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at wrote on 9/14/03 3:28 PM: Story of years of unnecessary cat mutilations and current plans to possibly mutilate another innocent kitten snipped If you can't live with a cat with claws, take the kitten back and only adopt already declawed cats. There's plenty of them available. Mutilating current or future cats for your own convenience has to stop. This idea that the kitten will somehow maim the older cat simply because it has claws is ridiculous. There are many of us here that have had declawed and clawed cats live together for their whole lives wihout the declawed cats suffering claw related injuries. I think your wife needs to either stop being so ignorant or seriously rethink her choice of pets if she can't learn to live with them without mutilating them and causing them painful trauma and an irreversible handicap. Anyone that knows what declawing is and still chooses to do it is heartless and should not be trusted with cats. That includes your vet. Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray The vet seems particularly suspicious to me. I've never known even vets that declaw to four paw declaw. I can just hardly believe this vet does it routinely. I would certainly find a different vet! Karen |
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in article ,
at wrote on 9/14/03 3:28 PM: Story of years of unnecessary cat mutilations and current plans to possibly mutilate another innocent kitten snipped If you can't live with a cat with claws, take the kitten back and only adopt already declawed cats. There's plenty of them available. Mutilating current or future cats for your own convenience has to stop. This idea that the kitten will somehow maim the older cat simply because it has claws is ridiculous. There are many of us here that have had declawed and clawed cats live together for their whole lives wihout the declawed cats suffering claw related injuries. I think your wife needs to either stop being so ignorant or seriously rethink her choice of pets if she can't learn to live with them without mutilating them and causing them painful trauma and an irreversible handicap. Anyone that knows what declawing is and still chooses to do it is heartless and should not be trusted with cats. That includes your vet. Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray The vet seems particularly suspicious to me. I've never known even vets that declaw to four paw declaw. I can just hardly believe this vet does it routinely. I would certainly find a different vet! Karen |
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"Karen Chuplis" wrote in message ... in article , The vet seems particularly suspicious to me. I've never known even vets that declaw to four paw declaw. I can just hardly believe this vet does it routinely. I would certainly find a different vet! Karen I agree. This part of the message seemed particularly suspicious to me. I am not trying to start a flame war, but I would like to reinforce Karen's statement that even vets who declaw will seldom consent to four-paw declaw. My vet told me that he has only declawed all four paws once in his long career, and that was because the woman said she was going to euthanize the cat if he did not consent. I hope you will look for another vet. This vet may have some fine skills, but he is lacking in compassion and the quality of caring that should be an essential part of the relationship. As to whether clawed and declawed cats can get along -- yes, they certainly can. Your cats will generally engage in play, which sometimes will seem aggressive to you. Even if it is vigorous play, it would be extremely rare for one cat to literally "scratch" the other. Both of my cats have very healthy (and very sharp!) claws. Neither has ever caused any damage to the other, and one of them is blind. MaryL Photos of Duffy and Holly (pictorial history of my blind cat Duffy's integration into our household): Duffy, Part I: The Introduction -- http://tinyurl.com/8y54 Duffy, Part II: Life at Home -- http://tinyurl.com/8y56 |
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"Karen Chuplis" wrote in message ... in article , The vet seems particularly suspicious to me. I've never known even vets that declaw to four paw declaw. I can just hardly believe this vet does it routinely. I would certainly find a different vet! Karen I agree. This part of the message seemed particularly suspicious to me. I am not trying to start a flame war, but I would like to reinforce Karen's statement that even vets who declaw will seldom consent to four-paw declaw. My vet told me that he has only declawed all four paws once in his long career, and that was because the woman said she was going to euthanize the cat if he did not consent. I hope you will look for another vet. This vet may have some fine skills, but he is lacking in compassion and the quality of caring that should be an essential part of the relationship. As to whether clawed and declawed cats can get along -- yes, they certainly can. Your cats will generally engage in play, which sometimes will seem aggressive to you. Even if it is vigorous play, it would be extremely rare for one cat to literally "scratch" the other. Both of my cats have very healthy (and very sharp!) claws. Neither has ever caused any damage to the other, and one of them is blind. MaryL Photos of Duffy and Holly (pictorial history of my blind cat Duffy's integration into our household): Duffy, Part I: The Introduction -- http://tinyurl.com/8y54 Duffy, Part II: Life at Home -- http://tinyurl.com/8y56 |
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"Karen Chuplis" wrote in message ... in article , The vet seems particularly suspicious to me. I've never known even vets that declaw to four paw declaw. I can just hardly believe this vet does it routinely. I would certainly find a different vet! Karen I agree. This part of the message seemed particularly suspicious to me. I am not trying to start a flame war, but I would like to reinforce Karen's statement that even vets who declaw will seldom consent to four-paw declaw. My vet told me that he has only declawed all four paws once in his long career, and that was because the woman said she was going to euthanize the cat if he did not consent. I hope you will look for another vet. This vet may have some fine skills, but he is lacking in compassion and the quality of caring that should be an essential part of the relationship. As to whether clawed and declawed cats can get along -- yes, they certainly can. Your cats will generally engage in play, which sometimes will seem aggressive to you. Even if it is vigorous play, it would be extremely rare for one cat to literally "scratch" the other. Both of my cats have very healthy (and very sharp!) claws. Neither has ever caused any damage to the other, and one of them is blind. MaryL Photos of Duffy and Holly (pictorial history of my blind cat Duffy's integration into our household): Duffy, Part I: The Introduction -- http://tinyurl.com/8y54 Duffy, Part II: Life at Home -- http://tinyurl.com/8y56 |
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MaryL wrote:
"Karen Chuplis" wrote in message ... in article , The vet seems particularly suspicious to me. I've never known even vets that declaw to four paw declaw. I can just hardly believe this vet does it routinely. I would certainly find a different vet! Karen I agree. This part of the message seemed particularly suspicious to me. I am not trying to start a flame war, but I would like to reinforce Karen's statement that even vets who declaw will seldom consent to four-paw declaw. My vet told me that he has only declawed all four paws once in his long career, and that was because the woman said she was going to euthanize the cat if he did not consent. I hope you will look for another vet. This vet may have some fine skills, but he is lacking in compassion and the quality of caring that should be an essential part of the relationship. Personally, I've suspected that he doesn't quite have enough of the compassion/caring that he should for a while, but as long as he's technically capable, we really don't want to go through the enormous challenge of locating a vet that's the "right" one, especially since we're planning to move out of the area as soon as we can. As to whether clawed and declawed cats can get along -- yes, they certainly can. Your cats will generally engage in play, which sometimes will seem aggressive to you. Even if it is vigorous play, it would be extremely rare for one cat to literally "scratch" the other. Both of my cats have very healthy (and very sharp!) claws. Neither has ever caused any damage to the other, and one of them is blind. MaryL Thanks for your post. brian -- If you want to reply to this message by mail, you will have to change the reply address to |
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MaryL wrote:
"Karen Chuplis" wrote in message ... in article , The vet seems particularly suspicious to me. I've never known even vets that declaw to four paw declaw. I can just hardly believe this vet does it routinely. I would certainly find a different vet! Karen I agree. This part of the message seemed particularly suspicious to me. I am not trying to start a flame war, but I would like to reinforce Karen's statement that even vets who declaw will seldom consent to four-paw declaw. My vet told me that he has only declawed all four paws once in his long career, and that was because the woman said she was going to euthanize the cat if he did not consent. I hope you will look for another vet. This vet may have some fine skills, but he is lacking in compassion and the quality of caring that should be an essential part of the relationship. Personally, I've suspected that he doesn't quite have enough of the compassion/caring that he should for a while, but as long as he's technically capable, we really don't want to go through the enormous challenge of locating a vet that's the "right" one, especially since we're planning to move out of the area as soon as we can. As to whether clawed and declawed cats can get along -- yes, they certainly can. Your cats will generally engage in play, which sometimes will seem aggressive to you. Even if it is vigorous play, it would be extremely rare for one cat to literally "scratch" the other. Both of my cats have very healthy (and very sharp!) claws. Neither has ever caused any damage to the other, and one of them is blind. MaryL Thanks for your post. brian -- If you want to reply to this message by mail, you will have to change the reply address to |
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MaryL wrote:
"Karen Chuplis" wrote in message ... in article , The vet seems particularly suspicious to me. I've never known even vets that declaw to four paw declaw. I can just hardly believe this vet does it routinely. I would certainly find a different vet! Karen I agree. This part of the message seemed particularly suspicious to me. I am not trying to start a flame war, but I would like to reinforce Karen's statement that even vets who declaw will seldom consent to four-paw declaw. My vet told me that he has only declawed all four paws once in his long career, and that was because the woman said she was going to euthanize the cat if he did not consent. I hope you will look for another vet. This vet may have some fine skills, but he is lacking in compassion and the quality of caring that should be an essential part of the relationship. Personally, I've suspected that he doesn't quite have enough of the compassion/caring that he should for a while, but as long as he's technically capable, we really don't want to go through the enormous challenge of locating a vet that's the "right" one, especially since we're planning to move out of the area as soon as we can. As to whether clawed and declawed cats can get along -- yes, they certainly can. Your cats will generally engage in play, which sometimes will seem aggressive to you. Even if it is vigorous play, it would be extremely rare for one cat to literally "scratch" the other. Both of my cats have very healthy (and very sharp!) claws. Neither has ever caused any damage to the other, and one of them is blind. MaryL Thanks for your post. brian -- If you want to reply to this message by mail, you will have to change the reply address to |
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Karen Chuplis wrote:
Personally I think you just need to do a slow introduction. Clawed and declawed cats can do fine together. I'm glad you've seen the light about declawing. We did the slow introduction when we got the kitten (it took about a week to introduce the new kitten to Golddust, as opposed to a couple of days with the earlier introductions of new kittens to Pepper), and they've been together for about a month now, so are you suggesting we separate and re-introduce them? Thanks for your post... brian -- If you want to reply to this message by mail, you will have to change the reply address to |
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