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Old July 25th 03, 06:54 AM
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Yngver wrote:
Not everyone shares your opinion on the
issue of purebred cats, you know.


Those that choose to remain ignorant of their contribution to the
unnecessary deaths of millions or choose to satisfy their own selfish
desires most likely don't. It's the exact same mindset as that which we
often see here with people that are dead set on declawing.

Megan



"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."

-Edmund Burke

Learn The TRUTH About Declawing
http://www.stopdeclaw.com

Zuzu's Cats Photo Album:
http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22

"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray


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Old July 25th 03, 04:20 PM
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Alice wrote:
And maybe you should realize, your
efforts should be put itno stuff that has a
lot more affect, like people who let their
cats roam around unspayed, or want a
litter just for cuteness just to turn around
and give that litter to the shelter (or dump
them at 2 weeks of age). Or the feral cat
group.


You're kidding, right? Have you EVER read this NG????? Good God, your
ignorance is astounding. I have to go to work (gotta support my 25
rescued cats somehow) but here, let me help you by giving you just a few
examples of some of the things I do:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...wson.webtv.net

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...wson.webtv.net

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:...wson.webtv.net

Sure, you can rail on about something
that doesn't really affect the probelm that
much, and not spend as much effort on
stuff that does, or you can spend your
effort on stuff that actually matters a
whole lot more!


So you confirm that the lives of those cats are'nt important to you.
Nope, they just don't matter. How sad is that. Apparently it hasn't
occured to you that saving lives and doing the other things you listed
are NOT mutually exclusive.

Megan (shaking head in disbelief and disgust)



"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."

-Edmund Burke

Learn The TRUTH About Declawing
http://www.stopdeclaw.com

Zuzu's Cats Photo Album:
http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22

"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray


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Old July 25th 03, 04:20 PM
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Alice wrote:
And maybe you should realize, your
efforts should be put itno stuff that has a
lot more affect, like people who let their
cats roam around unspayed, or want a
litter just for cuteness just to turn around
and give that litter to the shelter (or dump
them at 2 weeks of age). Or the feral cat
group.


You're kidding, right? Have you EVER read this NG????? Good God, your
ignorance is astounding. I have to go to work (gotta support my 25
rescued cats somehow) but here, let me help you by giving you just a few
examples of some of the things I do:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...wson.webtv.net

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...wson.webtv.net

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:...wson.webtv.net

Sure, you can rail on about something
that doesn't really affect the probelm that
much, and not spend as much effort on
stuff that does, or you can spend your
effort on stuff that actually matters a
whole lot more!


So you confirm that the lives of those cats are'nt important to you.
Nope, they just don't matter. How sad is that. Apparently it hasn't
occured to you that saving lives and doing the other things you listed
are NOT mutually exclusive.

Megan (shaking head in disbelief and disgust)



"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."

-Edmund Burke

Learn The TRUTH About Declawing
http://www.stopdeclaw.com

Zuzu's Cats Photo Album:
http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22

"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray


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Old July 26th 03, 02:44 PM
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| How do you know they are purebred?
|
| If it looks, acts, walks and smells purebred, it's purebred enough to
| have come from purebred parents or parentage. Some come in with
| pedigrees, as well.


Besides that, we know ours are purebred because the pond scum people who
relinquish them are all too happy to provide the papers, and are more than
happy to stand there and say "We paid $500 for her, and we *really* don't want
to give her up, but insert lame excuse. They act like they're giving us some
kind of "gift." BTW, they get adopted real quick. Which *does* displace a
shelter cat--people come in looking for any cat, spot the purebred and want
that one. That's why we turn them over to breed rescues if there is one
available. We had a Korat recently and couldn't locate a breed rescue closeby
for it.

Sherry
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Old July 26th 03, 02:44 PM
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| How do you know they are purebred?
|
| If it looks, acts, walks and smells purebred, it's purebred enough to
| have come from purebred parents or parentage. Some come in with
| pedigrees, as well.


Besides that, we know ours are purebred because the pond scum people who
relinquish them are all too happy to provide the papers, and are more than
happy to stand there and say "We paid $500 for her, and we *really* don't want
to give her up, but insert lame excuse. They act like they're giving us some
kind of "gift." BTW, they get adopted real quick. Which *does* displace a
shelter cat--people come in looking for any cat, spot the purebred and want
that one. That's why we turn them over to breed rescues if there is one
available. We had a Korat recently and couldn't locate a breed rescue closeby
for it.

Sherry
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Old July 26th 03, 04:57 PM
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"Sherry " wrote in message
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| How do you know they are purebred?
|
| If it looks, acts, walks and smells purebred, it's purebred enough to
| have come from purebred parents or parentage. Some come in with
| pedigrees, as well.


Besides that, we know ours are purebred because the pond scum people who
relinquish them are all too happy to provide the papers, and are more than
happy to stand there and say "We paid $500 for her, and we *really* don't

want
to give her up, but insert lame excuse. They act like they're giving us

some
kind of "gift." BTW, they get adopted real quick. Which *does* displace a
shelter cat--people come in looking for any cat, spot the purebred and

want
that one. That's why we turn them over to breed rescues if there is one
available. We had a Korat recently and couldn't locate a breed rescue

closeby
for it.

Sherry



I think pedigree/purebred cat breeders, are at least keeping their cats
under control.... eg not releasing papers on kittens sold until proof from
vets they have been neutered, many only sell as pets not for breeding, (non
active papers.)
People pay a lot more for potential stud/queens, and they do not let their
cats roam about getting pregnant as much! maybe due to the sheer snobbery of
it all!

I think its the people who just buy the cute little moggie they see at a
mates house, they buy it with all good *intentions* to start with, then
she/he gets out always just before they were just about to take it to the
vets to be neutered!!!!! and then a litter arrives! unwanted kittens, then
their mates take one on and so it goes on! most winding up in shelter some
being pregnant too :-(




--
Luv'n'Stuff
*~*SooZy*~*
http://community.webshots.com/user/ragdollcatsuk


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Old July 26th 03, 04:57 PM
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"Sherry " wrote in message
...
| How do you know they are purebred?
|
| If it looks, acts, walks and smells purebred, it's purebred enough to
| have come from purebred parents or parentage. Some come in with
| pedigrees, as well.


Besides that, we know ours are purebred because the pond scum people who
relinquish them are all too happy to provide the papers, and are more than
happy to stand there and say "We paid $500 for her, and we *really* don't

want
to give her up, but insert lame excuse. They act like they're giving us

some
kind of "gift." BTW, they get adopted real quick. Which *does* displace a
shelter cat--people come in looking for any cat, spot the purebred and

want
that one. That's why we turn them over to breed rescues if there is one
available. We had a Korat recently and couldn't locate a breed rescue

closeby
for it.

Sherry



I think pedigree/purebred cat breeders, are at least keeping their cats
under control.... eg not releasing papers on kittens sold until proof from
vets they have been neutered, many only sell as pets not for breeding, (non
active papers.)
People pay a lot more for potential stud/queens, and they do not let their
cats roam about getting pregnant as much! maybe due to the sheer snobbery of
it all!

I think its the people who just buy the cute little moggie they see at a
mates house, they buy it with all good *intentions* to start with, then
she/he gets out always just before they were just about to take it to the
vets to be neutered!!!!! and then a litter arrives! unwanted kittens, then
their mates take one on and so it goes on! most winding up in shelter some
being pregnant too :-(




--
Luv'n'Stuff
*~*SooZy*~*
http://community.webshots.com/user/ragdollcatsuk


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Old July 27th 03, 02:22 AM
Sherry
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Up close, you can't miss it, and it's really ugly. It's also
jarring,
in that it's the wrong ear too - one can't help being reminded what

a
complete botch the vet tech accomplished.


That's exactly what Bonnie's ear looks like. Hers was tipped when
they thought I was going to release her. I don't know what they're
supposed to look like.





Up close, you can't miss it, and it's really ugly. It's also

jarring,
in that it's the wrong ear too - one can't help being reminded what

a
complete botch the vet tech accomplished.


She sure is a beautiful cat though. She looks "wise." :-)

Sherry
 




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