ethics or basic humanity get in the way of selfish desires. It's so much easier to ignore the murder of millions of innocents. That blood on your hands will wash right off and nobody will be the wiser. Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray |
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Yngver wrote:
And I also recommend you ignore the flak you will get here for adopting a purebred cat. Sure. No sense in letting ethics or basic humanity get in the way of selfish desires. It's so much easier to ignore the murder of millions of innocents. That blood on your hands will wash right off and nobody will be the wiser. Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray |
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"kaeli" wrote in message ... In article , enlightened us with... IMO, the reason pet stores and breeders are still so popular is because the no-kill shelters and rescues make it very difficult to get a pet. This is in my experience, so of course, YMMV. ------------------------------------------------- ~kaeli~ Personally, I doubt that this is the reason. There are too many cats and kittens available free from neighbors, newspaper ads, etc. for this to be the explanation. I think some people want purebreds because of appearance, some because they think a particular breed would also guarantee a certain type of personality, some because they think cats from breeders will be healthier (ironically, this is not true), and some because of a snobbish attitude toward what is perceived as "best." I do realize that some very good homes have been rejected by some shelters, but I am dubious about this being a reason why people would turn to purebreds. MaryL Photos of Duffy and Holly (pictorial history of my blind cat Duffy's integration into our household): Duffy, Part I: The Introduction -- http://tinyurl.com/8y54 Duffy, Part II: Life at Home -- http://tinyurl.com/8y56 |
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"kaeli" wrote in message ... In article , enlightened us with... IMO, the reason pet stores and breeders are still so popular is because the no-kill shelters and rescues make it very difficult to get a pet. This is in my experience, so of course, YMMV. ------------------------------------------------- ~kaeli~ Personally, I doubt that this is the reason. There are too many cats and kittens available free from neighbors, newspaper ads, etc. for this to be the explanation. I think some people want purebreds because of appearance, some because they think a particular breed would also guarantee a certain type of personality, some because they think cats from breeders will be healthier (ironically, this is not true), and some because of a snobbish attitude toward what is perceived as "best." I do realize that some very good homes have been rejected by some shelters, but I am dubious about this being a reason why people would turn to purebreds. MaryL Photos of Duffy and Holly (pictorial history of my blind cat Duffy's integration into our household): Duffy, Part I: The Introduction -- http://tinyurl.com/8y54 Duffy, Part II: Life at Home -- http://tinyurl.com/8y56 |
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kaeli wrote:
I agree. This is why I adopt from kill shelters, such as the one over on Western. They aren't so picky. I adopt from kill shelters because the cats are going to get killed. That and I despise the attitude that says kill shelters are evil just cause tehy kill. Some one unfortunately has to do it and the no kill shelters aren't exactly great on that end, they either refuse the cat cause of no room, kill ones they find unadoptable before they evne get a chance, or send them off to the kill shelter themselves. They just don't have the room to take them all so som eone has to. And since there are so many cats and not enough room, unfortunately some one has to put them to sleep, especially when it is mandated they take in every pet surrendered to them. I'll give my money to a kill shelter over a no kill because they need it more. Peopel are less willing to give their money over and the more moeny they have the more resources they have to take care of pets and may be able to take in more and give the animals more time. Alice -- The root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren't worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes 'em testy. ...Bev |\ _,,,---,,_ Tigress /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/tigress |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) Cat by Felix Lee. |
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kaeli wrote:
I agree. This is why I adopt from kill shelters, such as the one over on Western. They aren't so picky. I adopt from kill shelters because the cats are going to get killed. That and I despise the attitude that says kill shelters are evil just cause tehy kill. Some one unfortunately has to do it and the no kill shelters aren't exactly great on that end, they either refuse the cat cause of no room, kill ones they find unadoptable before they evne get a chance, or send them off to the kill shelter themselves. They just don't have the room to take them all so som eone has to. And since there are so many cats and not enough room, unfortunately some one has to put them to sleep, especially when it is mandated they take in every pet surrendered to them. I'll give my money to a kill shelter over a no kill because they need it more. Peopel are less willing to give their money over and the more moeny they have the more resources they have to take care of pets and may be able to take in more and give the animals more time. Alice -- The root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren't worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes 'em testy. ...Bev |\ _,,,---,,_ Tigress /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/tigress |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) Cat by Felix Lee. |
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MaryL wrote:
some because they think a particular breed would also guarantee a certain type of personality, some because they think cats from breeders will be healthier (ironically, this is not true), and some because of a snobbish attitude toward what is perceived as "best." I do realize that some very Actually, I think a lot do becuase they assume that's where you get cats. I get this impression from working at a pet store that doesn't sell dogs and people asking what pet stores sell dogs (we have cats from the humane society and I have yet to ahve anyone ask if there is some where they can buy a cat instead. Though I've had a few get turned off that thte application process takes some days). Most that I talk to about buying a dog seem to at least take my advice in mind not to buy a dog from a pet store because of support of puppy mills and such and like the advice of going to the shelter or if they do have their heart set on a breed, talking to Seattle Purebred Dog rescue or at least finding a responsible breeder (though I have little faith most ever do so). I've had a few people at my vet who just want some dog and don't care if it is a bad breeder and can't find them at the shelter so just looking for the firs tthey can find. In general, I find people are a lot more pickier about dog breeds then they are about cat breeds. In fact, I have to ask people what kind of pet they have and some one who actually has a cat they know what breed is really rare. Most people just go, it's a cat. Or a mix, or a pesty/cute/obnoxious/food loving cat, or a tabby, or a calico. On the other hand, most people know at least one breed their dog has (it's a GSD mix, it's got some husky, etc.). People just don't go for cat breeds as much and I actually wonder where these breeds exist because in general, evne if some one does say they have a certain rbeed cat, it's usually abby, siamese, persian, the occasional ragdoll, pixie-bob, bengal, or himalayan (popularity not in that order. I'd actually say mostly it's either Siamese, Himmie, or Persian, the others I have jsut seen pop up more than ocne). Alice -- The root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren't worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes 'em testy. ...Bev |\ _,,,---,,_ Tigress /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/tigress |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) Cat by Felix Lee. |
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MaryL wrote:
some because they think a particular breed would also guarantee a certain type of personality, some because they think cats from breeders will be healthier (ironically, this is not true), and some because of a snobbish attitude toward what is perceived as "best." I do realize that some very Actually, I think a lot do becuase they assume that's where you get cats. I get this impression from working at a pet store that doesn't sell dogs and people asking what pet stores sell dogs (we have cats from the humane society and I have yet to ahve anyone ask if there is some where they can buy a cat instead. Though I've had a few get turned off that thte application process takes some days). Most that I talk to about buying a dog seem to at least take my advice in mind not to buy a dog from a pet store because of support of puppy mills and such and like the advice of going to the shelter or if they do have their heart set on a breed, talking to Seattle Purebred Dog rescue or at least finding a responsible breeder (though I have little faith most ever do so). I've had a few people at my vet who just want some dog and don't care if it is a bad breeder and can't find them at the shelter so just looking for the firs tthey can find. In general, I find people are a lot more pickier about dog breeds then they are about cat breeds. In fact, I have to ask people what kind of pet they have and some one who actually has a cat they know what breed is really rare. Most people just go, it's a cat. Or a mix, or a pesty/cute/obnoxious/food loving cat, or a tabby, or a calico. On the other hand, most people know at least one breed their dog has (it's a GSD mix, it's got some husky, etc.). People just don't go for cat breeds as much and I actually wonder where these breeds exist because in general, evne if some one does say they have a certain rbeed cat, it's usually abby, siamese, persian, the occasional ragdoll, pixie-bob, bengal, or himalayan (popularity not in that order. I'd actually say mostly it's either Siamese, Himmie, or Persian, the others I have jsut seen pop up more than ocne). Alice -- The root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren't worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes 'em testy. ...Bev |\ _,,,---,,_ Tigress /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/tigress |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) Cat by Felix Lee. |
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