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Animals do not "anticipate"
"Leif Erikson" wrote
That's part of what makes it a GOOD example. The kind You're not worth the effort it takes to respond to any more beyond this. -- Bob http://www.kanyak.com |
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Opinicus wrote:
"Leif Erikson" wrote That's part of what makes it a GOOD example. The kind You're not worth the effort it takes to respond to any more beyond this. Good, if rather graceless, concession, Bob. I addressed your claims civilly and comprehensively, and all you can do is whine and then run away. |
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Animals do not "anticipate"
Animals do anticipate. The book called Dogs Don't Lie About Love has
many examples. Dogs know at least 300 words according to Stanley Coren along with their meaning and so along with the word associations there are timing associations as dogs are very aware of time, case in point, I used to go for a walk twice a day with an English Springer Spaniel. I would go at 11 A.M. and 7 P.M. Tylo the dog would go to the top of the couch half an hour before I used to come and speak as some dogs do which is different then barking, dog speak so to say. This would happen every day for a year. One day I was not able to walk Tylo due to something urgent coming up and I was not by a phone to let my friend who had Tylo know, Tylo was so upset they had to calm him down for two hours. And the next time I came he was all hang tail and anxious until he saw that I was back to walking. It was so upsetting to see his reaction I began to take my cell phone so I could let my friend know. Now if he was told I was not coming he would accept it and go and play with his toys or cuddle with the owners. Animals are very multi-dimensional and more ware than we give them credit for generally. They have a sixth sense that can also make them intuative. Show Dog Bark |
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Animals do not "anticipate"
showdogbark wrote:
Animals do anticipate. They do not. The book called Dogs Don't Lie About Love has many examples. That book is nothing but anthropomorphic projection. Dogs know at least 300 words according to Stanley Coren along with their meaning and so along with the word associations there are timing associations as dogs are very aware of time, case in point, I used to go for a walk twice a day with an English Springer Spaniel. I would go at 11 A.M. and 7 P.M. Tylo the dog would go [snip sentimental treacle] You are seeing what you want to see in dogs. It isn't really there. You are projecting. |
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Eden wrote: showdogbark wrote: Animals do anticipate. They do not. The book called Dogs Don't Lie About Love has many examples. That book is nothing but anthropomorphic projection. Dogs know at least 300 words according to Stanley Coren along with their meaning and so along with the word associations there are timing associations as dogs are very aware of time, case in point, I used to go for a walk twice a day with an English Springer Spaniel. I would go at 11 A.M. and 7 P.M. Tylo the dog would go [snip sentimental treacle] You are seeing what you want to see in dogs. It isn't really there. You are projecting. And you are a very odd little man Goober. |
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Animals do not "anticipate"
On Wed, 10 May 2006, Goo foolishly and absurdly thought:
Opinicus wrote: Goo hilariously compared the ability to understand language, with the ability to anticipate :-) If you telephone the veterinarian and make an appointment to take your dog in, and the dog is sitting in the room with you as you make the call, the dog does not anticipate the trip to the vet; but if you do the same thing with a child age 5 or more, there's a very good chance the child will know he is going to be seeing the doctor. That's anticipation. Bad example because it depends on language ability. That's part of what makes it a GOOD example. The kind of anticipation you and ****wit David Harrison are trying to attribute to dogs and other animals By YOUR denial of its very existence is admittedly beyond your ability to even recognise, much less understand or consider in any detail Goobernicus. *absolutely* depends on language - LOL! Mine doesn't, you poor fool. You make such an ass of yourself when you attempt to think about things that you deny even exist Goober. LOL... Your attempt to interpret things you can't understand clearly shows the sort of absurd and foolish conclusions that are the best you're capable of, Goo. that's why animals don't experience it. They experience anticipation that's not dependant on language Goob. No emotions are dependant on language Goober, as I've mentioned before. In fact no emotions can even be described with language, as I've mentioned before. And we've also seen evidence of that, by the fact that YOU can not describe any emotion using language. You are a fool for thinking that it can be done, and an even bigger fool for not comprehending that it can't. Here's an example that doesn't. Our 1-year old German Shepherd/Dobe mix hated getting wet in any way whatsoever. On one occasion when it was raining he had to *go* so he went to the door and indicated he wanted to be let out. Knowing that it was raining and wondering what he'd do, I opened the door. He took a couple of steps out the door and immediately retreated back inside. I shut the door. After a few moments he must have had a canine "aha" moment because he went to the *back* door and indicated he wanted to be let out. Amused, I opened that door, he took a couple of steps, etc etc. Now I call this anticipation. Why? Because he was anticipating So you need to use the word "anticipation" in order to explain why what he was doing was "anticipation". Nice trick; also completely invalid. The dog was not "anticipating" anything. If the dog was not anticipating being let out the first door, why did he go to it indicating that he wanted to be? If the dog did not anticipate getting wet if he went out in the rain, why did he retreat back in instead of going out and getting? If the dog did not anticipate being let out the second door, why did he go to it indicating that he wanted to be? If the dog did not anticipate getting wet if he went out in the rain AGAIN, why did he retreat back in instead of going out AGAIN? How could your absurdity about projections by humans, have caused the dog to behave in a way that clearly appeared to be several examples of anticipation? Goo??? How??? For once instead of ineptly maundering off, just *try* to explain yourself Goober! |
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On 11 May 2006 10:32:16 -0700, "shrubkiller" wrote:
Eden wrote: showdogbark wrote: Animals do anticipate. They do not. The book called Dogs Don't Lie About Love has many examples. That book is nothing but anthropomorphic projection. Dogs know at least 300 words according to Stanley Coren along with their meaning and so along with the word associations there are timing associations as dogs are very aware of time, case in point, I used to go for a walk twice a day with an English Springer Spaniel. I would go at 11 A.M. and 7 P.M. Tylo the dog would go [snip sentimental treacle] You are seeing what you want to see in dogs. It isn't really there. You are projecting. How does your supposed projection change the behavior of animals, you poor, bewildered, feverishly confused, necessarily inept Goobal idiot? And you are a very odd little man Goober. I wonder if there's a name for Goo's particular form of idiocy. Maybe Goobernical Syndrome, or something like that... |
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On 15 May 2006 an inept Goober dishonestly "boasted":
NOTHING you can understand is beyond my or any other sane person's ability, ****wit. I understand how some farm animals benefit from farming. You can't. |
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On 15 May 2006 10:59:14 -0700, "shrubkiller" wrote:
wrote: On 11 May 2006 10:32:16 -0700, "shrubkiller" wrote: Eden wrote: showdogbark wrote: Animals do anticipate. They do not. The book called Dogs Don't Lie About Love has many examples. That book is nothing but anthropomorphic projection. Dogs know at least 300 words according to Stanley Coren along with their meaning and so along with the word associations there are timing associations as dogs are very aware of time, case in point, I used to go for a walk twice a day with an English Springer Spaniel. I would go at 11 A.M. and 7 P.M. Tylo the dog would go [snip sentimental treacle] You are seeing what you want to see in dogs. It isn't really there. You are projecting. How does your supposed projection change the behavior of animals, you poor, bewildered, feverishly confused, necessarily inept Goobal idiot? And you are a very odd little man Goober. I wonder if there's a name for Goo's particular form of idiocy. Maybe Goobernical Syndrome, or something like that... It would take a battalion of shrinks to unravel the GOOBER and examine his inner workings. And they would probably have to become absurdly inept themselves in order to ever understand Goo's idiocy...and maybe not even then. In this and other areas we see that the Goober amusingly can't decide what he believes himself, while at the same time he tries to absurdify the beliefs of others. Goobernicus has pretended to lamely explain what causes behavior, while at other times he ineptly and dishonestly maunders that the behavior he pretended to explain doesn't even exist: "it is merely giving a CONDITIONED RESPONSE to a signal." - Goo "The dog didn't do what Darwin said. His statement of the "changes in behavior" is not reliable." - Goo |
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