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Old August 3rd 10, 08:50 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Christina Websell[_2_]
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Default The cat treats I bought

I finally got a reply from Bob Martin who market the treats I bought.
Unlike Whiskas who assured me their food was safe from Chinese products,
this is very different:
-----

Thank you for your enquiry.

We cannot guarantee that all our suppliers use only UK sources and would
not like to mislead you by suggesting otherwise. Therefore,
unfortunately we cannot give you the assurance you are looking for.

Please be assured though that it is a primary business objective and
commitment to our consumers for us to ensure that our products are of
the highest quality.

Once again thank you for taking the time and trouble of contacting Bob
Martin.

Yours sincerely

Sarah Smith
Consumer Relations
Bob Martin (UK) Ltd
--------

I absolutely knew it!
Treats are back in the garbage now.
Told you so!
Read "we cannot say where our ingredients come from to say that they are
safe"
No, because you got your ingredients from China and are afraid to say so.
I just caught you out.

Tweed







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Old August 3rd 10, 09:28 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Stormmee
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Default The cat treats I bought

definitely trash, Lee
"Christina Websell" wrote in message
...
I finally got a reply from Bob Martin who market the treats I bought.
Unlike Whiskas who assured me their food was safe from Chinese products,
this is very different:
-----

Thank you for your enquiry.

We cannot guarantee that all our suppliers use only UK sources and would
not like to mislead you by suggesting otherwise. Therefore,
unfortunately we cannot give you the assurance you are looking for.

Please be assured though that it is a primary business objective and
commitment to our consumers for us to ensure that our products are of
the highest quality.

Once again thank you for taking the time and trouble of contacting Bob
Martin.

Yours sincerely

Sarah Smith
Consumer Relations
Bob Martin (UK) Ltd
--------

I absolutely knew it!
Treats are back in the garbage now.
Told you so!
Read "we cannot say where our ingredients come from to say that they are
safe"
No, because you got your ingredients from China and are afraid to say so.
I just caught you out.

Tweed









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Old August 3rd 10, 09:40 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Dan M
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Default The cat treats I bought

On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 15:28:28 -0500, Stormmee wrote:

definitely trash, Lee


It seems incomprehensible to me that manufacturers of edible products
could be so blind as to not realize that some customers actually care
about where the ingedients in their product come from. Maybe there are
more uncaring customers than I realized, but they must realize that
selling potentially contaminated products is a very bad idea.

Manufacturers who still use edible ingredients from China are on my
"never buy" list.
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Old August 3rd 10, 10:53 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Kyla =^..^=[_5_]
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We don't buy our cats treats. They don't like them and Mosey hurkes them
up.Love, Kyla

definitely trash, Lee
"Christina Websell" ...
I finally got a reply from Bob Martin who market the treats I bought.
Unlike Whiskas who assured me their food was safe from Chinese products,
this is very different:
-----

Thank you for your enquiry.

We cannot guarantee that all our suppliers use only UK sources and would
not like to mislead you by suggesting otherwise. Therefore,
unfortunately we cannot give you the assurance you are looking for.

Please be assured though that it is a primary business objective and
commitment to our consumers for us to ensure that our products are of
the highest quality.

Once again thank you for taking the time and trouble of contacting Bob
Martin.

Yours sincerely

Sarah Smith
Consumer Relations
Bob Martin (UK) Ltd
--------

I absolutely knew it!
Treats are back in the garbage now.
Told you so!
Read "we cannot say where our ingredients come from to say that they are
safe"
No, because you got your ingredients from China and are afraid to say so.
I just caught you out.

Tweed











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Old August 4th 10, 12:09 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Dan M
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Default The cat treats I bought

On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 00:03:02 +0100, Jack Campin - bogus address wrote:

Manufacturers who still use edible ingredients from China are on my
"never buy" list.


The Chinese put the managers of the firm involved up against a wall and
shot them. Which is one way of doing quality control. Not the way I'd
like to see it done, but it does make a statement about accountability.

Meanwhile the director of BP walks out of his job with a pension of
millions of pounds per year after killing 11 workers and causing damage
nobody will ever be able to measure.

And the directors of Union Carbide killed about 16,000 people in the
Bhopal disaster, injured half a million, with thousands blinded or
totally disabled, and have only received the most trivial punishment for
what they did.

China is not by a *long* shot the country that most needs boycotting on
grounds of corporate irresponsibility.


Don't worry, I boycott BP and Union Carbide as well. I also boycott
Walmart for the damage they do to local business and their suppliers,
McDonalds for various reasons, Best Western for off-shoring their IT
department a few years ago, etc.

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Old August 4th 10, 12:23 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Christina Websell[_2_]
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"Stormmee" wrote in message
...
definitely trash, Lee
"Christina Websell" wrote in message
...
I finally got a reply from Bob Martin who market the treats I bought.
Unlike Whiskas who assured me their food was safe from Chinese products,
this is very different:
-----

Thank you for your enquiry.

We cannot guarantee that all our suppliers use only UK sources and would
not like to mislead you by suggesting otherwise. Therefore,
unfortunately we cannot give you the assurance you are looking for.

Please be assured though that it is a primary business objective and
commitment to our consumers for us to ensure that our products are of
the highest quality.

Once again thank you for taking the time and trouble of contacting Bob
Martin.

Yours sincerely

Sarah Smith
Consumer Relations
Bob Martin (UK) Ltd
--------

I absolutely knew it!
Treats are back in the garbage now.
Told you so!
Read "we cannot say where our ingredients come from to say that they are
safe"
No, because you got your ingredients from China and are afraid to say so.
I just caught you out.

Tweed











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Old August 4th 10, 12:34 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
MaryL
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Default The cat treats I bought


"Christina Websell" wrote in message
...


Tweed, are Liv-A-Littles treats available in the UK? Holly and Duffy
absolutely love them. They are freeze-dried treats that should be
refrigerated after they are opened. They come in several varieties, and my
twosome prefer the chicken variety. I break them up into small pieces.
Duffy will come running from anywhere in the house if I just shake the
container a little. I think they would fit the criteria you have for kitty
treats.

You can read about them he
http://www.halopets.com/

MaryL

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Old August 4th 10, 12:37 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Takayuki
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Default The cat treats I bought

"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote:
"Christina Websell" wrote in message
...


Tweed, are Liv-A-Littles treats available in the UK? Holly and Duffy
absolutely love them. They are freeze-dried treats that should be
refrigerated after they are opened. They come in several varieties, and my
twosome prefer the chicken variety. I break them up into small pieces.
Duffy will come running from anywhere in the house if I just shake the
container a little. I think they would fit the criteria you have for kitty
treats.

You can read about them he
http://www.halopets.com/


Buster is indifferent to them. Dot goes insane for them. I buy five
jars at a time for her from Amazon.
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Old August 4th 10, 02:01 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Ted Davis[_3_]
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On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 20:50:19 +0100, Christina Websell wrote:

I finally got a reply from Bob Martin who market the treats I bought.
Unlike Whiskas who assured me their food was safe from Chinese products,
this is very different:


Not having access to the exact wording of the Whiskas assurance, I can't
compare the two, but ...

I strongly doubt that the assurance means anything other than they don't
buy *directly* from Chinese sources. I doubt there is any way they can
even know for sure where their suppliers are getting their materials. As
far as I know, there is no reasonable way to test for country of origin
of all the ingredients in a composite, nor to be certain that what they
are told by their top tier suppliers is, in fact, true (if they are told
something by a salesman, there is a good chance it isn't).

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Ted Davis )
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Old August 4th 10, 02:39 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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Default The cat treats I bought

Ted Davis wrote:

I strongly doubt that the assurance means anything other than they don't
buy *directly* from Chinese sources. I doubt there is any way they can
even know for sure where their suppliers are getting their materials. As
far as I know, there is no reasonable way to test for country of origin
of all the ingredients in a composite, nor to be certain that what they
are told by their top tier suppliers is, in fact, true (if they are told
something by a salesman, there is a good chance it isn't).


I agree - there are so many layers of buyers and suppliers that it's
nearly impossible to find out where everything came from. What I have
read is that, for any given shipment, the origin of the goods being
shipped is required on the shipping paperwork. So I guess if you were
able to track each ingredient on the package of cat treats, and where
the ingredients of each of *those* ingredients came from, and then
tracked the ingredients of each of *those* ingredients... and so forth,
you would eventually come up with a huge tree of all the manufacturers
involved (which might look more like tangled spaghetti ).

Combine this with the fact that any manufacturer on that tree might
choose one vendor over another for some of the ingredients at any given
time, depending on price, availability, or other factors, you might not
be able to find out which one was used for the final product in question.
(But if you just wanted to know whether China was a *possibility* among
all countries where the components were made, I guess you could find
that out.)

You would definitely have to hire a private detective for this job!

Joyce

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