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Kitty Flu
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:00:15 -0400, "Matthew"
wrote: "Cazz A" I want you to read something and pay close attention to it. You should seek proper veterinary advice or treatment when your cat or kitten becomes ill .... Your vet will discuss this with you at your visit I guess my cats have never had the Cat Flu. Once in a great while one seems like it has a cold and off to the vet they go, but nothing like that Flu. Still, outside of the cat version of cough medicine there doesn't seem to be all that much you can do once they get it. The last time one got a cold I called the vet and he said that if it got worse to bring him in but otherwise he'd be fine, and fine he was. But he was still playing and seemed normal except for the sneezing and slight mucous. It's sometimes a tough call on whether to take them to the vet. I hate paying the money, but the bigger part is that the cats really get stressed. Usually I call the vet and ask what I should do. |
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Thanks Matthew, that was very useful. Swab eye and nose discharges with salt water (one teaspoon of salt to one pint of water) I've been using warmed water on a cotton bud from my first aid kit. How much water's in a pint? Sorry, in Australia, everything's metric! Try to keep the room well ventilated and not stuffy (you may even want to place a bowl of steamy water near them to try and help them breath, but never leave your cat alone with hot water) I didn't think of the bowl, Lu joined me in the bathroom for a shower(I left him curled under a towel, but he decided to save me from the awful wet stuff! Provide very smelly foods like pilchards because they may have a reduced sense of smell, and cut them up into small pieces I give them tinned 'Seafood Delight' food. It doesn't have all the sick kitties need, but because the flu's not permanent, I don't think it matters, does it? A little cream or ice cream may also tempt them to eat, as it may sooth sore throats. Would cat milk(the lactose free stuff) accomplish the same goal? Keep the environment quiet and stress free Prevent cat Flu in the first place This bit I really don't understand. Is there any real way to prevent it? Aren't their viruses like humans, a fact of life? If I have a carrier of this flu and all my cats have it, wouldn't the non carriers be immune to catching it again until it mutates and some other cat brings the mutated virus back to my colony? Once a cat has cat flu they may become a carrier of the disease which may either make them sick again in the future even if they have not come in to contact with another sick cat, or they may infect other cats. This is one of the main reasons for having your healthy cat vaccinated against the disease, as you can never be sure which cats they come into contact with, you may even inadvertently spread the disease yourself by stroking a seemingly healthy cat who may be carrying the illness. Isn't it impossible to vaccinate against a virus? All vaccinations do is stop the virus from being fatal, that doesn't stop a secondary infection from killing the cat. The vaccine for cat flu can be given either separately or as a combined vaccine for other infectious diseases. Your vet will discuss this with you at your visit |
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"Cazz A" wrote in message u... Thanks Matthew, that was very useful. Swab eye and nose discharges with salt water (one teaspoon of salt to one pint of water) I've been using warmed water on a cotton bud from my first aid kit. How much water's in a pint? Sorry, in Australia, everything's metric! Try to keep the room well ventilated and not stuffy (you may even want to place a bowl of steamy water near them to try and help them breath, but never leave your cat alone with hot water) I didn't think of the bowl, Lu joined me in the bathroom for a shower(I left him curled under a towel, but he decided to save me from the awful wet stuff! Provide very smelly foods like pilchards because they may have a reduced sense of smell, and cut them up into small pieces I give them tinned 'Seafood Delight' food. It doesn't have all the sick kitties need, but because the flu's not permanent, I don't think it matters, does it? A little cream or ice cream may also tempt them to eat, as it may sooth sore throats. Would cat milk(the lactose free stuff) accomplish the same goal? Keep the environment quiet and stress free Prevent cat Flu in the first place This bit I really don't understand. Is there any real way to prevent it? Aren't their viruses like humans, a fact of life? If I have a carrier of this flu and all my cats have it, wouldn't the non carriers be immune to catching it again until it mutates and some other cat brings the mutated virus back to my colony? Once a cat has cat flu they may become a carrier of the disease which may either make them sick again in the future even if they have not come in to contact with another sick cat, or they may infect other cats. This is one of the main reasons for having your healthy cat vaccinated against the disease, as you can never be sure which cats they come into contact with, you may even inadvertently spread the disease yourself by stroking a seemingly healthy cat who may be carrying the illness. Isn't it impossible to vaccinate against a virus? All vaccinations do is stop the virus from being fatal, that doesn't stop a secondary infection from killing the cat. Is there a proper name for this illness? "Cat flu" probably not very accurate. |
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Kitty Flu
"Cazz A" wrote in message u... Isn't it impossible to vaccinate against a virus? All vaccinations do is stop the virus from being fatal, that doesn't stop a secondary infection from killing the cat. Have you been vaccinated for polio, measles, mumps, rubella, varicella, hepatitis? These are all caused by viruses and they are prevented by vaccines. You have the vaccine, you do not get the disease, except in rare instances. Cats get vaccines for FeLV , calcivirus, rabies, and panleukopenia, which are all caused by viruses. Good hygiene prevents secondary bacterial infections, and good care prevents them from being fatal. |
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"dgk" wrote It's sometimes a tough call on whether to take them to the vet. I hate paying the money, but the bigger part is that the cats really get stressed. Usually I call the vet and ask what I should do. What is it, $40 max for an exam and medicine? One reason for erring on the side of taking the cats in too often is that when they feel bad, or cannot smell well due to congestion, they can stop eating and get into trouble really fast. Anybody here who aids and abets the morons like Cazz A who come in here asking for ways to make themselves feel better about denying their cats the health care they need are just as bad as the morons. |
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"dejablues" wrote Is there a proper name for this illness? "Cat flu" probably not very accurate. This stupid bitch is talking about an upper respiratory infection, the kind that can kill cats in no time if they stop eating. |
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"dejablues" wrote in message ... "Cazz A" wrote in message u... Isn't it impossible to vaccinate against a virus? All vaccinations do is stop the virus from being fatal, that doesn't stop a secondary infection from killing the cat. Have you been vaccinated for polio, measles, mumps, rubella, varicella, hepatitis? These are all caused by viruses and they are prevented by vaccines. You have the vaccine, you do not get the disease, except in rare instances. Cats get vaccines for FeLV , calcivirus, rabies, and panleukopenia, which are all caused by viruses. Good hygiene prevents secondary bacterial infections, and good care prevents them from being fatal. She has 11 cats. What's a dead one here or there? There are plenty more where that one came from. They always find dead animals and really sick animals among the population of hoarders, if only because they don't have the sense to only take on the number of animals they can properly care for. Cazz is patting herself on the back for coming in here and asking, that's real love, you know. Half those cats, at least, should be rehomed. |
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"cybercat" wrote
"dejablues" wrote Is there a proper name for this illness? "Cat flu" probably not very accurate. This stupid bitch is talking about an upper respiratory infection, the kind that can kill cats in no time if they stop eating. Dropping the name calling, yes you may well be right. The worst thing is 11 cats in one house. There is a time when a sensible person says 'sure the cat is cute but I cant afford the medical bills for another' so stop adopting more. My daughter wants to add another cat to our existing 1 cat and 1 dog home. I told her no and reminded her not only of finances to pay for care if the cat got sick, but the conversation when we adopted Daisy-cat. Daisy is not emotionally suited to living with other cats. It's well on record from 5 different temp homes when they were trying to find her a final one. In a multi-cat home she hides, sulks, acts up (including litter issues), scratches, and occasionally attacks the other cats unless they are extremely submissive to her. Thats why she had 5 temp homes in 18 months and not one offer of adoption. Now Dogs? She loves them. Weird cat (grin). Kids (2 foot types) hates'em except can tolerate the older ones and loves Charlotte. Yes, I can afford their medical bills. It's tight but not that tight. I did shift Daisy's flea stuff though to Frontline which was 1/2 the cost of the other stuff. |
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"cybercat" wrote in message ... "dejablues" wrote in message ... "Cazz A" wrote in message u... Isn't it impossible to vaccinate against a virus? All vaccinations do is stop the virus from being fatal, that doesn't stop a secondary infection from killing the cat. Have you been vaccinated for polio, measles, mumps, rubella, varicella, hepatitis? These are all caused by viruses and they are prevented by vaccines. You have the vaccine, you do not get the disease, except in rare instances. Cats get vaccines for FeLV , calcivirus, rabies, and panleukopenia, which are all caused by viruses. Good hygiene prevents secondary bacterial infections, and good care prevents them from being fatal. She has 11 cats. What's a dead one here or there? There are plenty more where that one came from. They always find dead animals and really sick animals among the population of hoarders, if only because they don't have the sense to only take on the number of animals they can properly care for. Cazz is patting herself on the back for coming in here and asking, that's real love, you know. Half those cats, at least, should be rehomed. Ugh. I troll Petfinder.com, and there are several cage-free rescue groups in my area that put forth the statement that if you adopt one of their cats, you will have to agree treat them for Feline Upper Respiratory Disease : http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18639946 If there are a lot of cats on one place, there will be URTD. The OP needs to stop calling it "kitty flu", treat the cats properly or rehome them if he/she cannot, and stop bringing new cats into the environment. |
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cybercat wrote:
"dejablues" wrote in message ... "Cazz A" wrote in message u... Isn't it impossible to vaccinate against a virus? All vaccinations do is stop the virus from being fatal, that doesn't stop a secondary infection from killing the cat. Have you been vaccinated for polio, measles, mumps, rubella, varicella, hepatitis? These are all caused by viruses and they are prevented by vaccines. You have the vaccine, you do not get the disease, except in rare instances. Cats get vaccines for FeLV , calcivirus, rabies, and panleukopenia, which are all caused by viruses. Good hygiene prevents secondary bacterial infections, and good care prevents them from being fatal. She has 11 cats. What's a dead one here or there? There are plenty more where that one came from. They always find dead animals and really sick animals among the population of hoarders, if only because they don't have the sense to only take on the number of animals they can properly care for. Cazz is patting herself on the back for coming in here and asking, that's real love, you know. Half those cats, at least, should be rehomed. You know what? Lu had a home before this crap with the RSPCA started. NO cat is released from my house without at least being desexed. Roma has a potential home since last night, an answer to one of my 4 adverts. Lu will be desexed in 4 weeks, that's the first appointment I could get for him(I had to wait 6 weeks for the other desexings). I have talked to a vet(not my usual) who does housecalls, she'll be here tomorrow. No, actually I'm not patting myself on the back. I came here looking for people who'd been through this before and could add their perspective to my vet's diagnosis and prescription, but all you do is throw insults at me. |
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