BENGAL cats

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Think about this scenario as an illustration:

Someone comes into the shelter to adopt a cat. We try to talk them into
a nice older cat that pees all over the place. No? How about this nice,
younger cat who has separation anxiety and will destroy your mini
blinds the first time you leave him alone. No again? You want to see a
kitten?
"Well, sorry, We can't let you adopt a kitten, since you don't want
these two cats with behavior issues, you might dump your kitten at the
first sign of non-acceptable behavior."

Sherry

OK, I understand that. I guess what I'm having a problem with in this
particular conversation is Philip's attitude that he is superior to the
"eccentric" people here who believe that cats are a part of their family and
not just an animate possession. To get much more specific - *I* wouldn't
allow him to adopt a cat from a shelter *I* ran.

Hugs,

CatNipped

"Philip" wrote in message
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CatNipped wrote:
"Mary" wrote in message
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Oh God. Please tell me someone didn't really say "birthing a
baby"...that is so disrespectful of children. Cats aren't children.
Cats deserve love and dedication like children do. Companion
animals are a life-long committment. But they are in NO WAY the
same as having a child. That's ludicrous.



CN has borne her own children from her own body. I think she
knows what she is talking about.

And to elaborate...

*ANY* living being under my roof has my love and protection, so in
*that way*, yes it is the same as having a child. Just as I would
not "get rid of" one of my children who had a behavioral problem,
neither would I "get rid of" one of my cats who had a behavioral
problem. I would either work relentlessly to correct the problem or
learn to live with it. I've never "purchased" a cat, an animate
possession. I've adopted cats, sentient beings. And the commitment
that entails lasts for the life of the cat.
*EVERYTHING* non-living in my home, including my home, takes second
place to all of the creatures living there. If I had to make a
choice between my house and my cats, I'd be packing my bags right now.

As for what Sherry posted, "At one time I'd have probably suggested
you get a Beanie Baby, but I'm starting to understand that *everyone*
isn't as passionate toward cats as most of us regular posters are,
but still make excellent cat owners with the right match." Sorry,
but I disagree with that. The problem with the above statement is
that if the cat becomes ill, injured, old, or just an inconvenience,
which any living being is likely to do, then the cat will be
abandoned or euthanized in a New York second. If you're not
passionate towards a living being in your care then you should find
someone to take it who is.

Hugs,

CatNipped

Ok "CP", let's play: What If?

Your house is well engulfed in fire. Your husband and two children are
standing on the sidewalk with you watching the flames. Suddenly you
little daughter cries out "Mommy! There's Pussycat in the bedroom
window!!" (on the second floor).

Are you going to risk your own life and thereby risking your children
growing up with some other woman raising them (husbands DO remarry) and
race into the burning house to attempt rescue or ... let the cat die?

That's "CN" as in CatNipped, not "CP" as in Cat Protector - different
poster, different sex. And, no, I don't want to play with you - take your
balls and go home. ;

Yes, I would try to save the cat - but my cats would be leaving the house at
the same time as the rest of us, so I wouldn't have to rush back in to save
them. I'm sure though, in *your* rush to save your valued *things* you
might forget to grab your cat on the way out since cats are so much less
important than that $5,000 savings bond (because, of course, that savings
bond could be used to take care of your *real* family, right?).

"Philip" wrote in message
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-L. wrote:
Philip wrote:

Dear lady ... calm down. Contain your hostility.

From the beginning, I had no doubt that I would meet up with a
person or two operating with an unhealthy dedication to their pets.
You have suggested as much with your "birthing a baby" analogy.

Oh God. Please tell me someone didn't really say "birthing a
baby"...that is so disrespectful of children. Cats aren't children.
Cats deserve love and dedication like children do. Companion animals
are a life-long committment. But they are in NO WAY the same as
having a child. That's ludicrous.

Somewhere in THIS thread I believe, one of your more eccentric members
(CatNipped) used those words in that order! Really. It was in the last 2
days.

And you're chiding others here about *their* reading comprehension?!!

"Philip" wrote in message
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Six toed cats are not very common and from what I have read from breeders'
websites, a responsible breeder has such a cat 'fixed' immediately.

I take it you've never been to Hemmingway's house in Key West?

And yes, actually, polydactyls *are* very common.

"-L." wrote in message
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Philip wrote:

Somewhere in THIS thread I believe, one of your more eccentric
members
(CatNipped) used those words in that order! Really. It was in the
last 2
days.

Feh. Figures.

Ohmygawd, she actually left my screen name in quoted text!!!!! She must be
growing a set of ovaries at last!

In article ,
enlightened us with...

My point being, if you talk someone like the above theoretical person
INTO taking the cat anyway, they won't be happy with it, and will
resent the hell out of the cat. The cat will end up back at the
shelter, or they'll give it to someone else. That's *exactly* what you
don't want to happen.

Again, true. But I would rather try to talk them out of getting a cat at
all. I think for those people a Chia pet would be more approriate! ;

However, that doesn't mean that person wouldn't make an excellent pet
owner with the right match.

The lack of willingness to take on a cat that already has behavioral
problems doesn't necessarily mean a person is automatically going to
dump *their own* cat at the first little inconvenience.

That is the part I tend to disagree with. I don't know, maybe they would
come to love the cat enough to take care of it, but I've seen too many
people either dump a cat out on the street or turn it into a kill shelter.
I've become cynical in my old age, I guess.

You ARE cynical. All of us who have worked in shelters see things a bit,
well, skewed, really. I know I have lost a good deal of my faith in humanity
between working in shelters and working in retail.

My mother would never take in a cat with problems and is extremely picky
about behavior.

But she adopted a cat and she loves him to pieces and has put up with more
than I thought she would -- because she loves him. He was a chewer when he
was teething until he finished breaking back molars. She didn't just dump him
off. She followed my advice on making SURE she closed the closet door so he
couldn't get to the shoes and using bitter apple to deter cord chewing and so
on. Now full grown, sometimes he goes up on tables when she isn't looking
(glass tables show pawprints). She used to flip out about that concept, but
now she's all "Aww, I guess he just wants to look out the window" and she
bought him a big cat thingy that he can lie by the window on.

For many people, there's a big difference between what they'll "put up with",
so to speak, from a strange animal versus one they already love and are
attached to. Heck, I think that's the case for any living being. I put up
with more crap from people I love than from people I don't know.

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"Philip" wrote in message
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Now THIS IS information that I have been looking for ... instead of some
of the judgmental barking I've been subjected to (Hey CatProphylactic).
Thank you. DOES the wild blood in a Bengal predispose them to some
unusual disorders or skeletal deficiencies? Ditto Ocicats? With the
exception of a pair of Siamese I owned (and lived to 19 and 18 years of
age), all the cats I've had have been mainstream shorthairs conceived in
some alley. LOL

Aw, look at this. Lyn has found somebody who is as much of a control freak
as she is!! It's a match made in heaven!

I received an adoption questionnaire today. The questions asked were WAY
beyond reasonable and were second only to a Census form with their
intrusive inquiries. That outfit can keep their animals until they croak
for all I care. And I'd be willing to bet there is a fair amount of
animal returns inspite of all that "screening" because with all that
prequalification, the adopting person(s) should develop higher
expectations.

Good for them! At least one shelter has sense enough not to adopt to this
anal-retentive ass.

"Philip" wrote in message
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KellyH wrote:
"Philip" wrote
Ok, let's talk about this point. Here are some unacceptable
behaviors: Repeatedly urinating in random locations about the house.
Defecating on a pillow or other places beyond the litter box. Shredding
furniture. Biting visitors. Frequent / expensive vet bills due to
physical /
genetic defects. This is going to sound cold and unloving to read
but here goes: An indoor cat resides with me/us at our descretion. Cats
have always figured out the simply behavior rules pretty quick.
Even the rare times Rusty would yak up a furball, he'd do it on the
tile floor a few feet away from the litter box ... not on a fabric
surface. (you probably don't want to know how I taught him where it
was ok to yak).

So how do you know a kitten is not going to have any of these
problems? What if he does develop something down the line? My
brother adopted the most adorable 8 week old kitten two years ago,
and last year he developed eosiphilic (sp?) granuloma complex, which
requires him to get a shot every three months. What would you do if
this was your cat? Take him back to the shelter after a year and say
"sorry, he's defective"? Luckily, my brother's not that type of person.

And no, I probably don't want to know how you taught your cat where
it was ok to yak. My cats are free to yak wherever they happen to be.

This post is not worthy of a response ... on several points.

No *YOU'RE* not worthy of Kelly's response, and it's telling now - man is it
telling.

"kaeli" wrote in message
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In article ,
enlightened
us with...

"kaeli" wrote in message
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In article ,
enlightened us with...

And please, don't act like you did not expect your comments
to upset people. You are in a group where most of the people
who read and post really love cats. Use your head.

*must...not...make...the...obvious...joke...*
*splutters*

I'm okay, really.



No, make the obvious joke! Even if I am the butt! I like
jokes! (Duhhh, I don't get it.)

I was going to make a joke about *which* head to use, but Philip e-mailed
me
privately and I decided he's actually a nice and normal guy, so I won't
make
any dick jokes.
LOL

Really!!!? You've *got* to be kidding me. From the posts here he sounds
like a real asshole!

Hugs,

CatNipped

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"kaeli" wrote in message
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In article .net, 1chip-
enlightened us with...

Who wants to claim this post??:


You've missed some drama.
Everyone knows who posted what. But a couple people claim to have
killfiled
other people but still manage to respond to the posts by said supposedly
killfiled people.

Welcome to the NG Of Our Lives. This week on NOUL, we'll have people
accusing other people of being assholes, bitches, or whatnot, people
telling
other people to stay on topic dammit, people responding to those people
telling them to not respond to OT posts or to label them as such, and
people
getting ****ed off that people are getting ****ed off at OT posts.
*eg*

ROTFLMAOWTIME! Truer words.... ;

Hugs,

CatNipped

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