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OT - Opera
On 22/08/2011 4:45 PM, CatNipped wrote: I know I'm a no-class hick for believing so, but opera, to me, sounds like so much shrieking. snip A friend dragged me along to see a local, amateur, production of 'La Traviata' because I had similarly pooh-poohed opera and she thought I needed an education in 'culcha' - since she paid for the ticket, I really couldn't say 'no' (and besides, and night out is welcome these days). I was prepared to 'politely sit through it' for the sake of my friend, but wasn't expecting to get much out of it. I entered entirely skeptical. I left sobbing. Never again will I trash opera. Its still not my music of choice, but *wow*, an Opera singer can seriously knock the living daylights out of almost all pop/rock singers with their skill and talent. And the lady doing the lead, like all of them, were *amateurs*. And I say that as a uncultured hick, too. Although unable to afford it at the moment, I would love to see a professional rendition at the likes of the opera house. I have thoroughly changed my mind - and my friend is very pleased with my 'conversion'. LOL. Yowie |
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OT - Opera
On 22/08/2011 4:45 PM, CatNipped wrote:
I know I'm a no-class hick for believing so, but opera, to me, sounds like so much shrieking. snip A friend dragged me along to see a local, amateur, production of 'La Traviata' because I had similarly pooh-poohed opera and she thought I needed an education in 'culcha' - since she paid for the ticket, I really couldn't say 'no' (and besides, and night out is welcome these days). I was prepared to 'politely sit through it' for the sake of my friend, but wasn't expecting to get much out of it. I entered entirely skeptical. I left sobbing. Never again will I trash opera. Its still not my music of choice, but *wow*, an Opera singer can seriously knock the living daylights out of almost all pop/rock singers with their skill and talent. And the lady doing the lead, like all of them, were *amateurs*. And I say that as a uncultured hick, too. Although unable to afford it at the moment, I would love to see a professional rendition at the likes of the opera house. I have thoroughly changed my mind - and my friend is very pleased with my 'conversion'. LOL. Yowie |
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OT - Opera
On Aug 22, 5:11*pm, Yowie wrote:
On 22/08/2011 4:45 PM, CatNipped wrote: I know I'm a no-class hick for believing so, but opera, to me, sounds like so much shrieking. snip A friend dragged me along to see a local, amateur, production of 'La Traviata' because I had similarly pooh-poohed opera and she thought I needed an education in 'culcha' - since she paid for the ticket, I really couldn't say 'no' (and besides, and night out is welcome these days). I was prepared to 'politely sit through it' for the sake of my friend, but wasn't expecting to get much out of it. I entered entirely skeptical. I left sobbing. Never again *will I trash opera. Its still not my music of choice, but *wow*, an Opera singer can seriously knock the living daylights out of almost all pop/rock singers with their skill and talent. And the lady doing the lead, like all of them, were *amateurs*. And I say that as a uncultured hick, too. Although unable to afford it at the moment, I would love to see a professional rendition at the likes of the opera house. I have thoroughly changed my mind - and my friend is very pleased with my 'conversion'. LOL. Yowie Neat story! Your experience reminded me of Julia Roberts in "Pretty Woman". Professional opera is on my bucket list, too. :-) Sherry |
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"Yowie" wrote in message
... On 22/08/2011 4:45 PM, CatNipped wrote: I know I'm a no-class hick for believing so, but opera, to me, sounds like so much shrieking. snip A friend dragged me along to see a local, amateur, production of 'La Traviata' because I had similarly pooh-poohed opera and she thought I needed an education in 'culcha' - since she paid for the ticket, I really couldn't say 'no' (and besides, and night out is welcome these days). I was prepared to 'politely sit through it' for the sake of my friend, but wasn't expecting to get much out of it. I entered entirely skeptical. I left sobbing. Never again will I trash opera. Its still not my music of choice, but *wow*, an Opera singer can seriously knock the living daylights out of almost all pop/rock singers with their skill and talent. And the lady doing the lead, like all of them, were *amateurs*. And I say that as a uncultured hick, too. Although unable to afford it at the moment, I would love to see a professional rendition at the likes of the opera house. I have thoroughly changed my mind - and my friend is very pleased with my 'conversion'. LOL. Yowie When my kids (who were adults at the time) and I were in Vienna, we went to the local opera house to see "The Magic Flute". I had never seen an opera before, nor ever wanted to, but when in Mozart's birthplace, it seemed the thing to do. We enjoyed it very much. Since then I've seen a couple of operas and enjoyed them too. I'm definitely a drama fan, and that's the main reason I enjoy them. However, I once heard Pavarotti sing on some TV show, so I made a point to watch an opera he was in (on TV, which is not really the way to see opera) just to hear his voice again. I've always loved Gilbert & Sullivan, but never considered that opera. Joy |
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On 08/22/2011 05:05 PM, hopitus wrote:
On Aug 22, 4:10 pm, wrote: On 22/08/2011 4:45 PM, CatNipped wrote: I know I'm a no-class hick for believing so, but opera, to me, sounds like so much shrieking. snip A friend dragged me along to see a local, amateur, production of 'La Traviata' because I had similarly pooh-poohed opera and she thought I needed an education in 'culcha' - since she paid for the ticket, I really couldn't say 'no' (and besides, and night out is welcome these days). I was prepared to 'politely sit through it' for the sake of my friend, but wasn't expecting to get much out of it. I entered entirely skeptical. I left sobbing. Never again will I trash opera. Its still not my music of choice, but *wow*, an Opera singer can seriously knock the living daylights out of almost all pop/rock singers with their skill and talent. And the lady doing the lead, like all of them, were *amateurs*. And I say that as a uncultured hick, too. Although unable to afford it at the moment, I would love to see a professional rendition at the likes of the opera house. I have thoroughly changed my mind - and my friend is very pleased with my 'conversion'. LOL. Yowie Now that you are of the mind to sit through a pro performance, get your friend to clue you in on operatic story of "Madame Butterfly", and arrange to see that one with her. You will leave at very least with teary eyes, especially after being filled in on story, when Cho-Cho-San hits that high Dflat last note in her aria, you will know why she did. This is one of the few not in medeival or older days with weird costumes and dramatic deaths in lovers' arms, and is my fave. Also a not ridiculous story like "Carmen" (great music, unbelievable story). I can't sing and have a record at nearby bar of hospital I last worked at for speed of driving out patrons during karaoke hour. I played trumpet badly in high school but got to travel to Cuba, south America, Dominica, and all over USA with the band at 16--18. It never fails to awe and amaze me to hear and watch music coming out of performers' *throats* instead of an instrument. Rock 'n rollers (my fave) don't compare. IMHO The equipment (*TV, radio, etc) makes any music sound scratchy and irritating. Back in "the old days" I used to love hearing Lily Pons sing The Bell Song and operettas were preferred to opera. MLB |
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On 8/22/2011 8:37 PM, Joy wrote:
wrote in message ... On 22/08/2011 4:45 PM, CatNipped wrote: I know I'm a no-class hick for believing so, but opera, to me, sounds like so much shrieking. snip A friend dragged me along to see a local, amateur, production of 'La Traviata' because I had similarly pooh-poohed opera and she thought I needed an education in 'culcha' - since she paid for the ticket, I really couldn't say 'no' (and besides, and night out is welcome these days). I was prepared to 'politely sit through it' for the sake of my friend, but wasn't expecting to get much out of it. I entered entirely skeptical. I left sobbing. Never again will I trash opera. Its still not my music of choice, but *wow*, an Opera singer can seriously knock the living daylights out of almost all pop/rock singers with their skill and talent. And the lady doing the lead, like all of them, were *amateurs*. And I say that as a uncultured hick, too. Although unable to afford it at the moment, I would love to see a professional rendition at the likes of the opera house. I have thoroughly changed my mind - and my friend is very pleased with my 'conversion'. LOL. Yowie When my kids (who were adults at the time) and I were in Vienna, we went to the local opera house to see "The Magic Flute". I had never seen an opera before, nor ever wanted to, but when in Mozart's birthplace, it seemed the thing to do. We enjoyed it very much. Since then I've seen a couple of operas and enjoyed them too. I'm definitely a drama fan, and that's the main reason I enjoy them. However, I once heard Pavarotti sing on some TV show, so I made a point to watch an opera he was in (on TV, which is not really the way to see opera) just to hear his voice again. I've always loved Gilbert& Sullivan, but never considered that opera. I love G & S - they're classified as comic operettas. There are others - I saw Die Fledermaus on TV and enjoyed it too. Not all enjoyable singing and music comes along with suicidal lovers! Of course, 'enjoyable' is a relative term, and some people don't or can't distinguish between 'Pinafore' and 'Aida'. I think it was some G&S I was playing on the car cassette player, as it was then, when I picked up a co-worker I was giving a lift to & From the city at the student residence she'd been staying at. She'd obviously had a rather late night, and collapsed into the passenger seat, only to nearly jump through the roof when the music kicked in, exclaiming 'WHAT is THAT????' I don't think grand opera would have been recieved any more appreciatively! As I mentioned before, there are live HD performances (plus some repeats) in regular movie theatres in various places from the Met and, I think, from a top UK ballet company (and possibly professionaly wrestling too). It's always Saturday afternoon here, due to time differences, and is a bit over twice the cost of a regular movie, but I manage to get to a couple a year. The local music school puts off some excerpts and sometimes a scene or two annually, and a local organization has started bringing people in for workshops - this year they put off 'Dido and Aeneus', which I managed to miss (I've seen it on DVD) and 'The Marriage of Figaro', which was marvellous. We're very lucky here. We have a LOT of music. Much of it it in various popular genres with lots of live music in bars and concerts, but there's lots of other kinds of music played live too. -- Cheryl |
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OT - Opera - OOPS Please read before you read the thread!???
You may have more fun listening to bass or bass baritone. E.g. Teddy
Tahu Rhodes, a very talented New Zealander. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0x4nHr-t4U I don't particularly enjoy listening to sopranos because to my ears it too often sounds shrill. I am much more able to enjoy lower-register voices. Tish |
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OT - Opera
"Cheryl" wrote in message
... On 8/22/2011 8:37 PM, Joy wrote: wrote in message ... On 22/08/2011 4:45 PM, CatNipped wrote: I know I'm a no-class hick for believing so, but opera, to me, sounds like so much shrieking. snip A friend dragged me along to see a local, amateur, production of 'La Traviata' because I had similarly pooh-poohed opera and she thought I needed an education in 'culcha' - since she paid for the ticket, I really couldn't say 'no' (and besides, and night out is welcome these days). I was prepared to 'politely sit through it' for the sake of my friend, but wasn't expecting to get much out of it. I entered entirely skeptical. I left sobbing. Never again will I trash opera. Its still not my music of choice, but *wow*, an Opera singer can seriously knock the living daylights out of almost all pop/rock singers with their skill and talent. And the lady doing the lead, like all of them, were *amateurs*. And I say that as a uncultured hick, too. Although unable to afford it at the moment, I would love to see a professional rendition at the likes of the opera house. I have thoroughly changed my mind - and my friend is very pleased with my 'conversion'. LOL. Yowie When my kids (who were adults at the time) and I were in Vienna, we went to the local opera house to see "The Magic Flute". I had never seen an opera before, nor ever wanted to, but when in Mozart's birthplace, it seemed the thing to do. We enjoyed it very much. Since then I've seen a couple of operas and enjoyed them too. I'm definitely a drama fan, and that's the main reason I enjoy them. However, I once heard Pavarotti sing on some TV show, so I made a point to watch an opera he was in (on TV, which is not really the way to see opera) just to hear his voice again. I've always loved Gilbert& Sullivan, but never considered that opera. I love G & S - they're classified as comic operettas. There are others - I saw Die Fledermaus on TV and enjoyed it too. Not all enjoyable singing and music comes along with suicidal lovers! Of course, 'enjoyable' is a relative term, and some people don't or can't distinguish between 'Pinafore' and 'Aida'. I think it was some G&S I was playing on the car cassette player, as it was then, when I picked up a co-worker I was giving a lift to & From the city at the student residence she'd been staying at. She'd obviously had a rather late night, and collapsed into the passenger seat, only to nearly jump through the roof when the music kicked in, exclaiming 'WHAT is THAT????' I don't think grand opera would have been recieved any more appreciatively! As I mentioned before, there are live HD performances (plus some repeats) in regular movie theatres in various places from the Met and, I think, from a top UK ballet company (and possibly professionaly wrestling too). It's always Saturday afternoon here, due to time differences, and is a bit over twice the cost of a regular movie, but I manage to get to a couple a year. The local music school puts off some excerpts and sometimes a scene or two annually, and a local organization has started bringing people in for workshops - this year they put off 'Dido and Aeneus', which I managed to miss (I've seen it on DVD) and 'The Marriage of Figaro', which was marvellous. We're very lucky here. We have a LOT of music. Much of it it in various popular genres with lots of live music in bars and concerts, but there's lots of other kinds of music played live too. -- Cheryl Oh, yes, 'The Marriage of Figaro' is great! The university my daughter attended put it on in English while she was there, and I really appreciated being able to understand the words as well as enjoying the theater and the music. Joy |
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OT - Opera
"hopitus" wrote in message
... On Aug 22, 5:17 pm, MLB wrote: On 08/22/2011 05:05 PM, hopitus wrote: On Aug 22, 4:10 pm, wrote: On 22/08/2011 4:45 PM, CatNipped wrote: I know I'm a no-class hick for believing so, but opera, to me, sounds like so much shrieking. snip A friend dragged me along to see a local, amateur, production of 'La Traviata' because I had similarly pooh-poohed opera and she thought I needed an education in 'culcha' - since she paid for the ticket, I really couldn't say 'no' (and besides, and night out is welcome these days). I was prepared to 'politely sit through it' for the sake of my friend, but wasn't expecting to get much out of it. I entered entirely skeptical. I left sobbing. Never again will I trash opera. Its still not my music of choice, but *wow*, an Opera singer can seriously knock the living daylights out of almost all pop/rock singers with their skill and talent. And the lady doing the lead, like all of them, were *amateurs*. And I say that as a uncultured hick, too. Although unable to afford it at the moment, I would love to see a professional rendition at the likes of the opera house. I have thoroughly changed my mind - and my friend is very pleased with my 'conversion'. LOL. Yowie Now that you are of the mind to sit through a pro performance, get your friend to clue you in on operatic story of "Madame Butterfly", and arrange to see that one with her. You will leave at very least with teary eyes, especially after being filled in on story, when Cho-Cho-San hits that high Dflat last note in her aria, you will know why she did. This is one of the few not in medeival or older days with weird costumes and dramatic deaths in lovers' arms, and is my fave. Also a not ridiculous story like "Carmen" (great music, unbelievable story). I can't sing and have a record at nearby bar of hospital I last worked at for speed of driving out patrons during karaoke hour. I played trumpet badly in high school but got to travel to Cuba, south America, Dominica, and all over USA with the band at 16--18. It never fails to awe and amaze me to hear and watch music coming out of performers' *throats* instead of an instrument. Rock 'n rollers (my fave) don't compare. IMHO The equipment (*TV, radio, etc) makes any music sound scratchy and irritating. Back in "the old days" I used to love hearing Lily Pons sing The Bell Song and operettas were preferred to opera. MLB The Bell Song is an amazing demonstration of what the gifted can do with their voice. I too am fond of G&S ("stick close to your desks and never go to sea, and you all may be the Rulers of the Queen's Navy...'")entertaining and non-tragic like opera in general. *** Speaking of G&S, my daughter's music class put it on at her High School, and she was one of the schoolgirls. The performance was really to-notch, and Koko, especially, was outstanding! Several years later a local little theater group put it on and I went to see it. I was amazed and delighted to see that Koko was played by the same young man who had done it at my daughter's school. Joy |
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OT - Opera - OOPS Please read before you read the thread!???
"Spock-n-Persephone" wrote in message
... You may have more fun listening to bass or bass baritone. E.g. Teddy Tahu Rhodes, a very talented New Zealander. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0x4nHr-t4U I don't particularly enjoy listening to sopranos because to my ears it too often sounds shrill. I am much more able to enjoy lower-register voices. Tish I prefer to listen to men's voices too. To go even further off topic, my late husband sang in a Barbershop quartet. I love the close harmony of Barbershop. There is a women's organization that sings the same harmony, but I don't enjoy the women's voices nearly as much. Joy |
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