[OT] Pre-pregnant? I think I'm gonna pre-puke

jmcquown wrote:

I have NO income; I'm living off
my retirement fund and gifts from my family and friends.

I think you are just war weary, as in...

been there done that...

you don't strike me as lazy..

maybe you get depressed when you are pulled from the things you
actually enjoy doing... where mooching from family and friends enables
you to do the things you enjoy...

so you endure the shame of mooching for the benefit of doing the things
you enjoy

but who are we fooling.. nobody rides for free

what do you have to do to get these gifts

take their phone calls?
stroke their egos?

rake in the pity...

pity is love Jill, and YOU are looking for love in the wrong places

you think gifts are love, they are not! that's just money, I bet if the
right guy came along, you would be delighted to quit your career as a
professional moocher.

why don't you just hit your Dad up for a lump sum and start your own
business

stop ****ing around before you become an old woman and find yourself
sitting on side your bed shaking your head thinking "wonder what would
have happened if I would have just..."...

see.. I already know.. Daddy keeps baby with the monies...

Daddy needs his baby, I think he should enrich you with enough at one
time to actually do something with! more than just getting by etc...

If you could just re-assure him of your love regardless of the money, I
think he just might give you a lump (hehe)... that is actually enough
to do something with!

and so what if you fail at that! you won't know till you try and you
won't die with no regrets

I would. what's his number, does he need any sons?

I'd have pops rollin round town with women hanging all over him...and I
flag hanging on the antenna saying "chillin the most"

badwilson wrote:

Aaargh, shut up already, how old do I have to be before I
stop getting comments like this?!?! Surely by the time I'm 50, it will
be too late to have kids and I won't get these rude comments anymore???
I can't wait for the day...

When you flash your bottle of hormone-replacement therapy at them,
that will finally shut them up.

Of course, if you aren't taking HRT (I'm not), you might have to get
more creative. You could always be very dramatic about periodically
wiping off your forehead with a hanky and taking out the personal fan.

For now, though, I guess you have to try to tune it out. sigh

I find that response (ie, "you'll change your mind") soooooo
patronizing! I knew at 15 that I didn't want kids, and I never changed
my mind. Lots of women don't want kids. Just because as a species we
evolved to want to reproduce, that doesn't mean that the tendency is
going to work the same way in every individual person. We're different
in every other imaginable way, so why not for this?

Sometimes I tell people I have a "cat orientation". Babies don't
make my oxytocin flow, but kitties do! What can I do, it's just how
I'm wired!

Joyce

"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:

Besides which, such comments are TERRIBLY rude! How can
they know that you don't desperately WANT children, have
tried everything available to do so, and simply can't? (In
that case, every such remark is not only annoying, but
painfully cruel!)

Good point, Evelyn! Imagine if such a person broke down in tears and
started telling the rude person the sad story of their infertility
and failed attempts to conceive? That would certainly shut them up!

Joyce

Cheryl Perkins wrote:

Refusing to treat a patient because the doctor things the
operation won't work isn't the same thing as refusing to treat
a patient because they are obese or smokers.

Except there's a big difference between "obesity" and smoking: smoking
is a behavior. Being fat is a trait. One is a verb, the other an adjective.
You can make exceptions for behaviors, since people can control their
behaviors - as diffcult as it is to quit smoking, it certainly can be.
Plenty of people do it successfully. But I think that making an exception
for a body type is discriminatory. Having a large body is not a *behavior*
that someone can simply stop doing. (And since 95% of diets fail, it's
not something that I would recommend people do, if I were a doctor.)

Having said that, I do realize that organ donor societies and doctors
have to make choices because there's a lot more demand than supply.

Joyce

On 2006-05-28, penned:

I find that response (ie, "you'll change your mind") soooooo
patronizing! I knew at 15 that I didn't want kids, and I never
changed my mind. Lots of women don't want kids. Just because as a
species we evolved to want to reproduce, that doesn't mean that the
tendency is going to work the same way in every individual person.
We're different in every other imaginable way, so why not for this?

What I don't understand is the people who, when you say you don't want
kids, say there's something wrong with you and that they're the best
thing in the world.

Why, why, why, if there's something wrong with me, would you want me
to be responsible for children? This I don't get.

This is why I suspect that in fact, "breeders" are simply jealous of
all the free time and money that DINKs and SINKs have, and want to fix
that situation =P

--
monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully

pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca

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badwilson wrote:

Yes, makes you wonder how long it will be before they actually make it
illegal for any woman of child bearing age to drink, smoke, have cats,
whatever. When that day comes, I will have my uterus surgically
removed, rather than put up with those sorts of rules.

Except that by the time those rules are actually in effect, most likely
a healthy woman of childbearing age - especially one who doesn't have
any kids - wouldn't be able to just walk into a doctor's office and ask
for a hysterectomy. Isn't that hard enough to do now?

I'm not even talking about insurance, but rather, whether one can find
a doctor who will perform a sterilization on demand, without there being
a health problem that makes that necessary (or recommended).


Its damn hard to get a hysterectomy "on demand" now. Or even if you and
your doctor agree that it the reasonable and sensible way to go.

There were apparently too many unnecessary hysterectomies for a while and
many women who felt upset by what they later deemed unnecessary surgery and
considered a form of castration.

Now you have to put up with all sorts of nonsense to have it deemed
necessary.

Jo

Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
On 2006-05-28, penned:

I find that response (ie, "you'll change your mind") soooooo
patronizing! I knew at 15 that I didn't want kids, and I never
changed my mind. Lots of women don't want kids. Just because as a
species we evolved to want to reproduce, that doesn't mean that the
tendency is going to work the same way in every individual person.
We're different in every other imaginable way, so why not for this?

What I don't understand is the people who, when you say you don't want
kids, say there's something wrong with you and that they're the best
thing in the world.

Ugh, or they try to make you feel really bad about what will happen when
you get old. "You will be old and alone, with no family to take care of
you." Not only is that just downright meanspirited to say to someone,
but who can guarantee their kids will be around to take care of them
anyway. Dennis and I now live halfway around the world from our
parents. People move far away all the time, it's normal.


Why, why, why, if there's something wrong with me, would you want me
to be responsible for children? This I don't get.

This is why I suspect that in fact, "breeders" are simply jealous of
all the free time and money that DINKs and SINKs have, and want to fix
that situation =P

Yes, I think this too. I'm sure they want us all to suffer as they are
suffering ;-)
--
Britta
Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness
overflow.
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http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album

badwilson wrote:
wrote:
badwilson wrote:

Aaargh, shut up already, how old do I have to be before I
stop getting comments like this?!?! Surely by the time I'm 50, it
will be too late to have kids and I won't get these rude comments
anymore??? I can't wait for the day...

When you flash your bottle of hormone-replacement therapy at them,
that will finally shut them up.

Of course, if you aren't taking HRT (I'm not), you might have to get
more creative. You could always be very dramatic about periodically
wiping off your forehead with a hanky and taking out the personal fan.

For now, though, I guess you have to try to tune it out. sigh

I find that response (ie, "you'll change your mind") soooooo
patronizing! I knew at 15 that I didn't want kids, and I never changed
my mind. Lots of women don't want kids. Just because as a species we
evolved to want to reproduce, that doesn't mean that the tendency is
going to work the same way in every individual person. We're different
in every other imaginable way, so why not for this?

Sometimes I tell people I have a "cat orientation". Babies don't
make my oxytocin flow, but kitties do! What can I do, it's just how
I'm wired!

Joyce

Yeah, I tell people I have a baby. He's peachy, furry and purry. I
plan on having more too!
--
Britta

LOL! You sound like my daughter. She says she has four children.
They're just short, hairy, and have speech impediments.

Sherry

W. Leong wrote:

"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message
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W. Leong wrote:


I am taking a Waltmart brand of multi-vitamin.
It has 600 mcg of folic acid. That should be enough as
the RDA for folic acid is 400 mcg.

It WAS 800 until recently! (And my doctor put me on three a day of the
800, which means I must now take six of the 400 to get the prescribed
dosage.)


Besides the muti-vitamin, I used to take a B complex which has
1000 mcg of folic acid.
Is 2400 mcg the new RDA for women of child bearing age?
Do you have a condition that needs extra folic acid?

I've no idea what they prescribe for pregnant women, and
I've been taking that amount for at least twenty years, now.
Most M.D.'s who specialize in nutrition will, at the very
least, tell you to double the dosage of your daily
multi-vitamin - according to mine, "RDA" generally means the
bare minimum, and unless your eating habits are a lot better
than mine (and your food is really "fresh", not from a
supermarket where it may mave been traveling and in "cold
storage" for weeks before you get it), you don't get nearly
the amount they assume you do from food.

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Marina wrote:

I didn't mean that the viewpoint was not valid, but I wondered if there
was something he was not telling. Maybe he was telling everything. I'm
used to news reporting where at least two sides of a coin is represented.

I see. Didn't realize it was a news program. I'm used to only one side
being represented in the news (although the media claim that they're
unbiased), so I assume that everything is slanted somehow. I read the
lefty media here, but of course they have their bias, too. Somehow you
have to try to tease out what really happened from all these different
perspectives, and I usually end up feeling like I don't know what really
happened.

Well, it wasn't a news program, but a documentary, and I tend to
consider those slanted if they don't contain 'the other side's'
viewpoint, as well. I meant I tend to think that way *because* the
papers I read and the news I watch on TV usually try to give several
sides to each story. But now that I think of it, I don't know what the
other side would have been in this story. Maybe interviewing some of the
medical professionals to get their view on the situation. It must be
hard to turn away lots of patients who need help if you are a dedicated
medical professional. Or a look at the benefits available to people who
have been poor a longer time than the one month the Spurlocks tried out.

--
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