Houston Humane Society is advertising front paw declawing!!

"Dan Espen" wrote in message
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"William Graham" writes:

That would work if it weren't for the dog....This dog is something
else.....Just a puppy, but big as a house, and on the run all the
time.....He would scamper up any staircase that would work for the cat.
but
the dog is growing up.....Maybe he'll settle down in a year or two......

I had a friend with an Irish Setter that was always on the move.
Well, that's putting it lightly.
I personally saw that dog circle a room mostly running on the walls.
He ran straight across my chest while I was sitting down.

He often said the dog would eventually settle down.
The dog lived to old age.

He settled down about a month before he died.

Reminds me of the dog my sister had many years ago....She was a civilian
employee of the US Army, and she was stationed in Teheran. She got "Pandy"
on the streets of that city when he was a puppy....He grew enormous, and had
this penchant for killing other dogs.....He got loose once, and ran down the
street (In San Diego, California) killing neighborhood dogs as he went.....
He would do the same thing....Run around and around her living room on the
walls.

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"James" wrote in message

In the South male babies routinely get the penis chop even though
they're not Jewish. Declawing a cat couldn't be worse than that.

That's wrong actually, In reality, declawing is several orders of pain
worse
than circumcision.


Yes. It's the same as if you had the tips of all your fingers cut off.....If
they don't go that far, the claws will grow back.

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"James" wrote in message
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Not everone has the time to care for cats with claws.


In brief, cats come complete with claws on all four feet. If you can't
deal with this, don't have a cat. It's as simple as that for me.
Declawing is illegal in Europe. It should be illegal everywhere.

T

That's right.....If you want a cat without claws, then get a snake.....Cats
need their claws....They are an integral part of the animals protection
system, and general lifestyle....Without claws, they can neither protect
themselves, nor even climb trees and fences to get away from dogs, and other
predators.

"James" wrote in message
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Not everone has the time to care for cats with claws

Then they shouldn't have a cat. It takes me about 10 minutes every week or
two to trim the claws of my 7 cats. Lets see--10 foreclaws and 8 hind claws
per cat equals 18 claws per cat times 7 cats which equals 126 claws in
total. 10 minutes. Hardly a valid reason to declaw.

.. You might think
people should have declawed cat but what are you going to do with all
the excess cats?

Hard to follow your "logic" here.

You know it's not going to be let running loose outdoors.

Many idiots let them out even if they're declawed and they're much more
vulnerable than a regular alley cat.


You know it's not going to be killed because it scratched something
very expensive.

Maybe, maybe not. People that are that concerned about their furniture
might also have the cat euthanized if it peed outside its litter box or if
it keeps them up at night or whatever.

It might not have claws but it's better than being an alley cat.

That's like comparing apples and oranges. How about keeping a cat inside
with all claws intact, thank you very much. How about keeping its nails
trimmed. How about training it to use a scratching post.


Do you tell the cat you won't let it get declawed but you'll let it
get put to sleep? You know no matter how much you donate to no kill
shelters thousands of cat regularly get jabbed with a lethal cocktail.

Huh?


In the South male babies routinely get the penis chop even though
they're not Jewish. Declawing a cat couldn't be worse than that.

Let's chop off the tips of your fingers and toes and then let you walk
around on them. You really can't compare cutting off some skin with
declawing. Again, it's like comparing apples to oranges. You need to
educate yourself about declawing. It's mutilation, pure and simple and
strictly for the convenience of the owner.

Bonnie

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On 9 Mar, 22:58, "James" wrote:
Not everone has the time to care for cats with claws. You might think
people should have declawed cat but what are you going to do with all
the excess cats?

You know it's not going to be let running loose outdoors.

You know it's not going to be killed because it scratched something
very expensive.

It might not have claws but it's better than being an alley cat.

Do you tell the cat you won't let it get declawed but you'll let it
get put to sleep? You know no matter how much you donate to no kill
shelters thousands of cat regularly get jabbed with a lethal cocktail.

In the South male babies routinely get the penis chop even though
they're not Jewish. Declawing a cat couldn't be worse than that.

i will try to stay calm but i can't promise anything....

firstly, i do nto have loads of spare time to clip and 'care' for my
cats claws, but what i do do is provide them with scratching posts and
ample outside space in order for them to deal with their claws
themselves ie scratch things and remove old claw sheaths etc.

secondly, maybe if you anal americans unclenched your buttocks for a

It's not just "Americans" who mistreat animals....As a matter of fact, pets
here in the US usually go top drawer, and get the best treatment anywhere.
The Chinese and many peoples in the Mid East are much tougher on animals
than we are. You are probably watching too many episodes on "Animal
Planet"......so all you see are the mistreated American animals. If you knew
about all the ones in other countries, you would change your mind.....

i will try to stay calm but i can't promise anything....



Emily:

Way to go on the rational discourse. You make persuasive arguments, not
the least of which that it is wise to offer social commentary on Americans
and find a rather strained way to inject politics into a discussion about
declawing cats.

Jimbo, please pay attention:

Not everone has the time to care for cats with claws. You might think
people should have declawed cat but what are you going to do with all
the excess cats?

What does declawing have to do with spaying and neutering? They are, and
should be, two entirely separate surgical procedures.

You know it's not going to be let running loose outdoors.

Who's to say it won't escape, i.e., charging the door when it is opened?

You know it's not going to be killed because it scratched something
very expensive.

No, but it could be killed for BITING instead of scratching. Yes, declawed
cats often turn into biters.

It might not have claws but it's better than being an alley cat.

How do you justify ripping off a digit of your cat's front paws? We're
talking AMPUTATION here!

Do you tell the cat you won't let it get declawed but you'll let it
get put to sleep? You know no matter how much you donate to no kill
shelters thousands of cat regularly get jabbed with a lethal cocktail.

I tell the cat first you have to learn some house manners, a component of
which is to NOT scratch the furniturre.

In the South male babies routinely get the penis chop even though
they're not Jewish. Declawing a cat couldn't be worse than that.

Having a licensed physician, or in come cases a "moyle" remove the foreskin
of the penis does not leave said male babies defenseless in the wild.
Removing a cat's claws does!

I'd rather have a ripped up leather sofa than a cat without claws!

Debby Hanoka
dhanokaatearthlinkdotnet

In brief, cats come complete with claws on all four feet. If you can't
deal with this, don't have a cat. It's as simple as that for me.
Declawing is illegal in Europe. It should be illegal everywhere.

Here here! It's also illegal in West Hollywood, California, and more and
more American vets each year are refusing to declaw cats at all.

Debby Hanoka
dhanokaatearthlinkdotnet

"James" wrote in message
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Not everone has the time to care for cats with claws. You might think
people should have declawed cat but what are you going to do with all
the excess cats?

You know it's not going to be let running loose outdoors.

You know it's not going to be killed because it scratched something
very expensive.

It might not have claws but it's better than being an alley cat.

Do you tell the cat you won't let it get declawed but you'll let it
get put to sleep? You know no matter how much you donate to no kill
shelters thousands of cat regularly get jabbed with a lethal cocktail.


In the South male babies routinely get the penis chop even though
they're not Jewish. Declawing a cat couldn't be worse than that.

They should chop off your penis, idiot.

On Mar 9, 6:56?pm, "22brix" wrote:

People that are that concerned about their furniture
might also have the cat euthanized if it peed outside its litter box or if
it keeps them up at night or whatever.

Absolutely true. And the ironic thing is, a botched declaw can cause
the cat to live in pain the rest of its life--which in turns makes the
poor thing neurotic and it *does* start peeing outside the box. It's
also quite common for a declawed cat to become a biter.

Sherry