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UPDATE: : Cat keeps throwing up
On 2013-02-05 05:24:47 +0000, IBen Getiner said:
On Feb 4, 10:42Â*am, dgk wrote: On Mon, 4 Feb 2013 03:48:12 -0800 (PST),IBenGetiner wrote: On Feb 4, 2:26Â*am, Clara Semps wrote: Thought I'd give you an update on poor Furby's nasal condition. It hasn't improved at all but he actually seems to be practicing a meditation technique to keep his stomach calm (I kid you not) and hasn't thrown up in weeks. I've tried ALL of your suggestions, from the pill pocket (turns up his nose at it even without a pill inside) to a seafood mix with the crushed pill (yuck, ptooey), to liquid using an injector (moreon his face than down his throat) to trying to put the pill down his throat with the pill injector. The last gifted me with several rather deep bites on my thumb and my roomie has some nice gashes on his arms from our attempts. sigh He's gained a little bit of weight now that he's not throwing up as much but still just a miserable kitty as he sits here on my dining room chairs (now covered with towels) and drips. I've taken to calling him Booger Boy. He seems to like it and while he's no where near as well as he should be or I'd like him, he's gained a little weight back and is Â*hanging with me more often, though I've taken to walking around with a nappy on my shoulder. ROTFL I do love this guy. He's my mama's boy and actually lets me wipe his eyes and nose now. Such a baby. Jacksie, the holy terror aka the Brat, is another pleasure to have round the house when she's not torturing Furby. But I feel sorry for her because the only one who plays with her is me and I don't have the time every day. Poor thing. She's now taken to curling up against my butt in the morning so she can have some fun first thing when i wake. LOL Anyway, there's the update. Hope you all had a really Happy Holiday and a wonderful New Year! Sorry for the delay but it's been busy. information helps you. Clair.... Here is a link describing the procedure that I spoke of in my previous posting. It really is the best way to go, assuming that you want to be in control of the situation and not let it be in control of you. : ) http://www.petdr.com/declawdesc.htm IBen Many of us know cats that had problems after having half of their fingers amputated. I had one cat that had been "declawed" and he was never really happy, could never follow the other cats on the cat trees or any of the high places they like to go. And he was a big biter, and none of my other cats do that. I've never had problems with any of my cats scratching furiture. I provide plenty of scratching materials and they love those. Once in a while I do end up with a scratch, but that's a small price to pay for leaving the cat as it was created. So you're saying that he became a biter due to that little operation....??! I defy you to prove it. Our cat was a biter BEFORE he had those needless bothersome knives removed. Just FYI. Declawing produces NONE of the issues that you blame on it. Our boys have never been happier, and they exhibit no ill effects at all. It's all IN YOUR HEAD. You're against the procedure because you subscribe to the mindset of "let the cat run wild and do as he pleases". To people like you RULES and the word "NO" are forbidden territory. Why don't you just admit it instead of trying to twist this poor ignorant woman’s mind? Be a big time saver in the long run (since I have forever and a day to make my point). IBen You're a complete idiot and have little valuable medical and psychiatric knowledge about felines if you think declawing them is an acceptable way to control unwanted behavior. Any vet will tell you it is common place for a feline to begin biting much more after being declawed. Their claws are their first line of defense and without them they often feel even more helpless and become fearful much easier. Naturally they're going to bite instead, this is just plain common sense. Newsflash: Cats have claws and they need to scratch things. This is natural. If you're having problems with your cat destroying items then either you are not an effective and responsible pet owner, or you should not have cats. If you have any reason at all that is not medical to remove a cats toes then YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE A CAT. You have forever and a day to make your point because you have no life, maybe this is why you obsess over controlling your cats natural behaviors? Do you need a job? I bet you do. Jesse |
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UPDATE: : Cat keeps throwing up
On 2013-02-06 20:58:38 +0000, dgk said:
Anecdotal evidence is always difficult to prove. But the cats balance is all on those paws, and amputating the entire first half of their fingers is going to ruin it. Not just removal of the nail. They cut off the entire finger beyond the knuckle. How would you like that done to you? I really don't like arguing with people. There are both good and bad reasons for declawing and not declawing. However, you cannot prove any of it to those who have alternate experience. Tell my cats they can't balance, leap or teleport to the highest points in my house. It's all I can do to keep them off the kitchen counters. They seem no worse for the wear, though I'll admit, I don't think I'd declaw a cat that was older than a year. The younger the better as it seems to make for a very easy adjustment. At least in my experience with the cats I've had over the years. Clara |
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UPDATE: : Cat keeps throwing up
On 2013-02-06 21:55:11 +0000, Jesse said:
You're a complete idiot and have little valuable medical and psychiatric knowledge about felines if you think declawing them is an acceptable way to control unwanted behavior. snipped for brevity Jesse, Please don't let this conversation decline to personal insults. You will never change anyone's mind by calling them names. I've read many different thesis, theories, dissertations and articles about declawing. There are many vets who would refute what you say, else why would they do it. Not all vets are out just for the money. Regardless, sinking to attacking the opposition doesn't help your cause. You are both entitled to your beliefs. This is a controversy that has been going on for years with FACTS on both sides, both anecdotal and clinical. Just agree to disagree. No one is forcing you to declaw your cats and probably never could. Believe me, you can't force anyone to NOT declaw their cat if they want to, so why bother? Clara |
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UPDATE: : Cat keeps throwing up
Clara Semps wrote:
On 2013-02-06 20:58:38 +0000, dgk said: Anecdotal evidence is always difficult to prove. But the cats balance is all on those paws, and amputating the entire first half of their fingers is going to ruin it. Not just removal of the nail. They cut off the entire finger beyond the knuckle. How would you like that done to you? I really don't like arguing with people. There are both good and bad reasons for declawing and not declawing. However, you cannot prove any of it to those who have alternate experience. Tell my cats they can't balance, leap or teleport to the highest points in my house. It's all I can do to keep them off the kitchen counters. They seem no worse for the wear, though I'll admit, I don't think I'd declaw a cat that was older than a year. The younger the better as it seems to make for a very easy adjustment. At least in my experience with the cats I've had over the years. Clara In my case, I keep "outside" cats. Declawing is out of the question. It would be the exuivalent of the government taking my guns away from me, so I would have to remain huddled in my house, hiding under my bed, afraid to go anywhere, or do anything..... |
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UPDATE: : Cat keeps throwing up
Clara Semps wrote:
On 2013-02-06 21:55:11 +0000, Jesse said: You're a complete idiot and have little valuable medical and psychiatric knowledge about felines if you think declawing them is an acceptable way to control unwanted behavior. snipped for brevity Jesse, Please don't let this conversation decline to personal insults. You will never change anyone's mind by calling them names. I've read many different thesis, theories, dissertations and articles about declawing. There are many vets who would refute what you say, else why would they do it. Not all vets are out just for the money. Regardless, sinking to attacking the opposition doesn't help your cause. You are both entitled to your beliefs. This is a controversy that has been going on for years with FACTS on both sides, both anecdotal and clinical. Just agree to disagree. No one is forcing you to declaw your cats and probably never could. Believe me, you can't force anyone to NOT declaw their cat if they want to, so why bother? Clara Bingo! If you keep indoor cats, and have a house full of valuable antique furniture, then there is no intrinsic reason why you should not declaw them, But by the same token, don't tell me that I should not keep outside cats. I cater to those cats who were feral, or raised to live and love outside. They come to me as abandoned strays, looking for a little love and care, and a free meal now and then. Not to be put into my jail. When I take one in, I know he/she is going to cost me a bundle for shots, and neutering, and cat food for life. And all I ask for this is the pleasure of knowing that they are protected from a hostile world. I wasn't the one who created them to be tortured by cold and hunger every year. It was an unfeeling God who does that. I am just trying to undo some of "His work"..... |
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