Pet urns (kinda off topic)

"ingold1234[at]yahoo[dot]com (Gandalf)" wrote in message
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On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 17:09:43 -0400, "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~"
wrote:

Has anyone looked at urns for their dearly departed cats (or dogs)? OMG!!
Talk about ripping you off when you're vulnerable!! I looked at some for
$500.00!!!!!! I was tempted to call them and bitch them out for their
stinkin' prices. I did settle on a walnut colored box that has a ceramic
Basset Hound on top. There's a brass plate on the front for engraving.
Even this one cost $125.00!! It's definitely worth it to me, and I'm glad
I
am able to afford it. I just can't believe these places and their prices.
It's absolutely horrendous!!!


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Laurie
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All that I am or hope to be, I owe to my angel mother.
~Abraham Lincoln


My Mother is 88 years old. It is her desire to be cremated, when the
time comes.

Since my Father was a WWII veteran, she is entitled to be buried in the
local National Cemetery, with him. He died in 1980

She has already chosen a fairly plain wooden box for her 'cremains'.

Since it will be buried, rather than displayed, it is a fairly plain,
painted wooden box. I believe she said it cost about $20., when she
bought it about 10 years ago.

The funeral industry, even for pets, is as corrupt and greedy as any in
the world.

They try to take advantage of people who are extremely vulnerable, and
perhaps not able to make good decisions.

I handled a lot of my Father's arrangements, and one man repeatedly
tried shoving documents in my face, in an attempt to get me to sign for
expensive services. He would say 'I need you to sign these forms', and
then would get upset when i insisted on reading them.

I repeatedly took them from him, and tore them up, and threw them away.

I tried to have him removed from the room, repeatedly, but it turned out
he was the owner of the funeral home.

So, the phrase 'Just shut the **** up, Shylock' was also repeatedly
heard.

I am under no obligation to be polite to money grubbing, lying ass****s,
who are trying to exploit me, and my poor widowed Mother.

Sometime about 5 years after my Father died, my state enacted new laws
to try to 'protect' people from dishonest funeral directors.

But, if they can get you to sign a legal document, by lying and saying
it is for 'transport of the body', when it is REALLY for thousands of
dollars of unwanted services, legally, you are bound to pay, unless you
can prove in court, weeks or months later, that you were defrauded.

Usually, it is only your word against theirs.

My Father taught me NEVER to sign ANTHING, without reading it first.

A valuable lesson that I'm glad I did not forget.


I was extremely fortunate in that the local funeral home wasn't trying to
talk us into anything when my father died.

He (and my mother) are buried at the National cemetery. Mom picked out his
funeral urn and when she died I got one that matched his. Green marble.
Surprisingly, his funeral cost $4000 more than his. Of course he had the
full military escort and 21 gun salute.

When Persia dies she will be cremated and her ashes stored in a pewter urn
on the mantle. I may decide later th bury her in said urn outside my
bedroom window.

Jill

"moonglow minnow" wrote in message
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"~*LiveLoveLaugh*~" wrote:

Has anyone looked at urns for their dearly departed cats (or dogs)? OMG!!
Talk about ripping you off when you're vulnerable!! I looked at some for
$500.00!!!!!! I was tempted to call them and bitch them out for their
stinkin' prices. I did settle on a walnut colored box that has a ceramic
Basset Hound on top. There's a brass plate on the front for engraving.
Even this one cost $125.00!! It's definitely worth it to me, and I'm glad
I
am able to afford it. I just can't believe these places and their prices.
It's absolutely horrendous!!!

At those kinds of prices you could probably commission a custom piece
from a local ceramics artisan or woodworker and possibly have a
one-of-a-kind. The trick, of course, is to find them, but they're
definitely out there.

________

My main reason for just spending the money on the urn I bought on line is
because when the vet calls to tell me that Hap's ashes are back, I want to
get him, bring him home and put him to rest, so that he can REST. I didn't
want to put his remains anywhere until I found a box, or a person that could
make something. My sister-in-law offered to buy an urn for me, but my
brother is out of town. She wanted to make sure he was okay with paying for
one. As wonderful as that offer was, I didn't take it b/c I want the urn to
get here ASAP. Right now, I have a framed photo of Hap on the pillow next
to me. When I wake up in the middle of the night, I reach for it b/c I
don't have anything of "him" around me. I just want to get that urn and his
ashes and try to put some peace into his finally being 'home' again. (I
hope I'm making sense here)!!


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Laurie
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-:¦:- ((¸¸ ·.·

*~*LiveLoveLaugh*~*

All that I am or hope to be, I owe to my angel mother.
~Abraham Lincoln


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"moonglow minnow" wrote in message
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"jmcquown" wrote:

"Kelly Greene" wrote in message
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Those prices are an outrage. Why can't you use your own Urn? Have
someone
make one for you out of wood.


You make it sound so easy. I don't know a wood carver or wood worker. I
don't know a single person who could make an urn.

If there are local non-chain art supply or craft stores, they may be
able to refer you to artisans or art guilds with more information.
Second-hand book shops may have information, as may independently owned
and operated coffee shops or tea houses. Farmers' markets are out of
season, but art and craft shows aren't.
There may also be the option of having a tag custom engraved and
attaching it to a small jewelry or keepsake box, which doesn't require
knowing anyone at all - virtually every online store that sells tags
will do custom engraving.

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As it is I've ordered the pewter paw-print urn I posted the link for. Not
that Persia is going to die any time soon (thank Bast she's fully recovered
after the radioactive isotope therapy). But I figure it's best to be
prepared. She's about 14 years old (best guess).

There will be no need for engraving since she's the only cat I've ever had.
It's not likely I'll forget whose ashes are in the urn. I also contacted
her vet's office to find out about cremation services. They contract with a
company called 'The Good Shepherd'. If she dies at home they'll come and
pick her up here. If she dies in the vets care or if I have to have her
PTS, they'll pick her up there. Then they will deliver the cremains to me
in the urn I've supplied.

It may seem sort of gruesome but I'd rather not have to deal with the
details when I'm in shock. I was so unravelled when my dog Sampson died I
couldn't think straight. I really don't want to have to think about these
details when the time comes again.

Jill

"jmcquown" wrote in message
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"ingold1234[at]yahoo[dot]com (Gandalf)" wrote in message
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On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 17:09:43 -0400, "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~"
wrote:

Has anyone looked at urns for their dearly departed cats (or dogs)?
OMG!!
Talk about ripping you off when you're vulnerable!! I looked at some for
$500.00!!!!!! I was tempted to call them and bitch them out for their
stinkin' prices. I did settle on a walnut colored box that has a ceramic
Basset Hound on top. There's a brass plate on the front for engraving.
Even this one cost $125.00!! It's definitely worth it to me, and I'm
glad I
am able to afford it. I just can't believe these places and their
prices.
It's absolutely horrendous!!!


·.·´¨ ¨)) -:¦:-
¸.·´ .·´¨¨))
Laurie
((¸¸.·´ ..·´
-:¦:- ((¸¸ ·.·

*~*LiveLoveLaugh*~*

All that I am or hope to be, I owe to my angel mother.
~Abraham Lincoln


My Mother is 88 years old. It is her desire to be cremated, when the
time comes.

Since my Father was a WWII veteran, she is entitled to be buried in the
local National Cemetery, with him. He died in 1980

She has already chosen a fairly plain wooden box for her 'cremains'.

Since it will be buried, rather than displayed, it is a fairly plain,
painted wooden box. I believe she said it cost about $20., when she
bought it about 10 years ago.

The funeral industry, even for pets, is as corrupt and greedy as any in
the world.

They try to take advantage of people who are extremely vulnerable, and
perhaps not able to make good decisions.

I handled a lot of my Father's arrangements, and one man repeatedly
tried shoving documents in my face, in an attempt to get me to sign for
expensive services. He would say 'I need you to sign these forms', and
then would get upset when i insisted on reading them.

I repeatedly took them from him, and tore them up, and threw them away.

I tried to have him removed from the room, repeatedly, but it turned out
he was the owner of the funeral home.

So, the phrase 'Just shut the **** up, Shylock' was also repeatedly
heard.

I am under no obligation to be polite to money grubbing, lying ass****s,
who are trying to exploit me, and my poor widowed Mother.

Sometime about 5 years after my Father died, my state enacted new laws
to try to 'protect' people from dishonest funeral directors.

But, if they can get you to sign a legal document, by lying and saying
it is for 'transport of the body', when it is REALLY for thousands of
dollars of unwanted services, legally, you are bound to pay, unless you
can prove in court, weeks or months later, that you were defrauded.

Usually, it is only your word against theirs.

My Father taught me NEVER to sign ANTHING, without reading it first.

A valuable lesson that I'm glad I did not forget.


I was extremely fortunate in that the local funeral home wasn't trying to
talk us into anything when my father died.

He (and my mother) are buried at the National cemetery. Mom picked out
his funeral urn and when she died I got one that matched his. Green
marble. Surprisingly, his funeral cost $4000 more than [correction] HERS.
Of course he had the full military escort and 21 gun salute. [But that
was provided by the government so I'm not sure why his was so much more
expensive than hers.]

When Persia dies she will be cremated and her ashes stored in a pewter urn
on the mantle. I may decide later to bury her in said urn outside my
bedroom window.

Jill

In article ,
"jmcquown" wrote:

It may seem sort of gruesome but I'd rather not have to deal with the
details when I'm in shock. I was so unravelled when my dog Sampson died I
couldn't think straight. I really don't want to have to think about these
details when the time comes again.

Jill

We *can* think ahead for these things, so when we know that in the
moment we won't be thinking very clearly, we almost have an obligation
to make arrangements ahead of time. It's a sensible thing to do,
honestly.

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minnow ^..^

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Have been to the falls and you will have to be very slick at doing this. It
was done the day we were there, the container was not as big as one would
think and the lady slipped it out of her bag when we were at the Hurricane
falls. No one who saw it said a word.
"BfloPolska" wrote in message
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On Nov 3, 6:04 pm, "Granby" wrote:
When I needed such a thing, I found a pretty basket with a lid and put the
bag with the ashes in it until I did something with them. A neighbor used
a
metal "Milk Bone" can she got around Christmas for her poodle dog. There
are many thins that work and maybe have more meaning than the fancy ones

Fritzie's ashes were returned to us in a plain but very handsome
rosewood box, and Odessa-Doll's in a pretty black tin with little
flowers painted around it. We commited their ashes to running water,
as is Sikh custom, returning the last earthly remains to Nature after
the soul has ascended. In Fritzie's box we put the rose petals from
the bouquet the vet sent. Odessa received a mixed bouquet, so we put
one of each type of flower or plant included in the bunch. In
Fritzie's, we also placed the ornament our vet made of his paw print;
in Dolly's, the green collar she wore when she came to us and one of
her favorite toys, a nice natural-bristle makeup brush.

When Sabrina goes, we will have her cremated with her beloved wool
pieces she still likes to sleep on.

Louie has an unusual last request, and one which will land me in jail.
He wants his ashes put into a barrel-shaped receptacle and put over
Niagara Falls! I told him only if he does it for me too.

Blessed be,
Baha

"jmcquown" wrote in message
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It may seem sort of gruesome but I'd rather not have to deal with the
details when I'm in shock. I was so unravelled when my dog Sampson died I
couldn't think straight. I really don't want to have to think about these
details when the time comes again.

Jill

I don't think that's gruesome. I think it's a wise thing to do. My sister
and I even arranged for a pre-paid service for my *mother* when she entered
the nursing home. We certainly were not wishing for her death, but it saved
an enormous amount of heartache when she did die (5 years, 9 months later),
and we did not have to make basic decisions at that time. I have never made
that type of advance planning for my pets, but I did arrange for a friend to
make a tiny casket for each of my cats when I knew the time was imminent.
Cremation for cats was not easily available at that time, and I wanted to
make sure that a dog could not get to them. I planted a "memorial tree" at
each of their heads. When the time comes for Holly and Duffy--which I hope
will be many years in the future--I plan to have them cremated and scatter
the ashes in the back yard garden.

MaryL

On 05/11/2010 00:30, jmcquown wrote:

It may seem sort of gruesome but I'd rather not have to deal with the
details when I'm in shock. I was so unravelled when my dog Sampson died
I couldn't think straight. I really don't want to have to think about
these details when the time comes again.

Not gruesome at all. One day you'll be glad you thought of it
beforehand. When first Nikki and, later the same year, Frank died, I was
thankful that I had already thought out a plan for when they passed on.
Nikki's death especially was so unforeseen and sudden. When the vet
asked me what I wanted to do with her body, I would not have been able
to make any decisions then and there. But I'd already decided a couple
of years previously that I would have them both cremated and scatter
their ashes on their summer island that they loved.

The crematorium delivered their ashes in quite plain cardboard boxes,
but I didn't mind that since I was never going to keep the ashes around.
Except for a little bit of Frank's ashes that I keep in a locket around
my neck (actually, it's one of those cylinders for pets' collars. You
can screw it apart and insert a slip of paper with the pet's owner's
contact details. Well, I inserted a little of my heartcat's remains.
Now, that may seem gruesome to some, but it comforts me).

--
Marina, Miranda and Caliban.
In loving memory of Frank and Nikki.

It was your solution that inspired me to get a small bit of Bandit's hair on
her last day with us (she wasn't cremated, she was buried, with a small
headstone, in our backyard). I bought a cat locket and keep it in there.
And, no, I don't think it's gruesome at all. I think it's a lovely tribute
to one who gave you her love and life.

--
Hugs,

CatNipped
See all our masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped

See the RPCA FAQ site, by Mark Edwards, at:
http://www.professional-geek.com/rpcablog/

"Marina" wrote in message
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On 05/11/2010 00:30, jmcquown wrote:

It may seem sort of gruesome but I'd rather not have to deal with the
details when I'm in shock. I was so unravelled when my dog Sampson died
I couldn't think straight. I really don't want to have to think about
these details when the time comes again.

Not gruesome at all. One day you'll be glad you thought of it beforehand.
When first Nikki and, later the same year, Frank died, I was thankful that
I had already thought out a plan for when they passed on. Nikki's death
especially was so unforeseen and sudden. When the vet asked me what I
wanted to do with her body, I would not have been able to make any
decisions then and there. But I'd already decided a couple of years
previously that I would have them both cremated and scatter their ashes on
their summer island that they loved.

The crematorium delivered their ashes in quite plain cardboard boxes, but
I didn't mind that since I was never going to keep the ashes around.
Except for a little bit of Frank's ashes that I keep in a locket around my
neck (actually, it's one of those cylinders for pets' collars. You can
screw it apart and insert a slip of paper with the pet's owner's contact
details. Well, I inserted a little of my heartcat's remains. Now, that may
seem gruesome to some, but it comforts me).

--
Marina, Miranda and Caliban.
In loving memory of Frank and Nikki.

If you are blessed to find something that brings you comfort, then you are
indeed blessed.
"Marina" wrote in message
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On 05/11/2010 00:30, jmcquown wrote:

It may seem sort of gruesome but I'd rather not have to deal with the
details when I'm in shock. I was so unravelled when my dog Sampson died
I couldn't think straight. I really don't want to have to think about
these details when the time comes again.

Not gruesome at all. One day you'll be glad you thought of it beforehand.
When first Nikki and, later the same year, Frank died, I was thankful that
I had already thought out a plan for when they passed on. Nikki's death
especially was so unforeseen and sudden. When the vet asked me what I
wanted to do with her body, I would not have been able to make any
decisions then and there. But I'd already decided a couple of years
previously that I would have them both cremated and scatter their ashes on
their summer island that they loved.

The crematorium delivered their ashes in quite plain cardboard boxes, but
I didn't mind that since I was never going to keep the ashes around.
Except for a little bit of Frank's ashes that I keep in a locket around my
neck (actually, it's one of those cylinders for pets' collars. You can
screw it apart and insert a slip of paper with the pet's owner's contact
details. Well, I inserted a little of my heartcat's remains. Now, that may
seem gruesome to some, but it comforts me).

--
Marina, Miranda and Caliban.
In loving memory of Frank and Nikki.