Is it wrong to want another purebred?

"Cheryl" wrote in message
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On Mon 04 Apr 2005 04:16:25a, -L. wrote in
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Oh what the hell. I'm starting to think B0b Brenchly has gotten
into his wife's dresses again.

LOL!! Whatever happened to ol' Bob-o?

-L.



I don't miss him. I was just thinking while skimming over this
thread how cute it is to see all the newbies engaging in the age-
old cat ng indoor/outdoor debate. Awwwwww yawn


You are such a condescending piece of ****. *shaking my head*
If only you had anything to actually feel superior about.

Ashley wrote:
"kitkat" wrote in message
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Ashley wrote:

Cats have no predators here. Cats *are* the predators.

That is actually kinda cool!


Not if you're a skink, gecko or kiwi chick it ain't!


Well clearly. But I was just thinking of it strictly from the cat's
point of view.

Phil P. wrote:
cats are crepuscular

Heh. That sounds like an insult.

Luna! You crepuscular bag of fur!

"Steve G" wrote in message
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kaeli wrote:
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You are _such_ a ****head sometimes.

Me mam said that on occasion of my birth. Rectal delivery, y'see.


Well, at least you're honest about some things.

"kitkat" wrote in message
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Ashley wrote:
"kitkat" wrote in message
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Ashley wrote:

Cats have no predators here. Cats *are* the predators.

That is actually kinda cool!


Not if you're a skink, gecko or kiwi chick it ain't!
Well clearly. But I was just thinking of it strictly from the cat's point
of view.

Yes, I understand that :-). They do think it's rather groovy. One of the
funniest things I've ever seen is the way one of my cats reacts to cicadas
(which are not in any way endangered, and which we don't have to worry about
at all). He catches them, then holds them in his mouth, with his mouth not
*quite* closed, just closed enough for the cicada not to be able to escape.

The cicada, of course, starts rasping in distress, and rasps, and rasps and
rasps. And Tahi wonders around with an increasingly glazed look moving
across his face, as the cicada rasps more, and the vibrations increase. He
obviously takes great sensual delight in it, and is really funny to watch.
Given that he is unable to have any actual sexual pleasure, I tend to think
of this as Tahi's organic vibrator ...

;-)

Ashley wrote:
"kitkat" wrote in message
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Ashley wrote:

"kitkat" wrote in message
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Ashley wrote:


Cats have no predators here. Cats *are* the predators.

That is actually kinda cool!


Not if you're a skink, gecko or kiwi chick it ain't!

Well clearly. But I was just thinking of it strictly from the cat's point
of view.


Yes, I understand that :-). They do think it's rather groovy. One of the
funniest things I've ever seen is the way one of my cats reacts to cicadas
(which are not in any way endangered, and which we don't have to worry about
at all). He catches them, then holds them in his mouth, with his mouth not
*quite* closed, just closed enough for the cicada not to be able to escape.

The cicada, of course, starts rasping in distress, and rasps, and rasps and
rasps. And Tahi wonders around with an increasingly glazed look moving
across his face, as the cicada rasps more, and the vibrations increase. He
obviously takes great sensual delight in it, and is really funny to watch.
Given that he is unable to have any actual sexual pleasure, I tend to think
of this as Tahi's organic vibrator ...

;-)


Great visual!!!!!!!!!!!

I remember some kind of huge moth got in our house and Luna went NUTS. I
thought it was a friggen bat because that ****er was so big. It got
locked in a closet and Luna was trying to bat at it and get it from
under the door. When it got out and about, Luna chased it and grabbed it
in her mouth a few times, but it always managed to get away. I guess
since she is an indoor kitty, her hunting skills are not too sharp.
Anyway, my husband ended up killing said huge moth and they all lived
happily ever after. I am positive that was the biggest thing Luna ever
got to stalk in my house!

"kitkat" wrote in message
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Phil P. wrote:
cats are crepuscular

Heh. That sounds like an insult.

Luna! You crepuscular bag of fur!

It does. It sounds like a muscular pimple.

"kitkat" wrote in message
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I remember some kind of huge moth got in our house and Luna went NUTS. I
thought it was a friggen bat because that ****er was so big. It got locked
in a closet and Luna was trying to bat at it and get it from under the
door. When it got out and about, Luna chased it and grabbed it in her
mouth a few times, but it always managed to get away. I guess since she is
an indoor kitty, her hunting skills are not too sharp. Anyway, my husband
ended up killing said huge moth and they all lived happily ever after. I
am positive that was the biggest thing Luna ever got to stalk in my house!

You can imagine the war story, should you ever introduce a new kitten.

"Now, you just stand by me. I know how to hunt flying monsters, and I have
staff who will dispatch them for me. Why, there was this time ..."

In article ,
enlightened us with...

One of the points the indoors-only brigade keep misrepresenting is cats'
propensity to roam. Yes, they can roam a couple of miles, and some do. Those
some are unneutered toms looking for a mate. Neutered pets, who know their
territory is where the food is, and who encounter neighbouring cats (or
dogs) when they step over boundary lines "roam" in a much-diminished area,
one that can frequently be measured in square metres, rather than
kilometres.

Your place sounds like a nice place for cats to live, as long as they stay
away from the road. I bet my Rowan would think she was in kitty heaven. I
think she's a reincarnated barn cat or something. LOL

I don't honestly know how likely cats are to roam -- I just know what I see
on the side of the road some days and how I'd feel if it were MY cat lying
there unmoving. Heck, I tend to cry even though it isn't my cat. And I blame
the owner for letting that cat roam. If the cat didn't roam, it wouldn't have
tried to cross the street, you know?

Like I said before, though, I have no problems with letting cats outside if
they actually stay on their property and nothing bad tends to come on the
property to eat them (especially here, as we have quite a few predators in
non-urban areas and stray dogs in urban areas).
My problem with the issue is that I don't know how likely a cat is to stay on
the property. Many others don't know, either, or assume they do know and then
find out they were wrong when they come home to a flattened (or just missing)
Fluffy. Of course this is much less likely to happen if you're home and kind
of keeping an eye on things. Accidents DO happen and I try not to be TOO
paranoid, but no matter how much I trusted my cat to come inside when called
and to stay away from the road, I just could never let her out when I wasn't
home.

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"Meghan Noecker" wrote in message
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On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:28:28 +1200, "Ashley"
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They can be startled by the lights at night. They are also less easily
seen
by drivers at night. I said cats develop road sense, which they do. That
doesn't mean they become invincible, which I never claimed.


But you did claim that they stay away from cars, and they have to be
rather close to get hit. And cats have better sight than we do at
night, so cars shouldn't be sneaking up on them.

It sounds to me like the only real difference is the driver's ability
to see the cat. And that means that thecats are just as close in teh
daytime as at night. The driver just has more time to swerve or hit
the brakes. Doesn't sound like the cats are street smart at all.


I can't comment further. What I have read is that a) they can be startled by
lights and b) they are more difficult to see. Cats *do* develop street
smarts, just as humans do, but, no sometimes that's not enough. And if it's
not enough, it's likely to happen at night. You will find every cat welfare
agency in every country in which indoor-outdoor cats are the norm
emphasising this.




It doesn't offend me at all. The point is that the cats are seen as
the bad guy in terms of your wildlife. And that means that the
wildlife fanatics probably aren't too keen on cats. And they wouldn't
mind poisoning a few.


Indeed in wilderness areas, that *is* the case. But they tend to be trapped
and shot, rather than poisoned. In urban areas, it is not the case.


Did you see the posts about shooting feral cats in Wisconisn? It's
supposed to protect the songbirds.

When I said it makes sense, I mean that people don't see cats as
something to protect, since they are actually a problem for wildlife.
So, therefore, there isn't going to be a mentality of protecting them.


The attitude is different.

In New Zealand, it depends on where the cat is. A cat in a wilderness area,
if caught, will be destroyed. That is an entirely different thing from pet
cats in towns and cities, or even on farms.