Solstice

The light starts coming back after today!

My grandmother would say "Run out in your bikini!"
--Actually it was my grandfather who taught me the "slide on the ice"
poem!

Hey maybe my GPs were Finnish and I didn't know it!


Theresa
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"Kreisleriana" wrote in message
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The light starts coming back after today!

My grandmother would say "Run out in your bikini!"
--Actually it was my grandfather who taught me the "slide on the ice"
poem!

Hey maybe my GPs were Finnish and I didn't know it!

Two of mine were! I take "snow baths" and if you haven't tried it... you're
in for a treat. Get naked, run out there and rub the fresh snow vigorously
over your entire body. When you're done, you will be warm as can be and will
stay that way for hours. No kidding!

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:35:28 -0600, "Pat"
yodeled:


"Kreisleriana" wrote in message
.. .

The light starts coming back after today!

My grandmother would say "Run out in your bikini!"
--Actually it was my grandfather who taught me the "slide on the ice"
poem!

Hey maybe my GPs were Finnish and I didn't know it!

Two of mine were! I take "snow baths" and if you haven't tried it... you're
in for a treat. Get naked, run out there and rub the fresh snow vigorously
over your entire body. When you're done, you will be warm as can be and will
stay that way for hours. No kidding!

We have Russian and Ukrainian communities near us, and some of them
always take an ocean dip at Coney Island on New Years Day. And of
course, we have the famous Coney Island Polar Bears Club
(founded 1903!!! see http://www.polarbearclub.org/)








Theresa
Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

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On 21 Dec 2004 19:07:44 GMT, itty (Sherry ) wrote:

Two of mine were! I take "snow baths" and if you haven't tried
it... you're in for a treat. Get naked, run out there and rub the
fresh snow vigorously over your entire body. When you're done, you
will be warm as can be and will stay that way for hours. No
kidding!

That sounds a little too invigorating for me. I think I'd scare the
birds so bad they'd never come back. :-)


You will either be "as warm as warm can be", or, more likely, will be
too numb to notice that you are cold.

If I tried that, my neighbors would probably call the police, and I
would be warming up down at the local jail while awaiting a
psychological examination.

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On 21 Dec 2004 19:07:44 GMT, itty (Sherry ) wrote:

Two of mine were! I take "snow baths" and if you haven't tried
it... you're in for a treat. Get naked, run out there and rub the
fresh snow vigorously over your entire body. When you're done, you
will be warm as can be and will stay that way for hours. No
kidding!

That sounds a little too invigorating for me. I think I'd scare the
birds so bad they'd never come back. :-)


You will either be "as warm as warm can be", or, more likely, will be
too numb to notice that you are cold.

If I tried that, my neighbors would probably call the police, and I
would be warming up down at the local jail while awaiting a
psychological examination.

Why is it that nobody believes me about this?

Thr friction of the snow against the skin draws blood to the surface of the
body, and the coldness of the snow closes your pores so the heat stays in.

Why is it that nobody believes me about this?

Thr friction of the snow against the skin draws blood to the surface of the
body, and the coldness of the snow closes your pores so the heat stays in.

Well, I do recall some survival training that the Boy Scouts did when my son &
DH were Boy Scouting. It had to do with stripping one of the scouts down buck
naked in the snow and dumping cold water on them, then there were some skills
as to how to raise the body temp. quickly. I don't remember what.
They don't do that anymore. For several reasons I'm sure. It's not too kosher
to strip boys naked in the woods anymore, and I'm sure some Moms heard the
story and freaked out.
I didn't mind since I knew the air force guys very well who conducted the
exercise, and DH was always there too. But I *really* hated the bug-eating and
bark and weed-eating they taught them. I used to nag about it all the time.

Sherry

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On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:04:45 -0600, "Pat"
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"John F. Eldredge" wrote in message
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On 21 Dec 2004 19:07:44 GMT, itty (Sherry )
wrote:

Two of mine were! I take "snow baths" and if you haven't tried
it... you're in for a treat. Get naked, run out there and rub
the fresh snow vigorously over your entire body. When you're
done, you will be warm as can be and will stay that way for
hours. No
kidding!

That sounds a little too invigorating for me. I think I'd scare
the birds so bad they'd never come back. :-)


You will either be "as warm as warm can be", or, more likely, will
be too numb to notice that you are cold.

If I tried that, my neighbors would probably call the police, and
I would be warming up down at the local jail while awaiting a
psychological examination.

Why is it that nobody believes me about this?

Thr friction of the snow against the skin draws blood to the surface
of the body, and the coldness of the snow closes your pores so the
heat stays in.


On the other hand, most of the heat transfer through your skin is
_not_ through the pores, unless we are discussing the cooling effect
of sweating. I suspect that the initial chill encourages blood to
flow to the skin, and then you come back inside before your body has
time to decide that heating your skin is a lost cause, and directs
the blood flow to your interior. Think of the changes your feet go
through, for example, as they get colder; first they get red, then,
as frostbite approaches, they get pale because the blood flow near
the surface is decreasing.

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On 21 Dec 2004 23:54:33 GMT, itty (Sherry ) wrote:

Why is it that nobody believes me about this?

Thr friction of the snow against the skin draws blood to the
surface of the body, and the coldness of the snow closes your pores
so the heat stays in.

Well, I do recall some survival training that the Boy Scouts did
when my son & DH were Boy Scouting. It had to do with stripping one
of the scouts down buck naked in the snow and dumping cold water on
them, then there were some skills as to how to raise the body temp.
quickly. I don't remember what.
They don't do that anymore. For several reasons I'm sure. It's not
too kosher to strip boys naked in the woods anymore, and I'm sure
some Moms heard the story and freaked out.
I didn't mind since I knew the air force guys very well who
conducted the exercise, and DH was always there too. But I *really*
hated the bug-eating and bark and weed-eating they taught them. I
used to nag about it all the time.


I haven't gone through survival training, but have only read about
it. As I understand it, the most effective way to warm a hypothermic
person quickly is for one or more other people to strip naked, and
then bundle together with the chilled person inside a sleeping bag,
piled-together clothing, or whatever. Having any clothing in between
them slows down the heat transfer.

I can see why parents might be leery of any procedure that involves
the boys stripping naked and cuddling together, even if nothing
sexual actually takes place. This is the recommended procedure,
however, if someone has been severely chilled, such as having fallen
through ice into a pond or stream.

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than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:04:45 -0600, "Pat"
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"John F. Eldredge" wrote in message
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On 21 Dec 2004 19:07:44 GMT, itty (Sherry ) wrote:

Two of mine were! I take "snow baths" and if you haven't tried
it... you're in for a treat. Get naked, run out there and rub the
fresh snow vigorously over your entire body. When you're done, you
will be warm as can be and will stay that way for hours. No
kidding!

That sounds a little too invigorating for me. I think I'd scare the
birds so bad they'd never come back. :-)


You will either be "as warm as warm can be", or, more likely, will be
too numb to notice that you are cold.

If I tried that, my neighbors would probably call the police, and I
would be warming up down at the local jail while awaiting a
psychological examination.

Why is it that nobody believes me about this?

Thr friction of the snow against the skin draws blood to the surface of the
body, and the coldness of the snow closes your pores so the heat stays in.

We're just waiting for the video.



Theresa
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My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

On 21 Dec 2004 23:54:33 GMT, itty (Sherry ) yodeled:

Why is it that nobody believes me about this?

Thr friction of the snow against the skin draws blood to the surface of the
body, and the coldness of the snow closes your pores so the heat stays in.

Well, I do recall some survival training that the Boy Scouts did when my son &
DH were Boy Scouting. It had to do with stripping one of the scouts down buck
naked in the snow and dumping cold water on them, then there were some skills
as to how to raise the body temp. quickly. I don't remember what.
They don't do that anymore. For several reasons I'm sure. It's not too kosher
to strip boys naked in the woods anymore, and I'm sure some Moms heard the
story and freaked out.
I didn't mind since I knew the air force guys very well who conducted the
exercise, and DH was always there too. But I *really* hated the bug-eating and
bark and weed-eating they taught them. I used to nag about it all the time.

Sherry

Why, the dog next door used to try to teach me bug-eating when I was
little! I always wondered why my mom stopped us.




Theresa
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