Dan finally admits that he lied!

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From: "Karen"

Well, take a look at his follow up post. He started getting threatening
letters and phone calls.

NO! He SAYS He started getting threatening letters and phone calls.
He also SAID he never picked up the cat from the shelter.
Now he's trying to BS his way out of the hole he dug himself into.
I haven't seen this much SPIN put on something since I watched
the Wimbledon finals last week.

I'd say he was absolutely right to just stop
communicating.

Does that really make sense to you?

Look, anything makes sense to me when dealing with the whacko Mary. Maybe
you haven't been reading her posts as long as I have but believe me, the
woman flips on a dime from friendly to screaming hellcat over, well,
pretty
much anything. I"ve seen it happen MULTIPLE times online. So, yeah, where
she is concerned, it *could* make absolute sense. If she doesn't like that
it's too bad because it is her own past behaviour that makes me so leery
of
everything she posts. On the other hand, for the same amount of time I've
been reading Dan and he's as stable as she is nuts. So from my OWN
experience with the two people over an extended period of time, on usenet
I'd take Dan's word over Mary's word anyday.



And yet you have no evidence at all that I have ever lied to anyone.
You are like a little child who knows she is busted, but just keeps on
acting like everything is fine, hoping nobody will notice. It's kind of
cute. Sad in a middle-aged woman, but a little cute, I guess.

"Karen" wrote in message
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"Wendy" wrote in message
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"Karen" wrote in message
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"Wendy" wrote in message
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"Karen" wrote in message
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Well, take a look at his follow up post. He started getting
threatening
letters and phone calls. I'd say he was absolutely right to just
stop
communicating. That was BEFORE the (OMG *GASP* NO) resuce of Conan
from
the
KILL shelter. If you are going to kiss and tell. Tell all yourself.


He also didn't say that he knew who was communicating with him BEFORE
he
went for Conan. Maybe it was the same people who were calling the
shelter
and trying to put the kibosh on the whole rescue NOT Mary or anyone
that
was
trying to work with her to rescue this cat. It makes no logical sense
otherwise. What possible motive would Mary have to threaten Dan at
that
point.

Dan didn't stop communicating at that point either. He wove that
wonderful
story about getting to the shelter too late and then he stopped
communicating. Ya know a simple, I got the cat, I'm being threatened
and
don't want any further involvement and a mail rule blocking incoming
would
have done the trick without the drama and still maintained
credibility.

But that's just my 2¢

W

I only know my personal experiences with Mary over the space of a year
or
two on internet and I find her completely unstable in her with her
switch
and bait tactics. She has also tried to intimidate me with posting in
such
a
way as to let me know that SHE knows personal information about me.
Would
she act on it? Maybe not, but I know that she regularly uses this type
of
pyschological strong arming. IMO there is little difference between her
and
what she is complaining about in regards to others. I"m sorry, but in
MY
experience with her, well, let's just say I wouldn't trust her as far
as
I
could throw her and I don't blame Dan for beginning to get leary once
odd
things started happening.

What amazes me is how while everybody *talks* as though they are
worried
about Conan and one has to wonder. He is NOT going to be euthanized, he
will
find a home that is going to be apparently better than
good -(considering
what we do know about this situation) and the goal was achieved. But
people
can't seem to focus on THAT at all. Instead they are just
SCAAAANdalized
about everything. Hello? What is the truly bottom line important thing?
Conan is OK. I"m sorry, but wherever he is being boarded is probably
leagues
better than a **county kill shelter** and a home is being actively
sought.
I
would think that is what should matter.





The problem with him being boarded is that it's not somewhere people
normally look when they are interested in adopting a cat. I'd rather see
him
in a no kill shelter where he could be seen and then totally neutral
people
would be vetting prospective adopters.


And just how do you know who is and is not seeing Conan?



If he's in a boarding facility it isn't a place that people browse when
looking for a cat. If he has been put in a no kill shelter then yay!

"Karen" wrote


And just how do you know who is and is not seeing Conan?



I know. I have an inside contact, greased a palm or two.

Now then, tell me about my "bait and switch" tactics.
Isn't that something car salemen do?

"Alison" wrote in message
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"Karen" wrote in message
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I only know my personal experiences with Mary over the space of a
year or
two on internet and I find her completely unstable in her with her
switch
and bait tactics. She has also tried to intimidate me with posting
in such a
way as to let me know that SHE knows personal information about me.
Would
she act on it? Maybe not, but I know that she regularly uses this
type of
pyschological strong arming. IMO there is little difference between
her and
what she is complaining about in regards to others. I"m sorry, but
in MY
experience with her, well, let's just say I wouldn't trust her as
far as I
could throw her and I don't blame Dan for beginning to get leary
once odd
things started happening.

Yup nodding

I am so surprised. Golly, Alison.

"Trish" wrote in message
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"Karen" wrote

blah blah whine whine incessant midwest whine.




You should try loosening your buttplug a little, it's affecting your
thinking



Trrrrrissshhhhhhhh!


low five


lowwwww five!

lol!!

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:35:50 -0400, "Wendy"
wrote:



If I read correctly, Dan isn't laying this on anyone. The OP are making
assumptions.

"And since I can't be absolutely sure who is responsible for the threatening
messages, I'm just not sharing info with anyone"


Perhaps he shoudl have somebody look into and track it down. It sounds
like it would be very interesting to know who was threatening him.
Nobody in Mary's group had any reason to since it seemed to be going
as planned. It had to be somebody who wanted to stop the plan.

Tell Dan to ask to report it to his phone company. Especially, if
there are more than 3 calls. That will take it to the police, and they
can find out who really did make those calls.


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Meghan & the Zoo Crew
Equine and Pet Photography
http://www.zoocrewphoto.com

"Karen" wrote in message
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"Wendy" wrote in message
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"Karen" wrote in message
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Well, take a look at his follow up post. He started getting threatening
letters and phone calls. I'd say he was absolutely right to just stop
communicating. That was BEFORE the (OMG *GASP* NO) resuce of Conan from
the
KILL shelter. If you are going to kiss and tell. Tell all yourself.


He also didn't say that he knew who was communicating with him BEFORE he
went for Conan. Maybe it was the same people who were calling the shelter
and trying to put the kibosh on the whole rescue NOT Mary or anyone that
was
trying to work with her to rescue this cat. It makes no logical sense
otherwise. What possible motive would Mary have to threaten Dan at that
point.

Dan didn't stop communicating at that point either. He wove that
wonderful
story about getting to the shelter too late and then he stopped
communicating. Ya know a simple, I got the cat, I'm being threatened and
don't want any further involvement and a mail rule blocking incoming
would
have done the trick without the drama and still maintained credibility.

But that's just my 2¢

W

I only know my personal experiences with Mary over the space of a year or
two on internet and I find her completely unstable in her with her switch
and bait tactics. She has also tried to intimidate me with posting in such
a
way as to let me know that SHE knows personal information about me. Would
she act on it? Maybe not, but I know that she regularly uses this type of
pyschological strong arming. IMO there is little difference between her
and
what she is complaining about in regards to others. I"m sorry, but in MY
experience with her, well, let's just say I wouldn't trust her as far as I
could throw her and I don't blame Dan for beginning to get leary once odd
things started happening.

What amazes me is how while everybody *talks* as though they are worried
about Conan and one has to wonder. He is NOT going to be euthanized, he
will
find a home that is going to be apparently better than good -(considering
what we do know about this situation) and the goal was achieved. But
people
can't seem to focus on THAT at all. Instead they are just SCAAAANdalized
about everything. Hello? What is the truly bottom line important thing?
Conan is OK. I"m sorry, but wherever he is being boarded is probably
leagues
better than a **county kill shelter** and a home is being actively sought.
I
would think that is what should matter.

Karen ... are you really saying the lateral move from a cage in a kill
shelter to a cage in a no-kill shelter is better? REALLY ... what a
concept! It's so simple!

"Trish" wrote in message
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"Karen" wrote in message
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"Wendy" wrote in message
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"Karen" wrote in message
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Well, take a look at his follow up post. He started getting
threatening
letters and phone calls. I'd say he was absolutely right to just stop
communicating. That was BEFORE the (OMG *GASP* NO) resuce of Conan
from
the
KILL shelter. If you are going to kiss and tell. Tell all yourself.


He also didn't say that he knew who was communicating with him BEFORE
he
went for Conan. Maybe it was the same people who were calling the
shelter
and trying to put the kibosh on the whole rescue NOT Mary or anyone
that
was
trying to work with her to rescue this cat. It makes no logical sense
otherwise. What possible motive would Mary have to threaten Dan at that
point.

Dan didn't stop communicating at that point either. He wove that
wonderful
story about getting to the shelter too late and then he stopped
communicating. Ya know a simple, I got the cat, I'm being threatened
and
don't want any further involvement and a mail rule blocking incoming
would
have done the trick without the drama and still maintained credibility.

But that's just my 2¢

W

I only know my personal experiences with Mary over the space of a year or
two on internet and I find her completely unstable in her with her switch
and bait tactics. She has also tried to intimidate me with posting in
such
a
way as to let me know that SHE knows personal information about me. Would
she act on it? Maybe not, but I know that she regularly uses this type of
pyschological strong arming. IMO there is little difference between her
and
what she is complaining about in regards to others. I"m sorry, but in MY
experience with her, well, let's just say I wouldn't trust her as far as
I
could throw her and I don't blame Dan for beginning to get leary once odd
things started happening.

What amazes me is how while everybody *talks* as though they are worried
about Conan and one has to wonder. He is NOT going to be euthanized, he
will
find a home that is going to be apparently better than good -(considering
what we do know about this situation) and the goal was achieved. But
people
can't seem to focus on THAT at all. Instead they are just SCAAAANdalized
about everything. Hello? What is the truly bottom line important thing?
Conan is OK. I"m sorry, but wherever he is being boarded is probably
leagues
better than a **county kill shelter** and a home is being actively
sought.
I
would think that is what should matter.



You should try loosening your buttplug a little, it's affecting your
thinking

Ah... the voice of experience in peyote use.

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 16:19:50 -0500, "Karen"
wrote:


What amazes me is how while everybody *talks* as though they are worried
about Conan and one has to wonder. He is NOT going to be euthanized, he will
find a home that is going to be apparently better than good -(considering
what we do know about this situation) and the goal was achieved.

It is not a done deal. The money is adding up, and sooner or later
they will have to stop.

They aren't going to want to admit failure, so unless they find a good
home soon, they will probably just put him in a shelter, and then
euthanasia could be a possibilty again.

We can't say that that the goal was achieved until it is done. It
hasn't happened yet, so we can't know for sure what will happen.

I am really worried that they will get frustrated and just dump him
rather than admit failure.


--
Meghan & the Zoo Crew
Equine and Pet Photography
http://www.zoocrewphoto.com

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:31:54 -0400, "Wendy"
wrote:


The problem with him being boarded is that it's not somewhere people
normally look when they are interested in adopting a cat. I'd rather see him
in a no kill shelter where he could be seen and then totally neutral people
would be vetting prospective adopters.



I definitely agree with that. Cut out the newspaper ads and just get
into a shelter where his life isn't in danger, and he will be seen by
potential adopters.


He's not going to entice somebody to adopt him unless he can grab
their heart in person. And the longer it takes, the harder it will be.



--
Meghan & the Zoo Crew
Equine and Pet Photography
http://www.zoocrewphoto.com