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I think it was pretty childish of people to send private emails
about someone on this group, in response to a public disagreement that stayed entirely within the bounds of civility, if not warm fuzzies. Facebook is quite often used by gangs of bullies to coordinate harassment. Zuckerberg and his minions have continued to deny any liability even when that has ended in suicide (which has occurred quite frequently in the UK). No idea who's been communicating privately about who, but this sort of behaviour is just par for the course and one reason why I'm never going near it. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- e m a i l : j a c k @ c a m p i n . m e . u k Jack Campin, 11 Third Street, Newtongrange, Midlothian EH22 4PU, Scotland mobile 07800 739 557 http://www.campin.me.uk Twitter: JackCampin |
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On 14/11/2011 7:45 AM, Judith Latham wrote:
In . net, MaryL wrote: "jmcquown" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... wrote: "Robert Catt" wrote in message ... For the reasons I've given here in a previous post, and after a brief interchange with a certain member of this newsgroup, I've decided to restrict my involvement with r.p.c.a. to its group at Facebook. Other people have written to me me about this individual, and their comments about him are part of the reason I will no longer be reading or posting to this newsgroup. As of today I've removed it from my list. - - - - - - - - - - I have taken the opposite approach (but certainly not because of any of our posters). I refuse to use Facebook, for this group or any other group. My objection is to Facebook itself, not to individual posters. MaryL I really don't understand peoples hostility to Facebook when they're happy to use usenet which is accessible by anybody. With Facebook, you can decide who can or can't see your posts. -- Adrian That's *exactly* the problem I have with Facebook. I don't have to want to be invited to join. It reminds me a lot of moderated newsgroups and web forums where people can decide what you can and cannot post. With rpca on usenet, I can easily killfile someone (and vice versa) if I don't like the things they're posting. Jill - - - - - - - - - Agreed. In addition, Facebook is notorious for sharing information. The r.p.c.a. group seems to be an "invite only" group, but even that would require members to use personal information to sign up. Facebook has a history of changing their "rules" in ways that may not be acceptable to users. MaryL I agree. There are far too many people trying to control me, some I have to tolerate but I refuse to have it in my personal life. Also many employers check out facebook if you apply for a job. It's worrying as things can be posted on facebook that you don't know about and again, have no control over. Facebook? No thanks. Whilst folks have every right to choose not to use Facebook for whatever reason, I feel I need to address a few misconceptions: The RPCAgroup on Facebook is indeed 'secret' so as to stop all comers joining and to stop what is said in RPCA appearing on your "wall" so its a safe place to talk. It is not a 'secret' in that just a select few know about it - otherwise it wouldn't be mentioned here. Its not so much "invite only" as that the right to read & post has to be granted, rather that any old person being able to access the group. However, the only way to stop trolls, spammers and the like from accessing the group means there has to be some sort of 'gate' at the front - which is the "one of the admins has to approve your membership" process. IMHO, this is not much different that NIN (for example) cleaning up the news feed to remove spam, gross cross-posts and the worst of the trolls. Facebook has no way of knowing the information you provide it is accurate. Mooch-the-cat posts to Facebook, for example. The only information they can gather on you is what you provide, and thats entirely up to you. An admin simply has to know that "Mr Snookums" is or has been an RPCA poster, or another member can vouch for their relationship with The Mothership, and they'll be granted access. Us hoomins will know who "Mr Snookums" really is, but Facebook need not know And whilst RPCA-FB *could* be moderated, it isn't. You can control who writes on your wall if you wish, and if you want to be really conservative you can choose to have no Facebook friends at all and yet still post to a group like RPCA (although you'll have to be friends with an admin for about 5 minutes so you can be let into the group - then you can unfriend them). You can lock your profile so no-one can access it. IMHO, Usenet is a far less private place than Facebook as there is no control over who sees your posts nor any entirely effective way to delete them afterward. But if you don't feel comfortable using Facebook - or even just plain don't want to - thats fine. Its certainly a more complicated place than Usenet is, for good and for ill. Yowie |
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Judith Latham wrote:
In article , MaryL I agree. There are far too many people trying to control me, some I have to tolerate but I refuse to have it in my personal life. Also many employers check out facebook if you apply for a job. It's worrying as things can be posted on facebook that you don't know about and again, have no control over. Facebook? No thanks. Judith it's not just Facebook they trawl, I assume you use your real name on usenet, everything you post is easily found by google. Not necessarily true for Facebook. -- Adrian |
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"MaryL" wrote:
"jmcquown" wrote in message ... "Adrian" wrote in message ... That's *exactly* the problem I have with Facebook. I don't have to want to be invited to join. It reminds me a lot of moderated newsgroups and web forums where people can decide what you can and cannot post. With rpca on usenet, I can easily killfile someone (and vice versa) if I don't like the things they're posting. Jill - - - - - - - - - Agreed. In addition, Facebook is notorious for sharing information. The r.p.c.a. group seems to be an "invite only" group, but even that would require members to use personal information to sign up. Facebook has a history of changing their "rules" in ways that may not be acceptable to users. MaryL That is just not true, at least two members of the group on Facebook use totally fictitious information it is no less safe than usenet which can be trawled by anyone. -- Adrian |
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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:
Adrian wrote: news wrote: Umm, who are you? If you were a regular of the group you'd know. Not true! (I've been a "regular" for nearly ten years, and I've never encountered him before.) I think you're lying. -- Adrian |
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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:
Really? I think you are being overly optimistic! Do you have any evidence that I'm wrong? -- Adrian |
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Adrian wrote:
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote: Adrian wrote: news wrote: Umm, who are you? If you were a regular of the group you'd know. Not true! (I've been a "regular" for nearly ten years, and I've never encountered him before.) I think you're lying. I think you're wrong (and it wouldn't be the first time either ). It is possible that Evelyn really didn't notice the creature. I felt the same as she did, but decided to check. To my surprise Robert (or Bob) Catt has about 35 messages here on rpca for the past one year. I'm certain I've read every one of them (I read all messages), but the name rang no bell; it's as if they slid accross and did not register at all. I'm guessing something similar happened to Evelyn's perceptions. Anyhow, I for one won't miss him, as I was not even aware he was here before. -- You'd be crazy to e-mail me with the crazy. But leave the div alone. * Whoever bans a book, shall be banished. Whoever burns a book, shall burn. |
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On 11/13/2011 03:29 PM, Patok wrote:
Adrian wrote: "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote: Adrian wrote: news wrote: Umm, who are you? If you were a regular of the group you'd know. Not true! (I've been a "regular" for nearly ten years, and I've never encountered him before.) I think you're lying. I think you're wrong (and it wouldn't be the first time either ). It is possible that Evelyn really didn't notice the creature. I felt the same as she did, but decided to check. To my surprise Robert (or Bob) Catt has about 35 messages here on rpca for the past one year. I'm certain I've read every one of them (I read all messages), but the name rang no bell; it's as if they slid accross and did not register at all. I'm guessing something similar happened to Evelyn's perceptions. Anyhow, I for one won't miss him, as I was not even aware he was here before. Wouldn't it be nice(?) if our memories were unfailing? I have a slight memory(I think) of him (?) writing about an outside cat under a table. But then again, I'm not sure. If memory fails, we need good notes. But then again, keeping notes is a bother.....whatever.......... MLB |
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"Adrian" wrote in message ... "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote: Adrian wrote: news wrote: Umm, who are you? If you were a regular of the group you'd know. Not true! (I've been a "regular" for nearly ten years, and I've never encountered him before.) I think you're lying. -- Adrian - - - - - - - - - - I also don't have any recollection of him. I admit that I often skim over a lot of messages, especially if it is a long thread. However, it wouldn't surprise me if I had actually replied to some of his messages and then forgotten about it. For one thing, I don't always associate the name with the message. MaryL |
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