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April 9th 04, 04:57 PM
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Anyone have experience with Chylothorax?
I had to get Omar to the vet last night as he was having trouble
breathing. Xrays showed fluid around his lungs and they took 170 mls out. The fluid fits the visual description of chlye to a T and will be analyzed but won't go to the lab until later today. :-( Omar also had an irregular heartbeat and I suspect that HCM or similar may be the underlying cause but won't know for sure until ultrasound is performed, which I'm trying to set up right now. Has anyone had this happen? Has Rutin been tried to try to minimize or stop pleural effusion and was it effective? Once the underlying cause was treated did the Chylothorax resolve and did the cat survive? Any experience with this is welcome. I'm prepared to do whatever it takes to get Omar through this, not just for Omar, but for Sam too as he and Omar have adored each other since the day they met and I want to keep them together as long as I can because they are so good for and to each other and love each other SO much. Losing Omar would devastate both of us. Here is a pic that makes it clear how close they a http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL320...6/44264430.jpg Thanks, Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray 
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April 9th 04, 06:37 PM
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wrote in message ... I had to get Omar to the vet last night as he was having trouble breathing. Xrays showed fluid around his lungs and they took 170 mls out. The fluid fits the visual description of chlye to a T and will be analyzed but won't go to the lab until later today. :-( Omar also had an irregular heartbeat and I suspect that HCM or similar may be the underlying cause but won't know for sure until ultrasound is performed, which I'm trying to set up right now. Has anyone had this happen? Has Rutin been tried to try to minimize or stop pleural effusion and was it effective? Once the underlying cause was treated did the Chylothorax resolve and did the cat survive? Any experience with this is welcome. I'm prepared to do whatever it takes to get Omar through this, not just for Omar, but for Sam too as he and Omar have adored each other since the day they met and I want to keep them together as long as I can because they are so good for and to each other and love each other SO much. Losing Omar would devastate both of us. Here is a pic that makes it clear how close they a http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL320...6/44264430.jpg No experience but I hope you find a treatment for Omar. How old is he? Karen
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April 9th 04, 06:37 PM
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wrote in message ... I had to get Omar to the vet last night as he was having trouble breathing. Xrays showed fluid around his lungs and they took 170 mls out. The fluid fits the visual description of chlye to a T and will be analyzed but won't go to the lab until later today. :-( Omar also had an irregular heartbeat and I suspect that HCM or similar may be the underlying cause but won't know for sure until ultrasound is performed, which I'm trying to set up right now. Has anyone had this happen? Has Rutin been tried to try to minimize or stop pleural effusion and was it effective? Once the underlying cause was treated did the Chylothorax resolve and did the cat survive? Any experience with this is welcome. I'm prepared to do whatever it takes to get Omar through this, not just for Omar, but for Sam too as he and Omar have adored each other since the day they met and I want to keep them together as long as I can because they are so good for and to each other and love each other SO much. Losing Omar would devastate both of us. Here is a pic that makes it clear how close they a http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL320...6/44264430.jpg No experience but I hope you find a treatment for Omar. How old is he? Karen
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April 10th 04, 02:53 AM
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I had to get Omar to the vet last night as he was having trouble
breathing. Xrays showed fluid around his lungs and they took 170 mls out. The fluid fits the visual description of chlye to a T and will be analyzed but won't go to the lab until later today. :-( Remember that Paul who used to be a regular poster here a few years back? I think it was Paul Cook or something and he had a cat named Zipper that he was very devoted to? It seems like Zipper had chylothorax and he survived. I believe he ultimately died of cancer a year or 2 later but whatever the treatment was for his chylothorax, I think it worked. I don't know if you can Google that info and find the old posts. Candace (take the litter out before replying by e-mail) See my cats: http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace "One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other than human." (Loren Eisely)
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April 10th 04, 02:53 AM
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I had to get Omar to the vet last night as he was having trouble
breathing. Xrays showed fluid around his lungs and they took 170 mls out. The fluid fits the visual description of chlye to a T and will be analyzed but won't go to the lab until later today. :-( Remember that Paul who used to be a regular poster here a few years back? I think it was Paul Cook or something and he had a cat named Zipper that he was very devoted to? It seems like Zipper had chylothorax and he survived. I believe he ultimately died of cancer a year or 2 later but whatever the treatment was for his chylothorax, I think it worked. I don't know if you can Google that info and find the old posts. Candace (take the litter out before replying by e-mail) See my cats: http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace "One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other than human." (Loren Eisely)
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April 16th 04, 02:40 AM
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First, thanks to all for the replies. I'm sorry for not having responded
earlier but I am seriously STRESSED OUT due to not only the situation with Omar but also many other things I'm having to deal with as well. Sometimes I just need to shut down for awhile. Before I give details, as a reminder Omar actually was the recipient (along with Murphy) of some help from several on this newsgroup who were kind enough to buy cat beds from me to help with the vet bills I incurred doing this particlar rescue. The urls to the pics in the original post have been changed, but the pics are available in the "friends and rescues" section of my photo album, and there's a couple of cute pics of Omar in the Zuzuscats section too. The original thread is he http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...1f9ccce&rnum=1 After the rescue Omar was in a foster home for awhile and the woman that had him loved him and wanted to adopt him. Unfortunately one of her cats hated him and they could not be together AT ALL, so a new home had to be found for him. She had decided without my consent that it would be ok to adopt him to a woman she knew that had a young child. Not only did Omar have biting issues at the time and should not have been around children until that was resolved, but it turned out that the lady couldn't even afford good food or vet care. The fosterer had the idea that she would just contribute regularly, but that can't realisitically go on forever and then what would happen to him when the help stopped??? As any of you that even know me a little know, this was absolutely not an option and she and I got into a pretty heated argument, which ended with me going over there (I had a key) and literally packing him up and taking him out of her home right then and there before she had a chance to follow through and bring him to this woman's home. I decided that he had had enough with being confined (because of the other cat) and having an uncertain future and at that moment he was mine forever. I knew it was the right decision at the time and especially now considering the serious medical issues that have now surfaced. Omar's fluid analysis came back definitively as being caused by Chylothorax. I had an appointment for an ultrasound today and he has now been diagnosed with Dilated Cardiomyopathy. The specialist that did the ultrasound is a wonderful man who I have dealt with several times in the past and he is raring to go to get this under control and give Omar a good quality of life for however long that might be. I'm ecstatic about this and as messed up as it is that Omar has DCM, out of all the possibilities that were given this is the lesser of the evils so I'm oddly happy. He's been put on 4 medications and supplemental Taurine so we'll see what happens. I may have to bring him in again to pull fluid out of his lung area until we get this under control, but what I really hope is that he doesn't throw a clot. I'm going to stay with the specialist for all of Omar's treatment and bypass my regular clinic if at all possible. Why, you may ask? begin rant One of my big issues right now (and this is a heads up to you all) is that the vet clinic I have been a client of for 14 years was recently bought out by VCA which is, in my view, basically a big corporation that runs around the country buying up already established practices and destroying any semblence of compassion and consideration for the animals and instead focusing on how much cash they can make in the shortest amount of time. One example of this was when I brought Omar in for a Thoracentesis. I had this done before with another cat that required it several time. At that time the cost averaged about $40 and I was fit in to the schedule when it was convenient and never charged an office visit. This time, thanks to VCA, I am being charged $115 plus an exam fee *every time* which has already been twice in 9 days. It doesn't matter that between my rescue and pet accounts I have spent well over $80,000 or that I have brought them literally tens of thousands of dollars worth of new business because of my recommendations. Nope, now the only thing they see is $ and the welfare of my cat is only important if I can pay the exhorbitant fees. A dark cloud is now hanging over the clinic and, even though I like one vet there, her hands are tied now and she has to tow the company line. It's sickening and I have already heard from some of the staff that they hate it and want to leave, and that clients are walking away and doing things such as not following up for needed booster shots because of the dramatically increased expense. When I first heard this was happening I did a google search to see what VCA is all about and I found mostly negative comments. Having now experienced them for myself I can see why. I am certain that animals are going to die unnecessarily because of these *******s and their policies and it makes me ill. This is also going to limit my ability to help or rescue any cats that might cross my path and that has me particularly incensed. IMO VCA is like a malignant cancer and I urge anyone that is considering using a VCA clinic to think twice. I'm really ****ed because now is *not* the time that I need to start finding a new vet, but I don't see as I have a choice. Plus I don't want to give those ****ers another dime of my hard earned money if I can avoid it. /rant Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray
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April 16th 04, 02:40 AM
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First, thanks to all for the replies. I'm sorry for not having responded
earlier but I am seriously STRESSED OUT due to not only the situation with Omar but also many other things I'm having to deal with as well. Sometimes I just need to shut down for awhile. Before I give details, as a reminder Omar actually was the recipient (along with Murphy) of some help from several on this newsgroup who were kind enough to buy cat beds from me to help with the vet bills I incurred doing this particlar rescue. The urls to the pics in the original post have been changed, but the pics are available in the "friends and rescues" section of my photo album, and there's a couple of cute pics of Omar in the Zuzuscats section too. The original thread is he http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...1f9ccce&rnum=1 After the rescue Omar was in a foster home for awhile and the woman that had him loved him and wanted to adopt him. Unfortunately one of her cats hated him and they could not be together AT ALL, so a new home had to be found for him. She had decided without my consent that it would be ok to adopt him to a woman she knew that had a young child. Not only did Omar have biting issues at the time and should not have been around children until that was resolved, but it turned out that the lady couldn't even afford good food or vet care. The fosterer had the idea that she would just contribute regularly, but that can't realisitically go on forever and then what would happen to him when the help stopped??? As any of you that even know me a little know, this was absolutely not an option and she and I got into a pretty heated argument, which ended with me going over there (I had a key) and literally packing him up and taking him out of her home right then and there before she had a chance to follow through and bring him to this woman's home. I decided that he had had enough with being confined (because of the other cat) and having an uncertain future and at that moment he was mine forever. I knew it was the right decision at the time and especially now considering the serious medical issues that have now surfaced. Omar's fluid analysis came back definitively as being caused by Chylothorax. I had an appointment for an ultrasound today and he has now been diagnosed with Dilated Cardiomyopathy. The specialist that did the ultrasound is a wonderful man who I have dealt with several times in the past and he is raring to go to get this under control and give Omar a good quality of life for however long that might be. I'm ecstatic about this and as messed up as it is that Omar has DCM, out of all the possibilities that were given this is the lesser of the evils so I'm oddly happy. He's been put on 4 medications and supplemental Taurine so we'll see what happens. I may have to bring him in again to pull fluid out of his lung area until we get this under control, but what I really hope is that he doesn't throw a clot. I'm going to stay with the specialist for all of Omar's treatment and bypass my regular clinic if at all possible. Why, you may ask? begin rant One of my big issues right now (and this is a heads up to you all) is that the vet clinic I have been a client of for 14 years was recently bought out by VCA which is, in my view, basically a big corporation that runs around the country buying up already established practices and destroying any semblence of compassion and consideration for the animals and instead focusing on how much cash they can make in the shortest amount of time. One example of this was when I brought Omar in for a Thoracentesis. I had this done before with another cat that required it several time. At that time the cost averaged about $40 and I was fit in to the schedule when it was convenient and never charged an office visit. This time, thanks to VCA, I am being charged $115 plus an exam fee *every time* which has already been twice in 9 days. It doesn't matter that between my rescue and pet accounts I have spent well over $80,000 or that I have brought them literally tens of thousands of dollars worth of new business because of my recommendations. Nope, now the only thing they see is $ and the welfare of my cat is only important if I can pay the exhorbitant fees. A dark cloud is now hanging over the clinic and, even though I like one vet there, her hands are tied now and she has to tow the company line. It's sickening and I have already heard from some of the staff that they hate it and want to leave, and that clients are walking away and doing things such as not following up for needed booster shots because of the dramatically increased expense. When I first heard this was happening I did a google search to see what VCA is all about and I found mostly negative comments. Having now experienced them for myself I can see why. I am certain that animals are going to die unnecessarily because of these *******s and their policies and it makes me ill. This is also going to limit my ability to help or rescue any cats that might cross my path and that has me particularly incensed. IMO VCA is like a malignant cancer and I urge anyone that is considering using a VCA clinic to think twice. I'm really ****ed because now is *not* the time that I need to start finding a new vet, but I don't see as I have a choice. Plus I don't want to give those ****ers another dime of my hard earned money if I can avoid it. /rant Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray
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April 16th 04, 03:22 AM
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April 16th 04, 03:22 AM
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April 16th 04, 03:45 AM
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When I first heard this was happening I did a google search to see what
VCA is all about and I found mostly negative comments VCA is bad. They buy out small veterinary practices and turn them into big businesses only concerned about charging the maximum. My cat was killed because of them. I sued and won and donated the money to a cat charity. They slowly torturned my cat to death through neglect. One doctor thought another doctor was taking care of one small clinic so no one took care of the animals and all the animals in ICU died, including my cat "Lucky." I was out of town, called every day, they had all my numbers, they said he was fine. He wasn't even at the facility I had called anymore! After they killed him they had the nerve to send me an illegal bill. They can't charge more than the estimate. The estimate was $300, they sent a bill for either $1,200 or $2,200. Well, enough of my own rant.
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