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I agree on no declawing but no spaying or neutering? That is being
irresponsible if you ask me. Try using your religious lines in a shelter that is overflowing with animals because either someone failed to spay and neuter their animal or simply dumped them there. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "ys" wrote in message hlink.net... No declawing, no neutering, no spaying - all totally against the Creator's wishes. What is expected from us as the stewards of this planet is be humane, compassionate and caring enough to feed an animal entrusted to us before we eat. |
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I agree on no declawing but no spaying or neutering? That is being
irresponsible if you ask me. Try using your religious lines in a shelter that is overflowing with animals because either someone failed to spay and neuter their animal or simply dumped them there. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "ys" wrote in message hlink.net... No declawing, no neutering, no spaying - all totally against the Creator's wishes. What is expected from us as the stewards of this planet is be humane, compassionate and caring enough to feed an animal entrusted to us before we eat. |
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No but it might get you into one of the xtian death cult clubs, counting as
extra *brownie points*. Fool. YS "Bob Chandler" wrote in message m... (Scott Dorsey) wrote in message ... Logan Shaw wrote: kilikini wrote: "Sheena Weston" wrote in message ... Why is it that cats generally make better pets for women, where dogs usually make better pets for men? I don't know, I have both; two domestic shorthaired cats and a very active Australian Shepherd. What does that say about me? You're obviously bisexual. Next question? What about people with birds? --scott I used to have a pet alligator (well, actually a caiman) who ATE a cat--Does that count? bob --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.600 / Virus Database: 381 - Release Date: 2/28/04 |
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No but it might get you into one of the xtian death cult clubs, counting as
extra *brownie points*. Fool. YS "Bob Chandler" wrote in message m... (Scott Dorsey) wrote in message ... Logan Shaw wrote: kilikini wrote: "Sheena Weston" wrote in message ... Why is it that cats generally make better pets for women, where dogs usually make better pets for men? I don't know, I have both; two domestic shorthaired cats and a very active Australian Shepherd. What does that say about me? You're obviously bisexual. Next question? What about people with birds? --scott I used to have a pet alligator (well, actually a caiman) who ATE a cat--Does that count? bob --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.600 / Virus Database: 381 - Release Date: 2/28/04 |
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Sorry. Our Torah says NO to mutilations. Specifically castration.
If every human being stepped up to the plate and took responsibility as a humane human, doing our part in caring for these animals - fully, lovingly, with dedication - keeping them within bounds, within the framework of Torah - the Blueprint for the Universe, there would be ZERO need to use violence to control and manipulate nature and its laws. It is PRECISELY when these laws are violated that all hell breaks loose with plagues, pestilence and catastrophe. We must begin to do things the Right way, following the laws of the Creator in all facets if life. YS "Cat Protector" wrote in message news:vU14c.1371$wg.1088@okepread01... I agree on no declawing but no spaying or neutering? That is being irresponsible if you ask me. Try using your religious lines in a shelter that is overflowing with animals because either someone failed to spay and neuter their animal or simply dumped them there. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "ys" wrote in message hlink.net... No declawing, no neutering, no spaying - all totally against the Creator's wishes. What is expected from us as the stewards of this planet is be humane, compassionate and caring enough to feed an animal entrusted to us before we eat. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.600 / Virus Database: 381 - Release Date: 2/28/04 |
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Sorry. Our Torah says NO to mutilations. Specifically castration.
If every human being stepped up to the plate and took responsibility as a humane human, doing our part in caring for these animals - fully, lovingly, with dedication - keeping them within bounds, within the framework of Torah - the Blueprint for the Universe, there would be ZERO need to use violence to control and manipulate nature and its laws. It is PRECISELY when these laws are violated that all hell breaks loose with plagues, pestilence and catastrophe. We must begin to do things the Right way, following the laws of the Creator in all facets if life. YS "Cat Protector" wrote in message news:vU14c.1371$wg.1088@okepread01... I agree on no declawing but no spaying or neutering? That is being irresponsible if you ask me. Try using your religious lines in a shelter that is overflowing with animals because either someone failed to spay and neuter their animal or simply dumped them there. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "ys" wrote in message hlink.net... No declawing, no neutering, no spaying - all totally against the Creator's wishes. What is expected from us as the stewards of this planet is be humane, compassionate and caring enough to feed an animal entrusted to us before we eat. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.600 / Virus Database: 381 - Release Date: 2/28/04 |
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Wait a minute, the Torah says that you can't spay or neuter your pets? Is
this true? Also, in what way is spaying or neutering violent? If a human female has a hysterectomy, is that against the Torah or violent? I'm not flaming you or anything, I'm just curious about your views. Another point I want to make is that not every human being *will* step up to the plate. Take my roommate for example. He has a dog and has never taken her to the vet for any shots, heartworm prevention or flea or tick prevention. The man has 4 children that he never sees. He's a waste of a human being. I'm all for working on society, but there are just too many lazy, irresponsible people out in the world to make exceptions. So, most of us have to take it upon ourselves to neuter or spay our pets. I neutered my male dog because my roommate refuses to spay his and we live in a small apartment. Something had to give. When *everyone* follows the *rules* - we'll talk. But that will probably be way after our current lifetime. kilikini "ys" wrote in message ink.net... Sorry. Our Torah says NO to mutilations. Specifically castration. If every human being stepped up to the plate and took responsibility as a humane human, doing our part in caring for these animals - fully, lovingly, with dedication - keeping them within bounds, within the framework of Torah - the Blueprint for the Universe, there would be ZERO need to use violence to control and manipulate nature and its laws. It is PRECISELY when these laws are violated that all hell breaks loose with plagues, pestilence and catastrophe. We must begin to do things the Right way, following the laws of the Creator in all facets if life. YS "Cat Protector" wrote in message news:vU14c.1371$wg.1088@okepread01... I agree on no declawing but no spaying or neutering? That is being irresponsible if you ask me. Try using your religious lines in a shelter that is overflowing with animals because either someone failed to spay and neuter their animal or simply dumped them there. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "ys" wrote in message hlink.net... No declawing, no neutering, no spaying - all totally against the Creator's wishes. What is expected from us as the stewards of this planet is be humane, compassionate and caring enough to feed an animal entrusted to us before we eat. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.600 / Virus Database: 381 - Release Date: 2/28/04 |
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Wait a minute, the Torah says that you can't spay or neuter your pets? Is
this true? Also, in what way is spaying or neutering violent? If a human female has a hysterectomy, is that against the Torah or violent? I'm not flaming you or anything, I'm just curious about your views. Another point I want to make is that not every human being *will* step up to the plate. Take my roommate for example. He has a dog and has never taken her to the vet for any shots, heartworm prevention or flea or tick prevention. The man has 4 children that he never sees. He's a waste of a human being. I'm all for working on society, but there are just too many lazy, irresponsible people out in the world to make exceptions. So, most of us have to take it upon ourselves to neuter or spay our pets. I neutered my male dog because my roommate refuses to spay his and we live in a small apartment. Something had to give. When *everyone* follows the *rules* - we'll talk. But that will probably be way after our current lifetime. kilikini "ys" wrote in message ink.net... Sorry. Our Torah says NO to mutilations. Specifically castration. If every human being stepped up to the plate and took responsibility as a humane human, doing our part in caring for these animals - fully, lovingly, with dedication - keeping them within bounds, within the framework of Torah - the Blueprint for the Universe, there would be ZERO need to use violence to control and manipulate nature and its laws. It is PRECISELY when these laws are violated that all hell breaks loose with plagues, pestilence and catastrophe. We must begin to do things the Right way, following the laws of the Creator in all facets if life. YS "Cat Protector" wrote in message news:vU14c.1371$wg.1088@okepread01... I agree on no declawing but no spaying or neutering? That is being irresponsible if you ask me. Try using your religious lines in a shelter that is overflowing with animals because either someone failed to spay and neuter their animal or simply dumped them there. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "ys" wrote in message hlink.net... No declawing, no neutering, no spaying - all totally against the Creator's wishes. What is expected from us as the stewards of this planet is be humane, compassionate and caring enough to feed an animal entrusted to us before we eat. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.600 / Virus Database: 381 - Release Date: 2/28/04 |
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"kilikini" wrote in message ... So, in other words, if you spay or neuter your pet the pet would be rejected by God and would not make it into heaven? Am I understanding the belief correctly? kilikini ---------- Not exactly. Without getting into detail, we have 613 commandments. The commandment regarding not spaying/neutering is just one of them. We are judged on the big picture, the good is weighed against the bad. We are not judged on just one thing. That having been said, religious Jews easily avoid transgressing this commandment by adopting animals that have already been spayed or neutered. That way, we are not adding to the animal overpopulation problem, we are not transgressing a commandment, and we are hopefully providing a nice home for an animal who needs one. Best regards, ---Cindy S. |
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"kilikini" wrote in message ... So, in other words, if you spay or neuter your pet the pet would be rejected by God and would not make it into heaven? Am I understanding the belief correctly? kilikini ---------- Not exactly. Without getting into detail, we have 613 commandments. The commandment regarding not spaying/neutering is just one of them. We are judged on the big picture, the good is weighed against the bad. We are not judged on just one thing. That having been said, religious Jews easily avoid transgressing this commandment by adopting animals that have already been spayed or neutered. That way, we are not adding to the animal overpopulation problem, we are not transgressing a commandment, and we are hopefully providing a nice home for an animal who needs one. Best regards, ---Cindy S. |
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