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In , "bewtifulfreak"
wrote: | "Arjun Ray" wrote in message | | Thus, declawing requires amputation of the distal phalanx. The | problem with partial amputation (yes, sawing through rather than | disjointing) is that claw regrowth can happen - almost always in | misshapen form. | | You mean with the laser declawing? It's my understanding that the laser is only doing what used to be done with guillotine-like scissors (i.e. cut through the tendons, cartilage, etc, connecting the distal phalanx to the rest of the finger/toe, to disjoint it). I suppose it's more "surgical" in that sense. Declawing has had evolution in its procedures: things like "scraping out the claw root" and "sawing off enough of the bone" are older approaches which have failed - due to unacceptable incidence of claw regrowth - and have been abandoned in favor of complete disjointing, which is actually a "simpler" procedure overall. Whether it's done with a knife-edge or a light beam is a quiddity. | This sounds at *least* as bad as having the toe taken completely off! Well, for a cat, that's basically what it is. We walk on our feet, distributing the load from toes to heel. A cat walks on its distal phalanges. The bone is at an angle to the second phalanx, not end on as in our fingers or toes, sort of like a shoe, and lies flat along its length when the cat walks, with the other bones arranged upward in an arc. Removing that bone transfers the entire pressure onto the point of the now exposed second phalanx. The adaptation is to the increase the arc from the wrist downward to make as much of the second (and even the third) phalanx lie flat along the ground. In heavier cats (such as the big cats) this can lead to collapse all the way up to the wrist. See this before-after video of a lion whose suffering was alleviated by reconstructive surgery: http://www.gt.net/~pproject/naala/kona.mov (It's referenced from http://www.pawproject.com/html/default.asp ) |
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In , "bewtifulfreak"
wrote: | "Arjun Ray" wrote in message | | Thus, declawing requires amputation of the distal phalanx. The | problem with partial amputation (yes, sawing through rather than | disjointing) is that claw regrowth can happen - almost always in | misshapen form. | | You mean with the laser declawing? It's my understanding that the laser is only doing what used to be done with guillotine-like scissors (i.e. cut through the tendons, cartilage, etc, connecting the distal phalanx to the rest of the finger/toe, to disjoint it). I suppose it's more "surgical" in that sense. Declawing has had evolution in its procedures: things like "scraping out the claw root" and "sawing off enough of the bone" are older approaches which have failed - due to unacceptable incidence of claw regrowth - and have been abandoned in favor of complete disjointing, which is actually a "simpler" procedure overall. Whether it's done with a knife-edge or a light beam is a quiddity. | This sounds at *least* as bad as having the toe taken completely off! Well, for a cat, that's basically what it is. We walk on our feet, distributing the load from toes to heel. A cat walks on its distal phalanges. The bone is at an angle to the second phalanx, not end on as in our fingers or toes, sort of like a shoe, and lies flat along its length when the cat walks, with the other bones arranged upward in an arc. Removing that bone transfers the entire pressure onto the point of the now exposed second phalanx. The adaptation is to the increase the arc from the wrist downward to make as much of the second (and even the third) phalanx lie flat along the ground. In heavier cats (such as the big cats) this can lead to collapse all the way up to the wrist. See this before-after video of a lion whose suffering was alleviated by reconstructive surgery: http://www.gt.net/~pproject/naala/kona.mov (It's referenced from http://www.pawproject.com/html/default.asp ) |
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From: Karen Chuplis
BrandyÂ*Alexandre at ? wrote on 8/11/03 11:10 AM: bewtifulfreak wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: England Scotland Wales Italy France Germany Austria Switzerland Norway Sweden Netherlands Northern Ireland Ireland Denmark Finland Slovenia Portugal Belgium Spain Brazil Australia New Zealand Countries where it is not: U.S. Canada You forgot: I'd lay you BIG odds that declawing is not done in those countries either. Especially poor nations. Declawing is a "luxury" item just as it is "unnecessary". You *really* think that Nigerians haul their cats off to the vet for declawing? More fantasy. Karen LMAO! The more Brandy posts, the stupider she becomes. Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm |
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"Karen Chuplis" wrote in message
... You forgot: I'd lay you BIG odds that declawing is not done in those countries either. Especially poor nations. Declawing is a "luxury" item just as it is "unnecessary". You *really* think that Nigerians haul their cats off to the vet for declawing? More fantasy. Thank you, Karen, for saying what I was thinking but couldn't quite put into words. Ann -- http://www.angelfire.com/ca/bewtifulfreak |
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"Karen Chuplis" wrote in message
... You forgot: I'd lay you BIG odds that declawing is not done in those countries either. Especially poor nations. Declawing is a "luxury" item just as it is "unnecessary". You *really* think that Nigerians haul their cats off to the vet for declawing? More fantasy. Thank you, Karen, for saying what I was thinking but couldn't quite put into words. Ann -- http://www.angelfire.com/ca/bewtifulfreak |
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You might want to check out this article as well: http://www.listnow.com/helpingpaws/a...ticle_175.html That is just so sad Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm |
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You might want to check out this article as well: http://www.listnow.com/helpingpaws/a...ticle_175.html That is just so sad Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm |
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"Arjun Ray" wrote in message
... In , "bewtifulfreak" wrote: | This sounds at *least* as bad as having the toe taken completely off! Well, for a cat, that's basically what it is. Of course. What I meant is that having the claw removed only at the base and then having it grow back all skewed and deformed sounds just as, if not more, painful than having the whole toe removed. But no matter how it's done, besides the surgical pain, it can clearly cause a lot of discomfort in making the cat walk in ways it's muscles weren't made to. The example's been used before, but if we had to walk without our toes, not only would we be off balance, but it would put undue pressure on the front of the foot. See this before-after video of a lion whose suffering was alleviated by reconstructive surgery: I'm not able to access it at the moment for some reason, but will try again later. Thank you again for explaining things in such detail. Ann -- http://www.angelfire.com/ca/bewtifulfreak |
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"Arjun Ray" wrote in message
... In , "bewtifulfreak" wrote: | This sounds at *least* as bad as having the toe taken completely off! Well, for a cat, that's basically what it is. Of course. What I meant is that having the claw removed only at the base and then having it grow back all skewed and deformed sounds just as, if not more, painful than having the whole toe removed. But no matter how it's done, besides the surgical pain, it can clearly cause a lot of discomfort in making the cat walk in ways it's muscles weren't made to. The example's been used before, but if we had to walk without our toes, not only would we be off balance, but it would put undue pressure on the front of the foot. See this before-after video of a lion whose suffering was alleviated by reconstructive surgery: I'm not able to access it at the moment for some reason, but will try again later. Thank you again for explaining things in such detail. Ann -- http://www.angelfire.com/ca/bewtifulfreak |
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