And...

sshhhhh don't tell that, otherwise i might get forced into it,... years ago
a lot of the r/s facilities were office bldg snack bars and news paper
stands, now its more vending, just a very few cafeterias and snak bars left,
Lee
"Jofirey" wrote in message
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"cshenk" wrote in message
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We have a blind co-worker at our local workplace who's in an unusual job
for a blind person.

He works part time at the little food place downstairs as a cashier,
being now retired from some other job and just wanting to be around
people. You just tell him what you have and he rings it up like anyone
else and can work change same as any of us, but you have to tell him the
denomination of the billls handed over. He also handles all the heavy
lifting when new stock comes in.

I can tell ya more funny stories about him but most are not really
related to him being blind (since birth). Only related one is he
registered for the draft like everyone else in the Korean (or was it
Vietnam?) era and got called up. When they wouldnt take him, he hired a
lawyer and sued! He says the military came back that he was 4F over flat
feet (grin).


When I used to go to work with my mom, far too many years ago, the guys
that worked in the building snack bar were always blind. I thought it was
pretty normal at the time. And I'm pretty sure it was common to a lot of
office buildings in the area. Really just a matter of having everything
in the same place all the time.

I know you don't need your eyes to cook. The nose knows.

Jo

Lee, I remember him telling that and how we laughed. Poor man, it was
almost humiliating at the time. He said he was glad he heard no one else in
there.
"Stormmee" wrote in message
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a male friend told me about his first encounter with an auto urinal, he
goes into the room, walks with his cane t o where he figures the urinals
are, you can generally guess from sounds and how the door entry is where
the stalls/urinals are, he approaches wher he thinks it should be, he hears
a flush, figures he has walked up behind someone, sayse excuse me, and
takes a step back... no zipper sound, no sink sounds, no door sounds,
finally he steps forward again, flush... repeat, after a couple more times,
he really has to go so he fgures what the h and just walks up and goes...
almost doesn't make it, his feet setting off HIS urinal and his cane
repeated ly setting off the one next to him... he was really exhausted by
the time he got out of there... his wife, said he used way too much energy
in a public toilet for her comfort level, she teased him for quite a while
over that, Lee,

lovingly remembering larry, rip
"Jofirey" wrote in message
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"Stormmee" wrote in message
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yes you can explain most components of it, because you know there are
colors something you can't acess, and something i learned before i lost
all of mine, the biggest abuse of blind people in an every day living
sort of way is the fact that public restrooms MUST be accessable for
wheelchair people, but they don't do things like make the paper rolls be
in the same place in the stalls, not just restroom to restroom but in
different stalls in the same restroom. and the towel racks/soap
dispensers and hand dryers are everywhere at differing hieights, its
very easy to understand and explain to those who can see how
disconcerting and physically painful it is when you can't find or run
into the towel dispenser... Lee


I can at least imagine how difficult it must be, because all the
different designs etc are a problem even if you can see. The newer magic
eye sinks and toilets and towel dispensers have to be especially
disconcerting. Its bad enough when you are looking at them and can't get
them to operate properly.

Jo

as with many things, its MUCH funnier later on, the funniest part was his
wife's reaction, she wasn't a big teser but she sure gave it to him on that
one, Lee
"Granby" wrote in message
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Lee, I remember him telling that and how we laughed. Poor man, it was
almost humiliating at the time. He said he was glad he heard no one else
in there.
"Stormmee" wrote in message
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a male friend told me about his first encounter with an auto urinal, he
goes into the room, walks with his cane t o where he figures the urinals
are, you can generally guess from sounds and how the door entry is where
the stalls/urinals are, he approaches wher he thinks it should be, he
hears a flush, figures he has walked up behind someone, sayse excuse me,
and takes a step back... no zipper sound, no sink sounds, no door sounds,
finally he steps forward again, flush... repeat, after a couple more
times, he really has to go so he fgures what the h and just walks up and
goes... almost doesn't make it, his feet setting off HIS urinal and his
cane repeated ly setting off the one next to him... he was really
exhausted by the time he got out of there... his wife, said he used way
too much energy in a public toilet for her comfort level, she teased him
for quite a while over that, Lee,

lovingly remembering larry, rip
"Jofirey" wrote in message
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"Stormmee" wrote in message
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yes you can explain most components of it, because you know there are
colors something you can't acess, and something i learned before i lost
all of mine, the biggest abuse of blind people in an every day living
sort of way is the fact that public restrooms MUST be accessable for
wheelchair people, but they don't do things like make the paper rolls
be in the same place in the stalls, not just restroom to restroom but
in different stalls in the same restroom. and the towel racks/soap
dispensers and hand dryers are everywhere at differing hieights, its
very easy to understand and explain to those who can see how
disconcerting and physically painful it is when you can't find or run
into the towel dispenser... Lee


I can at least imagine how difficult it must be, because all the
different designs etc are a problem even if you can see. The newer
magic eye sinks and toilets and towel dispensers have to be especially
disconcerting. Its bad enough when you are looking at them and can't
get them to operate properly.

Jo

wrote:
Christina Websell wrote:

We blind-ish people will always stick together.
Those who have perfect sight do not have a clue - and even the kind people
who think they can imagine it cannot. Truly.
You have to have it to know what it's like.

That's certainly true. And nobody knows that better than someone who
once had normal sight and then lost it (or is in the process of losing
it). I think someone who was born with poor sight (or none) would have
just as much trouble explaining exactly what is missing, because they've
never known anything different. You may be aware that most people around
you can do a bunch of things you can't, and that the world is designed
for their abilities and not for yours. But can you really explain to
someone what it's *like* not to have sight, if you've never had it?

Joyce


Being an overly sensitive sort, I should have expected the dear little
darlings in my 6th grade class to tease me unmercifully when I finally
got a pair of glasses for my extreme nearsightedness. Instead I was so
amazed that I could see individual leaves on the trees outside the
classroom that I didn't even notice that my classmates were at it. The
teasing stopped in less than a day rather than lasting for weeks or
months.

I have never been able to explain the wonder and amazement of watching
the play of sun and shadows over the individual leaves on the trees.

Pam S.

Stormmee wrote:
yes you can explain most components of it, because you know there are colors
something you can't acess, and something i learned before i lost all of
mine, the biggest abuse of blind people in an every day living sort of way
is the fact that public restrooms MUST be accessable for wheelchair people,
but they don't do things like make the paper rolls be in the same place in
the stalls, not just restroom to restroom but in different stalls in the
same restroom. and the towel racks/soap dispensers and hand dryers are
everywhere at differing hieights, its very easy to understand and explain to
those who can see how disconcerting and physically painful it is when you
can't find or run into the towel dispenser... Lee
wrote in message
...
Christina Websell wrote:

We blind-ish people will always stick together.
Those who have perfect sight do not have a clue - and even the kind
people
who think they can imagine it cannot. Truly.
You have to have it to know what it's like.
That's certainly true. And nobody knows that better than someone who
once had normal sight and then lost it (or is in the process of losing
it). I think someone who was born with poor sight (or none) would have
just as much trouble explaining exactly what is missing, because they've
never known anything different. You may be aware that most people around
you can do a bunch of things you can't, and that the world is designed
for their abilities and not for yours. But can you really explain to
someone what it's *like* not to have sight, if you've never had it?

Joyce

--
Excuse for Not Doing One's Homework:
My pit bull, here, ate it.
-- J.D. Berry, Springfield



I never thought of that, although I've had problems myself in finding
where they hide that G*d awful toilet paper they use in place of paper
towels. Or the soap, or the nozzle of the soap.

Pam S. who won't tell the one about how she sprayed herself with air
freshener thinking it was a soap dispenser.

I could still se relatively well for me when i met DH, looking into his eyes
is just that sensation, his eyes are i think offically listed as hazel, but
when i got close enough to see them they are a thousand colors of green and
brown and any light that hit them was that same green brown light/shadow
wonderment that is a natureal light show, Lee
"tanadashoes" wrote in message
m...
wrote:
Christina Websell wrote:

We blind-ish people will always stick together.
Those who have perfect sight do not have a clue - and even the kind
people who think they can imagine it cannot. Truly.
You have to have it to know what it's like.

That's certainly true. And nobody knows that better than someone who
once had normal sight and then lost it (or is in the process of losing
it). I think someone who was born with poor sight (or none) would have
just as much trouble explaining exactly what is missing, because they've
never known anything different. You may be aware that most people around
you can do a bunch of things you can't, and that the world is designed
for their abilities and not for yours. But can you really explain to
someone what it's *like* not to have sight, if you've never had it?

Joyce


Being an overly sensitive sort, I should have expected the dear little
darlings in my 6th grade class to tease me unmercifully when I finally got
a pair of glasses for my extreme nearsightedness. Instead I was so amazed
that I could see individual leaves on the trees outside the classroom that
I didn't even notice that my classmates were at it. The teasing stopped
in less than a day rather than lasting for weeks or months.

I have never been able to explain the wonder and amazement of watching the
play of sun and shadows over the individual leaves on the trees.

Pam S.

another one since you aere o on it is lotion instead of soap and then can't
find soap to get the lotion you become quickly aware you are allergic to off
your hands... if the john has lotion it oughtta have an attendant, would be
worth a buck to not repeat that one, Lee
"tanadashoes" wrote in message
m...
Stormmee wrote:
yes you can explain most components of it, because you know there are
colors something you can't acess, and something i learned before i lost
all of mine, the biggest abuse of blind people in an every day living
sort of way is the fact that public restrooms MUST be accessable for
wheelchair people, but they don't do things like make the paper rolls be
in the same place in the stalls, not just restroom to restroom but in
different stalls in the same restroom. and the towel racks/soap
dispensers and hand dryers are everywhere at differing hieights, its very
easy to understand and explain to those who can see how disconcerting and
physically painful it is when you can't find or run into the towel
dispenser... Lee
wrote in message
...
Christina Websell wrote:

We blind-ish people will always stick together.
Those who have perfect sight do not have a clue - and even the kind
people
who think they can imagine it cannot. Truly.
You have to have it to know what it's like.
That's certainly true. And nobody knows that better than someone who
once had normal sight and then lost it (or is in the process of losing
it). I think someone who was born with poor sight (or none) would have
just as much trouble explaining exactly what is missing, because they've
never known anything different. You may be aware that most people around
you can do a bunch of things you can't, and that the world is designed
for their abilities and not for yours. But can you really explain to
someone what it's *like* not to have sight, if you've never had it?

Joyce

--
Excuse for Not Doing One's Homework:
My pit bull, here, ate it.
-- J.D. Berry, Springfield



I never thought of that, although I've had problems myself in finding
where they hide that G*d awful toilet paper they use in place of paper
towels. Or the soap, or the nozzle of the soap.

Pam S. who won't tell the one about how she sprayed herself with air
freshener thinking it was a soap dispenser.

Stormmee wrote:
no its a dammed either way, the ones who want to help and grab you get
offendd if you say no thanks, and the ones who know a blind person ask
before ever putting a hand on you... and besides my acid toungue is so hard
put to stay silent i often have all i can do to say things like:

no thanks, i have been taking a sh*t on my own for 45 years now, and whle i
anticipate needing wiped in a few years NOW is not that time and YOU are not
who i intend to pay to do it...

Lee



That is TOO funny. Thanks,

Pam S.

i have always managed to keep it to myself, but the DH.... now understand,
he is err, reserved at his best... very polite and proper... but once in a
while he shocks and pleases me with an audable chunck of verbage that is
just too thrilling...

we were at a casino that has a family assistance room, so when i can i use
that because i know where everything is, and its generally cleaner than the
big ones... i am doing what needs doing, just after i clicked the door
locked, i hear this violent rattling of the knob... a shrill woman's voice:
honey, honey, do you need help? i can come in and help??? are you ok in
there all alone??? please respond dearie or i will go get scurity to help
you...

I think: dear god, please let security see her and take her away, must be
one too many adult beverages... I flush...

OH MY GOD!!!! are you ok!!!,

now DH evidentally had been girl watching or something and i hear the very
polite cultured voice of the DH with the barely noticable chicago accent
say: can i help you ma'am, the room is occupied...

shrill woman: yes she handicapped and i am sure needs help she went in ther
ALONE!!!

Soft DH with culured voice*which I can now tell is trying to not burst out
laughing* says: yes she has some diabilities, one of which is an extremely
short temper, which has been made worse by impending menopause, and of
course she is blind, but in the twenty plus years i have known her wiping
her a** has not been one of them...

dead slience until i came out of the room...

DH is leaning up agains the wall with his face almost smooched into it
trying to not laugh husterically... he said she got a look on her face that
was somewhere between horror at his bluntness, and even more horror at the
concept of actually entering the bathroom and being confronted with what she
might have been asked to do by a less able person...

and this is why he only has to make me laugh once a month, the funny usually
makes me gigglgle for at least that long, Lee
"tanadashoes" wrote in message
m...
Stormmee wrote:
no its a dammed either way, the ones who want to help and grab you get
offendd if you say no thanks, and the ones who know a blind person ask
before ever putting a hand on you... and besides my acid toungue is so
hard put to stay silent i often have all i can do to say things like:

no thanks, i have been taking a sh*t on my own for 45 years now, and whle
i anticipate needing wiped in a few years NOW is not that time and YOU
are not who i intend to pay to do it...

Lee



That is TOO funny. Thanks,

Pam S.

On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:01:22 -0500, Stormmee wrote:

another one since you aere o on it is lotion instead of soap and then
can't find soap to get the lotion you become quickly aware you are
allergic to off your hands... if the john has lotion it oughtta have an
attendant, would be worth a buck to not repeat that one, Lee
"tanadashoes" wrote in message
m...
Stormmee wrote:
yes you can explain most components of it, because you know there are
colors something you can't acess, and something i learned before i
lost all of mine, the biggest abuse of blind people in an every day
living sort of way is the fact that public restrooms MUST be
accessable for wheelchair people, but they don't do things like make
the paper rolls be in the same place in the stalls, not just restroom
to restroom but in different stalls in the same restroom. and the
towel racks/soap dispensers and hand dryers are everywhere at
differing hieights, its very easy to understand and explain to those
who can see how disconcerting and physically painful it is when you
can't find or run into the towel dispenser... Lee
wrote in message
...
Christina Websell wrote:

We blind-ish people will always stick together. Those who have
perfect sight do not have a clue - and even the kind people
who think they can imagine it cannot. Truly. You have to have it to
know what it's like.
That's certainly true. And nobody knows that better than someone who
once had normal sight and then lost it (or is in the process of
losing it). I think someone who was born with poor sight (or none)
would have just as much trouble explaining exactly what is missing,
because they've never known anything different. You may be aware that
most people around you can do a bunch of things you can't, and that
the world is designed for their abilities and not for yours. But can
you really explain to someone what it's *like* not to have sight, if
you've never had it?

Joyce

--
Excuse for Not Doing One's Homework:
My pit bull, here, ate it.
-- J.D. Berry, Springfield



I never thought of that, although I've had problems myself in finding
where they hide that G*d awful toilet paper they use in place of paper
towels. Or the soap, or the nozzle of the soap.

Pam S. who won't tell the one about how she sprayed herself with air
freshener thinking it was a soap dispenser.

I once tried to clean my glasses with liquid soap, only to find out too
late that someone had filled the soap dispenser with hand lotion, which
wouldn't rinse off my glasses. I finally had to ask a female shop clerk
to take my glasses into the ladies' room and clean them, since the
ladie's room had soap in their dispenser. The hand lotion had my glasses
so gummed up that I otherwise would have been unable to drive home.

--
John F. Eldredge --
"Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better
than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria