Indoor cat..quality of life?

"Mary" wrote in message
m...

" It is clear that Bob is an idiot

How rude! Where is your civility?

The same place yours is
Alison

"Mary" wrote:

"Yngver" wrote in message
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MadHatter wrote:

...or that cat died of boredom. my cat has LOTS to do at home.
plenty of places to hide, lots of things and humans to hunt. lots of
things to shred and tear.

That's great for your cat, but lots of cats *do* die of boredom, in the
sense
that bored cats have nothing much more to do than eat and sleep, and
obesity
has contributed to the shortened lifespans of many an indoor cat--as do
behavioral problems. Not everyone makes up for the lack of exercise and
mental
stimulation that cats experience outdoors by making sure their indoor cats
get
plenty of exercise and playtime.

And needless to say, not everyone who lets their cats out has given adequate
thought to the dangers in their particular neighborhood. In the end the
outdoors
is still far more dangerous than the indoors, generally speaking.

I'd have to see some objective evidence to support this statement. As Dr.
Dodman has pointed out, a leading cause of mortality among U.S. cats is
euthanasia due to behavioral problems.

"Mary" wrote:

"Yngver" wrote in message
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MadHatter wrote:

...or that cat died of boredom. my cat has LOTS to do at home.
plenty of places to hide, lots of things and humans to hunt. lots of
things to shred and tear.

That's great for your cat, but lots of cats *do* die of boredom, in the
sense
that bored cats have nothing much more to do than eat and sleep, and
obesity
has contributed to the shortened lifespans of many an indoor cat--as do
behavioral problems. Not everyone makes up for the lack of exercise and
mental
stimulation that cats experience outdoors by making sure their indoor cats
get
plenty of exercise and playtime.

And needless to say, not everyone who lets their cats out has given adequate
thought to the dangers in their particular neighborhood. In the end the
outdoors
is still far more dangerous than the indoors, generally speaking.

I'd have to see some objective evidence to support this statement. As Dr.
Dodman has pointed out, a leading cause of mortality among U.S. cats is
euthanasia due to behavioral problems.

"Yngver" wrote in message
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"Mary" wrote:

"Yngver" wrote in message
...
MadHatter wrote:

...or that cat died of boredom. my cat has LOTS to do at home.
plenty of places to hide, lots of things and humans to hunt. lots of
things to shred and tear.

That's great for your cat, but lots of cats *do* die of boredom, in the
sense
that bored cats have nothing much more to do than eat and sleep, and
obesity
has contributed to the shortened lifespans of many an indoor cat--as do
behavioral problems. Not everyone makes up for the lack of exercise and
mental
stimulation that cats experience outdoors by making sure their indoor
cats
get
plenty of exercise and playtime.

And needless to say, not everyone who lets their cats out has given
adequate
thought to the dangers in their particular neighborhood. In the end the
outdoors
is still far more dangerous than the indoors, generally speaking.

I'd have to see some objective evidence to support this statement. As Dr.
Dodman has pointed out, a leading cause of mortality among U.S. cats is
euthanasia due to behavioral problems.

I think we've gone over the statistics issue. It seems we are now going
in circles. In circles around a *really* dead horse. I'm done!

"Yngver" wrote in message
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"Mary" wrote:

"Yngver" wrote in message
...
MadHatter wrote:

...or that cat died of boredom. my cat has LOTS to do at home.
plenty of places to hide, lots of things and humans to hunt. lots of
things to shred and tear.

That's great for your cat, but lots of cats *do* die of boredom, in the
sense
that bored cats have nothing much more to do than eat and sleep, and
obesity
has contributed to the shortened lifespans of many an indoor cat--as do
behavioral problems. Not everyone makes up for the lack of exercise and
mental
stimulation that cats experience outdoors by making sure their indoor
cats
get
plenty of exercise and playtime.

And needless to say, not everyone who lets their cats out has given
adequate
thought to the dangers in their particular neighborhood. In the end the
outdoors
is still far more dangerous than the indoors, generally speaking.

I'd have to see some objective evidence to support this statement. As Dr.
Dodman has pointed out, a leading cause of mortality among U.S. cats is
euthanasia due to behavioral problems.

I think we've gone over the statistics issue. It seems we are now going
in circles. In circles around a *really* dead horse. I'm done!

Mary" writes
There is nothing wrong with holding strong beliefs, or
opinions grounded in strong moral values. It does get on the nerves of those
who have a hard time defending the opposite position, though."

It also gets on the nerves of those who have an easy time defending their own
views. And, unfortunately, many do have strong beliefs that aren't grounded in
strong moral values. Bob Benchley, for example.

Mary" writes
There is nothing wrong with holding strong beliefs, or
opinions grounded in strong moral values. It does get on the nerves of those
who have a hard time defending the opposite position, though."

It also gets on the nerves of those who have an easy time defending their own
views. And, unfortunately, many do have strong beliefs that aren't grounded in
strong moral values. Bob Benchley, for example.

"Alison" writes

Many, many people let ther cats out in the US and Canada , can you
tell me what reasons they give for letting their cats out?

1. Their parents did it when they had pets as children.
2. They thought that's the way it is supposed to be.
3. They don't think about it.
4. They also believe that neutering/spaying their pet takes away from their
abilities to be a natural cat. etc.

"Alison" writes

Many, many people let ther cats out in the US and Canada , can you
tell me what reasons they give for letting their cats out?

1. Their parents did it when they had pets as children.
2. They thought that's the way it is supposed to be.
3. They don't think about it.
4. They also believe that neutering/spaying their pet takes away from their
abilities to be a natural cat. etc.

that's cool how does he travel? oh a leash? Shaina now ventures
into the hallway, outside the apartment, but not too far and if the
door closes, she makes these incredible jumps for the handle. i've
also taken her downstairs, to the lobby and she explores, but very
cautiously. i don't want her to be afraid of stuff. i will need to
travel with her at some point, and i also don't want her to be afraid
to go to the vet, to be afraid of the outside.

-L

He's on a harness & Leash. She carries him mostly while shopping with the leash
around her wrist just in case, but that cat is so oblivious to any hustle &
bustle around him. Or in Petsmart he always sits in the buggy and she holds the
leash. She started by taking him *everywhere* and exposing him to lots of
people, as a kitten. It's weird. People don't pay much attention to dog
companions, but when somebody's got a cat with them, they act like they've
never seen a cat before.

Sherry