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lump on back.. how to determine fibrosarcoma?
....besides a biopsy, that is.
(I'm currently unemployed, and we can't afford an exam right now for Tiger, let alone any surgery or testing.) So while I'm worrying, I wonder whether there's some other way to get a feel for what the lump could be. It's about nickel-sized though oblong, above the muscle but below the skin. It's located next to the spine but not on it, about an inch anterior to the pelvis. It's "pulpy-feeling", can be moved around, and doesn't appear to cause any discomfort. What else might it be? Abscess maybe? We lost a cat to fibrosarcoma several years back, and from the first time we located Roy's mass it was very solid-feeling, pretty different than Tiger's. I've been reading that Vaccination-related FS most often appears within a few months of vaccination, and it's been a few years for Tiger. Thanks for any ideas (and well-wishes). Tiger's around 14 but still very active and otherwise a picture of health. BLink -------------------------- "The worst thing about censorship is [redacted]" |
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lump on back.. how to determine fibrosarcoma?
"Brian Link" wrote in message ... ...besides a biopsy, that is. (I'm currently unemployed, and we can't afford an exam right now for Tiger, let alone any surgery or testing.) Take him to a shelter. Anywhere would be better than with you, since you know that you will not get him treatment, or even tests. [There is always a way. Sell something on ebay, take ANY job. What would you do if this were your child? Back into my bozo bin with you. Ass. |
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lump on back.. how to determine fibrosarcoma?
"cybercat" wrote in message ... "Brian Link" wrote in message ... ...besides a biopsy, that is. And another thing--what a stupid ****ing question. How would you suggest finding out? A ouija board, maybe? |
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lump on back.. how to determine fibrosarcoma?
"Brian Link" wrote in message ... ...besides a biopsy, that is. (I'm currently unemployed, and we can't afford an exam right now for Tiger, let alone any surgery or testing.) So while I'm worrying, I wonder whether there's some other way to get a feel for what the lump could be. It's about nickel-sized though oblong, above the muscle but below the skin. It's located next to the spine but not on it, about an inch anterior to the pelvis. It's "pulpy-feeling", can be moved around, and doesn't appear to cause any discomfort. What else might it be? Abscess maybe? We lost a cat to fibrosarcoma several years back, and from the first time we located Roy's mass it was very solid-feeling, pretty different than Tiger's. I've been reading that Vaccination-related FS most often appears within a few months of vaccination, and it's been a few years for Tiger. Thanks for any ideas (and well-wishes). Tiger's around 14 but still very active and otherwise a picture of health. BLink -------------------------- Brian, This is an impossible question to direct to a newsgroup. There is simply no way to diagnose a cat this way. Even a vet could not do that. Tiger really needs to be examined by a vet, and it needs to be done ASAP. If you are lucky, it will be a cyst that is no problem. If not, you may catch something in the early stages when treatment is both more effective and less costly. Somehow or other, you need to find a way to get proper treatment for a cat that has given you 14 years and hopefully will have many more. Many vets will let us pay on an extended payment plan, especially if you have established a long-term relationship. There are also some low-interest credit cards available. But *please* recognize that evaluation by a competent vet is not only "desirable"; it is essential. MaryL |
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lump on back.. how to determine fibrosarcoma?
On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:43:55 -0400, "cybercat"
wrote: "Brian Link" wrote in message .. . ...besides a biopsy, that is. (I'm currently unemployed, and we can't afford an exam right now for Tiger, let alone any surgery or testing.) Take him to a shelter. Anywhere would be better than with you, since you know that you will not get him treatment, or even tests. [There is always a way. Sell something on ebay, take ANY job. What would you do if this were your child? Back into my bozo bin with you. Ass. Oh, PLEASE, put me back into your bozo bin! PLEASE! I'd love to post something someday and actually find a useful response instead of your obviously whiskey-fuelled trolls. I would do something if this was my child. It is not, and there is no medicaid or Cobra insurance that covers housepets. God you're an idiot. Put him in a shelter? Think they'll give him chemo? Or even diagnose anything? That's preferable to me trying to find out some other alternative or waiting till I can afford treatment? You don't really give a **** about cats you heartless bitch. You don't give a **** about people either. You won't put me in your "bozo bin". I wouldn't be so lucky. I'll put you in mine though - it's called "plonk". In the meantime, please die in a fire. BLink "God created all tribes of men, and certainly had a righteous purpose in creating each" - Geronimo |
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lump on back.. how to determine fibrosarcoma?
On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:14:02 -0500, "MaryL"
-OUT-THE-LITTER wrote: "Brian Link" wrote in message .. . ...besides a biopsy, that is. (I'm currently unemployed, and we can't afford an exam right now for Tiger, let alone any surgery or testing.) So while I'm worrying, I wonder whether there's some other way to get a feel for what the lump could be. It's about nickel-sized though oblong, above the muscle but below the skin. It's located next to the spine but not on it, about an inch anterior to the pelvis. It's "pulpy-feeling", can be moved around, and doesn't appear to cause any discomfort. What else might it be? Abscess maybe? We lost a cat to fibrosarcoma several years back, and from the first time we located Roy's mass it was very solid-feeling, pretty different than Tiger's. I've been reading that Vaccination-related FS most often appears within a few months of vaccination, and it's been a few years for Tiger. Thanks for any ideas (and well-wishes). Tiger's around 14 but still very active and otherwise a picture of health. BLink -------------------------- Brian, This is an impossible question to direct to a newsgroup. There is simply no way to diagnose a cat this way. Even a vet could not do that. Tiger really needs to be examined by a vet, and it needs to be done ASAP. If you are lucky, it will be a cyst that is no problem. If not, you may catch something in the early stages when treatment is both more effective and less costly. Somehow or other, you need to find a way to get proper treatment for a cat that has given you 14 years and hopefully will have many more. Many vets will let us pay on an extended payment plan, especially if you have established a long-term relationship. There are also some low-interest credit cards available. But *please* recognize that evaluation by a competent vet is not only "desirable"; it is essential. MaryL Thanks Mary. That's the kind of feedback I was looking for. I guess I'll start hitting up family members for some cash - the visit is only "just" beyond our reach - I need to find out how much they charge for the syringe biopsy. Even then though - we had major surgery for Roy, and the sarcoma came back. After $1000 and a month of rehabilitation, he got only an additional year before we had to have him put down. Damn. They're so strong and smart, and really delicate at the same time. BLink "God created all tribes of men, and certainly had a righteous purpose in creating each" - Geronimo |
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lump on back.. how to determine fibrosarcoma?
"Brian Link" wrote in message ... On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:14:02 -0500, "MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote: "Brian Link" wrote in message . .. ...besides a biopsy, that is. (I'm currently unemployed, and we can't afford an exam right now for Tiger, let alone any surgery or testing.) So while I'm worrying, I wonder whether there's some other way to get a feel for what the lump could be. It's about nickel-sized though oblong, above the muscle but below the skin. It's located next to the spine but not on it, about an inch anterior to the pelvis. It's "pulpy-feeling", can be moved around, and doesn't appear to cause any discomfort. What else might it be? Abscess maybe? We lost a cat to fibrosarcoma several years back, and from the first time we located Roy's mass it was very solid-feeling, pretty different than Tiger's. I've been reading that Vaccination-related FS most often appears within a few months of vaccination, and it's been a few years for Tiger. Thanks for any ideas (and well-wishes). Tiger's around 14 but still very active and otherwise a picture of health. BLink -------------------------- Brian, This is an impossible question to direct to a newsgroup. There is simply no way to diagnose a cat this way. Even a vet could not do that. Tiger really needs to be examined by a vet, and it needs to be done ASAP. If you are lucky, it will be a cyst that is no problem. If not, you may catch something in the early stages when treatment is both more effective and less costly. Somehow or other, you need to find a way to get proper treatment for a cat that has given you 14 years and hopefully will have many more. Many vets will let us pay on an extended payment plan, especially if you have established a long-term relationship. There are also some low-interest credit cards available. But *please* recognize that evaluation by a competent vet is not only "desirable"; it is essential. MaryL Thanks Mary. That's the kind of feedback I was looking for. I guess I'll start hitting up family members for some cash - the visit is only "just" beyond our reach - I need to find out how much they charge for the syringe biopsy. Even then though - we had major surgery for Roy, and the sarcoma came back. After $1000 and a month of rehabilitation, he got only an additional year before we had to have him put down. Damn. They're so strong and smart, and really delicate at the same time. BLink "God created all tribes of men, and certainly had a righteous purpose in creating each" - Geronimo Thanks, Brian. Please keep us updated with results. We will all hope that this is something benign and inconsequential. I had a cat that developed a *huge* cyst when he was about 16 or 17 years old. Fortunately, all we had to do was have it drained and there were no further problems. I hope Tiger's will be something like that. (The cyst, as I remember it, was large and black. It was on the side of his face and protruded upward. It was also soft, movable, and did not seem to cause discomfort. However, it *was* important to have it drained. The vet had me watch it for awhile but then drained it because it was growing so large that it could have split and caused infection. This was a great many years ago -- and my very first cat -- so I no longer remember some of the details.) MaryL |
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lump on back.. how to determine fibrosarcoma?
"MaryL" wrote
It's about nickel-sized though oblong, above the muscle but below the skin. It's located next to the spine but not on it, about an inch anterior to the pelvis. It's "pulpy-feeling", can be moved around, and doesn't appear to cause any discomfort. What else might it be? Abscess maybe? Looking back now, have deleted several messages without really reading them. Mea culpa. Obviuously a vet visit is 'best' but here's what I have experienced. Pulpy but not firm. More apt to be an abcess it seems and it will get firm if not treated. Not expensive in the long run. Pretty much they lanced it then there was an antibiotic that had to be given for I think 10 days with a syringe. Have to see the vet to treat it. In a house with multiple cats (some or all still naturally clawed atleast at the back feet) this can happen from a puncture wound which leaves no outside side any of us would see after a day or so. Can take a few weeks to build up. Basically they make an puncture would then it seals up and leaves infection behind 'under the skin' which slowly grows. Same can happen to us humans. Not to be ignored, but not a cancer. Should not wait to treat. Potential blood poisioning from infection. I've had a few occurances of this over the years with cats as i do not agree with declawing and the only cats in my home who have been declawed, came to me that way. One scrap of advice from a vet many years ago. Not sure if related but not 'horrible' to pass on. If you have normal cats with normal claws, change the cat litter OFTEN so they scritch about in a fairly clean environment and carry less 'ick' that that can cause this on their claws. I do not know if this is true, but it seemed very sensible to me in a multi-cat home and have always followed it. I've rarely had problems since. Hopefully this helps. It was meant to at least! |
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lump on back.. how to determine fibrosarcoma?
"cshenk" wrote in message ... "MaryL" wrote It's about nickel-sized though oblong, above the muscle but below the skin. It's located next to the spine but not on it, about an inch anterior to the pelvis. It's "pulpy-feeling", can be moved around, and doesn't appear to cause any discomfort. What else might it be? Abscess maybe? Looking back now, have deleted several messages without really reading them. Mea culpa. Obviuously a vet visit is 'best' but here's what I have experienced. Pulpy but not firm. More apt to be an abcess it seems and it will get firm if not treated. Not expensive in the long run. Pretty much they lanced it then there was an antibiotic that had to be given for I think 10 days with a syringe. Have to see the vet to treat it. In a house with multiple cats (some or all still naturally clawed atleast at the back feet) this can happen from a puncture wound which leaves no outside side any of us would see after a day or so. Can take a few weeks to build up. Basically they make an puncture would then it seals up and leaves infection behind 'under the skin' which slowly grows. Same can happen to us humans. Not to be ignored, but not a cancer. Should not wait to treat. Potential blood poisioning from infection. I've had a few occurances of this over the years with cats as i do not agree with declawing and the only cats in my home who have been declawed, came to me that way. One scrap of advice from a vet many years ago. Not sure if related but not 'horrible' to pass on. If you have normal cats with normal claws, change the cat litter OFTEN so they scritch about in a fairly clean environment and carry less 'ick' that that can cause this on their claws. I do not know if this is true, but it seemed very sensible to me in a multi-cat home and have always followed it. I've rarely had problems since. Hopefully this helps. It was meant to at least! The original message came from Brian, not from me. That looks like good information, though. MaryL |
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lump on back.. how to determine fibrosarcoma?
On Jul 30, 4:43*pm, Brian Link wrote:
...besides a biopsy, that is. (I'm currently unemployed, and we can't afford an exam right now for Tiger, let alone any surgery or testing.) So while I'm worrying, I wonder whether there's some other way to get a feel for what the lump could be. It's about nickel-sized though oblong, above the muscle but below the skin. It's located next to the spine but not on it, about an inch anterior to the pelvis. It's "pulpy-feeling", can be moved around, and doesn't appear to cause any discomfort. What else might it be? Abscess maybe? We lost a cat to fibrosarcoma several years back, and from the first time we located Roy's mass it was very solid-feeling, pretty different than Tiger's. I've been reading that Vaccination-related FS most often appears within a few months of vaccination, and it's been a few years for Tiger. Thanks for any ideas (and well-wishes). Tiger's around 14 but still very active and otherwise a picture of health. BLink -------------------------- "The worst thing about censorship is [redacted]" Vax-related sarcomas can appear as long as three years after the last vaccination. It's very aggressive. The tumor will begin growing "fingers" down the back of the cat, and that makes it impossible to remove if you wait too long. There's a much better chance of removal if you don't delay. I am *not* an expert on the subject, but I do know a little about it because my daughter's cat has one. You really have no choice, IMO, but to see a vet. It doesn't sound like an abscess to me. IME, abscesses *hurt* -- my cats never let me touch one. Sherry |
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