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Steve Crane wrote:
wrote in message news:EsFkI7LVLls8-pn2-u18lpq1y6dLw@localhost... On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:57:03 UTC, frlpwr wrote: To bring yourself a little closer to wisdom, try reading "Guns, Germs, and Steel", a Pulitzer Prize winning book by Jared Diamond. It's subtitle is "The Fates of Human Societies". You might even learn enough to justify posting here again... Excellent book by the way - everyone ought to read it. Yes, but a book about cultural development and social change, not evolution, the process of biological morphology. |
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Steve Crane wrote:
wrote in message news:EsFkI7LVLls8-pn2-u18lpq1y6dLw@localhost... On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:57:03 UTC, frlpwr wrote: To bring yourself a little closer to wisdom, try reading "Guns, Germs, and Steel", a Pulitzer Prize winning book by Jared Diamond. It's subtitle is "The Fates of Human Societies". You might even learn enough to justify posting here again... Excellent book by the way - everyone ought to read it. Yes, but a book about cultural development and social change, not evolution, the process of biological morphology. |
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Steve Crane wrote:
(-L.) wrote in message om... wrote in message news:EsFkI7LVLls8-pn2-7F3W3POrrgYn@localhost... Never heard a Jew use the "dominion over animals" rhetoric...obviously he may be the first, but I doubt it. It's mainline bible-thumper crap. -L. Man does indeed have dominance over animals - Indeed. It is one thing to exercise power over others and quite another to claim that this naked power is supernaturally mandated. Groups of men have dominance over other groups of men. Does this make slavery, subjugation and repression part of god's plan, too? Now you've heard a Jew make the claim. I have to wonder at the level of education of someone who is so illiterate they are not aware that in 90% of the world's religions on earth the same claim is made in one form or another. I have to wonder at the level of education of someone who would try to pass off the classic logical fallacy, Appeal to the Popular (Everbody Does It), to justify the forcible domination of other species. Only in the fringe whacko lunatic arena has anyone claimed otherwise. Most progressive movements have been labelled "fringe whacko lunatic" by their detractors. It is certainly your choice to choose secularism as your "religion", but please do not attempt to impose that upon others, nor suggest that it should be imposed upon the millions of men who believed in one faith or another and died to allow you the freedom to express your childish foolishness. Another logical fallacy, Appeal to Pity. |
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Steve Crane wrote:
(-L.) wrote in message om... wrote in message news:EsFkI7LVLls8-pn2-7F3W3POrrgYn@localhost... Never heard a Jew use the "dominion over animals" rhetoric...obviously he may be the first, but I doubt it. It's mainline bible-thumper crap. -L. Man does indeed have dominance over animals - Indeed. It is one thing to exercise power over others and quite another to claim that this naked power is supernaturally mandated. Groups of men have dominance over other groups of men. Does this make slavery, subjugation and repression part of god's plan, too? Now you've heard a Jew make the claim. I have to wonder at the level of education of someone who is so illiterate they are not aware that in 90% of the world's religions on earth the same claim is made in one form or another. I have to wonder at the level of education of someone who would try to pass off the classic logical fallacy, Appeal to the Popular (Everbody Does It), to justify the forcible domination of other species. Only in the fringe whacko lunatic arena has anyone claimed otherwise. Most progressive movements have been labelled "fringe whacko lunatic" by their detractors. It is certainly your choice to choose secularism as your "religion", but please do not attempt to impose that upon others, nor suggest that it should be imposed upon the millions of men who believed in one faith or another and died to allow you the freedom to express your childish foolishness. Another logical fallacy, Appeal to Pity. |
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(GAUBSTER2) wrote in message ...
Just how did the perfect mutation occur that allows for things such as our senses, immune system, etc? Not "perfect" mutation, dear - multiple mutations which are then preserved during selection. So just how are these mutations "preserved during selection"? Is there some force that "knows" when to keep the desirable traits and reject the undesirable ones? No, Dingleberry. Only the "fittest" of the species pass on their genes - the mutations within those indiviuals are preserved and passed along. It's called NATURAL SELECTION. The mutations are enriched in subsequent generations, if they offer a benefit to the individuals (and thus, the species). You're asking an awful lot out of random events! "You're" not "asking" anything of them - they just happen and are passed on to future generations, or not, dependant upon whether they are those which are selected for. Sigh. Do you really think I have the time or inclination to explain the theory of evolution to you? You really need to do some reading. Here are some author's you really should look into: Darwin, Wallace, Galton Darwin's Primer: http://www.literature.org/authors/da...s-6th-edition/ Once you have mastered that, these may be of greater interest: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...roduct-details http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...roduct-details Run along, now... -L. |
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