Man traps neighbors cats, takes to shelter

"Brandy Alexandre" wrote in message
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Jon C wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

Well, I think that any cat owner who both 1) doesn't check the
local shelter when their cat goes missing for several days and 2)
allows cats to be outdoors without any sort of ID shouldn't be
surprised when the cat gets euthanized. The guy did the right
thing, and he didn't kill any cats.


I agree--the owner killed the cat.


I think you are both missing the point. An animal was killed for
no other reason that it did a normal animal thing. The owner
was irresponsible, the man was callous and society shrugs.
It was an animal. Living, breathing, it had value
(and I don't mean money). It's dead now. I know..who
cares. Lets argue about who's right and who's to blame.
I am sorry for the cat..but sorrier still to see this is the state of
humanity. When we kill an animal (or give it to someone else
to kill) for walking on our dirt and then argue about rights.
You know the saying, if you are not part of the solution, you
are part of the problem? Well in my opinion the trapper was
as responsible as the owner. He disposed of the cat without
any concern for it's well being. but hey..at least his garden
will look good this year. Actually it probably won't. Karma's
a bitch.

AG

"Brandy Alexandre" wrote in message
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Jon C wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

Well, I think that any cat owner who both 1) doesn't check the
local shelter when their cat goes missing for several days and 2)
allows cats to be outdoors without any sort of ID shouldn't be
surprised when the cat gets euthanized. The guy did the right
thing, and he didn't kill any cats.


I agree--the owner killed the cat.


I think you are both missing the point. An animal was killed for
no other reason that it did a normal animal thing. The owner
was irresponsible, the man was callous and society shrugs.
It was an animal. Living, breathing, it had value
(and I don't mean money). It's dead now. I know..who
cares. Lets argue about who's right and who's to blame.
I am sorry for the cat..but sorrier still to see this is the state of
humanity. When we kill an animal (or give it to someone else
to kill) for walking on our dirt and then argue about rights.
You know the saying, if you are not part of the solution, you
are part of the problem? Well in my opinion the trapper was
as responsible as the owner. He disposed of the cat without
any concern for it's well being. but hey..at least his garden
will look good this year. Actually it probably won't. Karma's
a bitch.

AG

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:13:03 GMT, "Jon C" wrote:

Um, he didn't kill the cats.

Read the article next time before posting a long message blasting something
that wasn't even said.

The guy turned the cats over to the shelter.

Then the shelter killed the cat. Either way it was killed !!!

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:13:03 GMT, "Jon C" wrote:

Um, he didn't kill the cats.

Read the article next time before posting a long message blasting something
that wasn't even said.

The guy turned the cats over to the shelter.

Then the shelter killed the cat. Either way it was killed !!!

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:13:03 GMT, "Jon C" wrote:

Um, he didn't kill the cats.

Read the article next time before posting a long message blasting something
that wasn't even said.

The guy turned the cats over to the shelter.

Then the shelter killed the cat. Either way it was killed !!!

"Bill S" wrote in message
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snip
I personally hate working in my flower bed and digging up a big cat
turd. One of my flower beds I don't even work in any more because it
smells like a litter box (It's not one my cats can get to, and yes
I've tried every product known to man to keep them out). This is
obviously a bad situation with no easy answers, in my opinion.


Bill



Have you tried moth balls in the garden? It worked for me with the next door
neighbor's cat who thought my flower beds were her litter box. You may have
to retrieve them from the yard and put them back in the garden a few times
if you have squirrels. They seem to like to scatter them around. The moth
balls must have interfered with the squirrels digging up my bulbs.
Unfortunately since I started keeping my cats indoors a number of years ago
the squirrels and rabbits have a field day.

Wendy

"Bill S" wrote in message
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snip
I personally hate working in my flower bed and digging up a big cat
turd. One of my flower beds I don't even work in any more because it
smells like a litter box (It's not one my cats can get to, and yes
I've tried every product known to man to keep them out). This is
obviously a bad situation with no easy answers, in my opinion.


Bill



Have you tried moth balls in the garden? It worked for me with the next door
neighbor's cat who thought my flower beds were her litter box. You may have
to retrieve them from the yard and put them back in the garden a few times
if you have squirrels. They seem to like to scatter them around. The moth
balls must have interfered with the squirrels digging up my bulbs.
Unfortunately since I started keeping my cats indoors a number of years ago
the squirrels and rabbits have a field day.

Wendy

"Bill S" wrote in message
...


snip
I personally hate working in my flower bed and digging up a big cat
turd. One of my flower beds I don't even work in any more because it
smells like a litter box (It's not one my cats can get to, and yes
I've tried every product known to man to keep them out). This is
obviously a bad situation with no easy answers, in my opinion.


Bill



Have you tried moth balls in the garden? It worked for me with the next door
neighbor's cat who thought my flower beds were her litter box. You may have
to retrieve them from the yard and put them back in the garden a few times
if you have squirrels. They seem to like to scatter them around. The moth
balls must have interfered with the squirrels digging up my bulbs.
Unfortunately since I started keeping my cats indoors a number of years ago
the squirrels and rabbits have a field day.

Wendy

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:07:49 GMT, "Agua Girl"
wrote:

First off..this has been discussed ad nauseum in here, and is
usually brought up by trolls; but I will take your post on face
value and assume you have no ulterior motive for rehashing the
debate.
I have a couple of comments. Number one, there are all kinds of
wild animals that leave droppings. ...

A Portland man, upset at his neighbor's cats continually coming over
and killing birds and crapping in his flower beds decided to take
matters into his own hands. He started trapping the cats and taking
them down and dropping them off at the animal shelter. Most neighbors
eventually thought to check the shelter when their cats disappeared,
but one cat had no ID and was euthanized within a few days. ...


There are a few things missing here that are pertinent. First, how
many cats and neighbors are we talking about? The quoted article
indicates that the missing cats belonged to "most neighbors", so can I
assume that at least three neighbors were missing cats? How many cats
were involved? Belonging to how many neighbors? Was there a cat
convention in this guy's yard?

And it isn't cat poop that most people find a problem, although it can
be. Cat fights outside disturb me and my cats. Some local cats poop
down a short flight of stairs leading to my basement door. There is no
dirt there so they just leave it. (not any more since I put up a fence
to keep mine in and theirs out).

The real problem is urine. Remember, our feline friends like to mark
their territory. It stinks. Much more of a problem than the poop. And
Agua Girl, we can tell the difference between a cat killing a bird and
a bird dying of West Nile. The severed head is the giveaway. That is
normal cat behavior but I like birds also.

If there are so many cats that this guy can't use his yard because it
stinks and is full of crap, then a problem exists. Maybe he is nuts,
or maybe he just wants his neighbors to be responsible for their pets.

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:07:49 GMT, "Agua Girl"
wrote:

First off..this has been discussed ad nauseum in here, and is
usually brought up by trolls; but I will take your post on face
value and assume you have no ulterior motive for rehashing the
debate.
I have a couple of comments. Number one, there are all kinds of
wild animals that leave droppings. ...

A Portland man, upset at his neighbor's cats continually coming over
and killing birds and crapping in his flower beds decided to take
matters into his own hands. He started trapping the cats and taking
them down and dropping them off at the animal shelter. Most neighbors
eventually thought to check the shelter when their cats disappeared,
but one cat had no ID and was euthanized within a few days. ...


There are a few things missing here that are pertinent. First, how
many cats and neighbors are we talking about? The quoted article
indicates that the missing cats belonged to "most neighbors", so can I
assume that at least three neighbors were missing cats? How many cats
were involved? Belonging to how many neighbors? Was there a cat
convention in this guy's yard?

And it isn't cat poop that most people find a problem, although it can
be. Cat fights outside disturb me and my cats. Some local cats poop
down a short flight of stairs leading to my basement door. There is no
dirt there so they just leave it. (not any more since I put up a fence
to keep mine in and theirs out).

The real problem is urine. Remember, our feline friends like to mark
their territory. It stinks. Much more of a problem than the poop. And
Agua Girl, we can tell the difference between a cat killing a bird and
a bird dying of West Nile. The severed head is the giveaway. That is
normal cat behavior but I like birds also.

If there are so many cats that this guy can't use his yard because it
stinks and is full of crap, then a problem exists. Maybe he is nuts,
or maybe he just wants his neighbors to be responsible for their pets.