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I need your sagely advice and wisdom again, people. Declaw or not declaw, that is my question.
Response from Grace :
Do not declaw. As many have said already---it is mutilation, involving not just the nail but the toe as well. None of our vets around here will even do it anymore. In the event that kittie turns out to be a furniture or people scratcher, and it seems to be getting out of hand, have your vet apply a set of soft tips. Are those anything like these? http://www.softclaws.com/ Thanks, Grace. -- -Lost Remove the extra words to reply by e-mail. Don't e-mail me. I am kidding. No I am not. |
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I need your sagely advice and wisdom again, people. Declaw or not declaw, that is my question.
I can't believe someone who works at an animal hospital would
recommend declawing. It's illegal in this country, considered to be an act of animal cruelty, thank goodness. Marcia On 28 Sep, 06:10, "-Lost" wrote: After talking with my friend at the animal hospital for the thousandth time today, they started mentioning some other things that I should have done before officially calling Gabby "good to go." 1. Get her spayed - of course, this is already planned. 2. "ridder of critters" they said. Done. 3. Tons more general how to take care of a cat tips. Done. .. 19. Maybe not 19th, but the last thing they said was, "And make sure to get her declawed." Not so sure about... Forgive my ignorance on this one, and cat lovers please don't bounce something off of my head, but I thought as long as you were... 1. Not in fear of your life. 2. Your other animals got along fine with kitty. 3. Kitty uses her abundance of play things and scratching posts, walls, climbs, and other assorted cat approved claw-holders. 4. Kitty eventually stops chasing you down and attacking you from behind. ...that you did not have to get a cat declawed. My friend made it out like it is a must along with spaying an animal. What's the word cat people? -- -Lost Remove the extra words to reply by e-mail. Don't e-mail me. I am kidding. No I am not. |
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I need your sagely advice and wisdom again, people. Declaw or not declaw, that is my question.
I've never clipped my cat's claws either, I wouldn't dare for a
start! He uses the old sofa (and the new sofa when I'm out), the tree outside and anything else he fancies, he, after all, a cat.... I reckon if you can't handle everything in the house being systematically moulted on, hairballed up on, licked, scratched etc - don't live with a cat! Marcia On 28 Sep, 13:06, "-Lost" wrote: Response from Meghan Noecker : Your friend is an idiot. Declawing actually takes off the last section of the toe, is painful, and also removes their ability to do instinctual behaviors. All you need is a godo cat tree, some patience, and some clippers. Well, in their defense, I doubt they would recommend something that the doctor themselves did not recommend. I could be wrong though. And I am actually going to ask them today to be sure. If they are giving me misinformation or suggestions the doctor would not recommend then I will seriously reevaluate my sources. Now, for the rest of your response... um... you have to clip kitty claws? Where in the world am I getting MY information? I was told by many not to worry about cutting their nails. That in fact a good scratching area (which I have provided three of) was sufficient enough to help them shed their claws. Assuming this is incorrect, I will explain "shed their claws" to avoid further confusion. I was told that cats claws were similar to dogs in that they eventually flake or grow like exoskeletons, whereby the newer nail underneath pushes the older one off. Or in the case of a scratching post, helps remove it. Is that correct? Thanks for the feedback, Meghan. -- -Lost Remove the extra words to reply by e-mail. Don't e-mail me. I am kidding. No I am not. |
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I need your sagely advice and wisdom again, people. Declaw or not declaw, that is my question.
"-Lost" wrote in
: Do you have a recommendation for one? I was recently reading an article about using a dremel on doggy toe nails, but I imagine that Gabby's are too small to use a dremel on. We've used this kind for about 25 years. Maybe there are better ones out now, but this has always worked fine for us. I'm sure they're available anywhere pet supplies are sold. http://tinyurl.com/2493fw Bobble |
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I need your sagely advice and wisdom again, people. Declaw or not declaw, that is my question.
"-Lost" wrote in message
... Well as promised I called today and talked to my friend. The doctor does in fact recommend getting them declawed. Instead of piece it together for you, I am going to clean up and copy and paste what I was able to type out while we talked. "Hey, Friend. How are you?" Them: "Good -Lost, you?" "Ah, so-so. I had a few more questions for you if you do not mind." Them: "Shoot!" "I was reading up on some different methods to stop kitty from clawing everything in sight..." Them: "Right, I remember..." "Well, could you explain the entire declawing process and do you recommend it or does the animal hospital recommend it?" Them: "Well, first off... how old is kitty?" "About 3 months give or take a month." Them: "Well that is the best time to get kitty declawed. In fact, we have a spay and front claw declawing program with a sterile scalpel that runs $128. However, we HIGHLY recommend the laser which seals nerve endings and cauterizes blood vessels. There is no bleeding, it is less painful for kitty, they have a quicker recovery time and the risk of infection is drastically reduced. That runs about $205, but does not include pain management or vaccinations." "Wow. So, do you recommend I do it? And what does the doctor feel about it?" Them: "Well, actually the administrator of both sites recommends it as does the doctor. I recommend it too if kitty is being destructive and you simply cannot break her from being destructive. Have you tried shaking a piggy bank at her or squirting her with a spray bottle full of water?" "No. She is not destructive in my opinion." Them: "Oh. Well, why do you want to get her declawed then?" "I don't! I was asking if it was recommended." Them: "Oh, well, yeah, we recommend it. Also, the sooner the better. We have found that kitties respond much better when they have it done early on rather than later in life." "How so?" Them: "How so what?" "How do they become used to not having toes?" Them: "No silly, it does not cut their toes off, only the tips of them that contain the nail. A lot of people think it cruel in fact to do it, but then you have some people who have nice things or leather furniture and whatnot and they do not want their things ruined. So, what were your other questions?" "To be honest, I cannot remember what the others were." At this point I just wanted to get off the phone. Them: "Well if you are worried about kitty's health afterward we provide lint-free, dust-free, shredded newspaper-like litter for you, in fact we call it 'Yesterday's News', so she'll be covered there. Do you want to set up an appointment?" "I need to talk it over with my spouse first. I'll let you know." Them: "OK, -Lost. If you have any other questions feel free and give us a call." "All right. Bu-bye." Them: "Bye." Also, when I first asked actually, they said "Well, we DO offer the service." But it quickly went from me thinking, "Oh, maybe they do not recommend it actually." to "They recommend the hell out of it." They also mentioned that if she was to be an indoor kitty that I need not worry about things like her being able to defend herself. I am seriously disappointed in this animal hospital now. Oh it's very beneficial - *FOR THE VET'S POCKETBOOK!!!* When I was looking for a new vet, I would call and ask them if the did declawing. If they said yes they got scratched off my list and I called the next one. Any vet who can so seriously maim a healthy animal like this is, in my opinion, seriously unethical. Hugs, CatNipped -- -Lost Remove the extra words to reply by e-mail. Don't e-mail me. I am kidding. No I am not. |
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I need your sagely advice and wisdom again, people. Declaw or not declaw, that is my question.
"-Lost" wrote in message
... Response from "CatNipped" : Please read this before making a decision: http://www.maxshouse.com/facts_about_declawing.htm Darn you, CatNipped. I already felt like crying... Seriously though, thanks for that information. I have already now made the decision that my kitty keeps her claws, but now I have the reason why to show my family and my friend who have bad news about (I am going to post a reply to the main thread about what they said). Actually, you should thank Phil P. - it's his web site. He has the most comprehensive information about cats that I've ever seen in one place. Go to http://www.maxshouse.com/ for the main page and you'll get all the info you need to care for you cat. Hugs, CatNipped Thanks again, CatNipped. -- -Lost Remove the extra words to reply by e-mail. Don't e-mail me. I am kidding. No I am not. |
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I need your sagely advice and wisdom again, people. Declaw or not declaw, that is my question.
In article ,
"-Lost" wrote: After talking with my friend at the animal hospital for the thousandth time today, they started mentioning some other things that I should have done before officially calling Gabby "good to go." 1. Get her spayed - of course, this is already planned. 2. "ridder of critters" they said. Done. 3. Tons more general how to take care of a cat tips. Done. .. 19. Maybe not 19th, but the last thing they said was, "And make sure to get her declawed." Not so sure about... Forgive my ignorance on this one, and cat lovers please don't bounce something off of my head, but I thought as long as you were... 1. Not in fear of your life. 2. Your other animals got along fine with kitty. 3. Kitty uses her abundance of play things and scratching posts, walls, climbs, and other assorted cat approved claw-holders. 4. Kitty eventually stops chasing you down and attacking you from behind. ...that you did not have to get a cat declawed. My friend made it out like it is a must along with spaying an animal. What's the word cat people? NOT!!!!!!!! -- 8^)~ Sue (remove the x to email) ~~~~ I reserve the absolute right to be smarter today than I was yesterday. -Adlai Stevenson As seen on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/wacvet http://www.suzanne-eckhardt.com/ http://www.intergnat.com/malebashing/ http://www.intergnat.com/pussygames/ |
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I need your sagely advice and wisdom again, people. Declaw or...
Here is a picture of my collection of discarded claw sheaths.
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/View...e=0&re s=high ---MIKE--- In the White Mountains of New Hampshire (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580') |
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I need your sagely advice and wisdom again, people. Declaw or not declaw, that is my question.
"Mashauk" wrote in message ups.com... I've never clipped my cat's claws either, I wouldn't dare for a start! He uses the old sofa (and the new sofa when I'm out), the tree outside and anything else he fancies, he, after all, a cat.... I reckon if you can't handle everything in the house being systematically moulted on, hairballed up on, licked, scratched etc - don't live with a cat! That's not helpful, Marcia, for those who don't want to live in a nasty place and have all their things wrecked. It is easy to trim nails and get things that cats prefer to scratch. |
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