Crackles has Cancer

P. Cox wrote:

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I hope
specialists are in need of materials, I was thinking of brochures to
explain procedures and illnesses and such. I could make him a whole
series and not care if he gets the better end of the deal if he could
help crackles.

I'm not sure about what values to present tho, I've only worked in an
Inhouse graphics department before so we didn't have to deal with
billing or anything. Any Suggestions? p

Certainly human specialists usually like having brochures - or
factsheets, etc. You could even ask if he has a website - perhaps he
could do with some images or logos for that. Do you do website design?
Websites are expensive and if you are prepared to do a nice one for him
for free (and/or the vet hospital), that is a fair deal.

Re. pricing, it's very individual and as I'm in the UK it may not be
comparable. You can get really cheap one-color tri-fold brochures done
by your local copy shop, or you can pay mega bucks and get a specialist
design agency to do a full colour job to your exact specifications. I
did a quick web search and prices seem to range from $40 to $175 per
hour. A few online services charge around $300 for a set number of
brochures including printing, but I guess the design you get for that
prices wouldn't be that special. Other companies charge $400 per page!!
I recently charged £150 (around $280) for a set of letterheads, comps
slips and business cards, including design of company logo, but that was
for a friend and it was very much cut-price! Should probably have been
2-3 times more than that commercially.

Of course you don't want to pay for printing so he would have to pay for
that - unless you run off a set number on your home printer, or design
it so it can be copied in-house or printed on his own PC.

I would think the first hurdle is to see if Crackles can have the
surgery at all, or if it isn't an option. If he can, and if the vet is
interested in the idea of payment in kind, then you can discuss what he
might want and what you can do. I would think a series of illustrated
fact sheets for pet owners should be attractive to any decent
specialist, and maybe he will be prepared to copy them in-house for free
(if grayscale) or print out a dozen at a time on a home PC (if colour).
Maybe add in the offer of personalised stationery design for him as
well, and a logo/business card - again that can be printed on a home PC
setup using the pre-cut blank cards, I would think most professionals
would like to have that. As you say, be prepared to give quite a bit
more than you receive, so to speak - if he is prepared to go along with
it, it's definitely worth it if Crackles can benefit from the operation.

Hope this helps -

Deb.
--
http://www.scientific-art.com

"He looked a fierce and quarrelsome cat, but claw he never would;
He only bit the ones he loved, because they tasted good." S. Greenfield

P. Cox wrote:

(snip)
I hope
specialists are in need of materials, I was thinking of brochures to
explain procedures and illnesses and such. I could make him a whole
series and not care if he gets the better end of the deal if he could
help crackles.

I'm not sure about what values to present tho, I've only worked in an
Inhouse graphics department before so we didn't have to deal with
billing or anything. Any Suggestions? p

Certainly human specialists usually like having brochures - or
factsheets, etc. You could even ask if he has a website - perhaps he
could do with some images or logos for that. Do you do website design?
Websites are expensive and if you are prepared to do a nice one for him
for free (and/or the vet hospital), that is a fair deal.

Re. pricing, it's very individual and as I'm in the UK it may not be
comparable. You can get really cheap one-color tri-fold brochures done
by your local copy shop, or you can pay mega bucks and get a specialist
design agency to do a full colour job to your exact specifications. I
did a quick web search and prices seem to range from $40 to $175 per
hour. A few online services charge around $300 for a set number of
brochures including printing, but I guess the design you get for that
prices wouldn't be that special. Other companies charge $400 per page!!
I recently charged £150 (around $280) for a set of letterheads, comps
slips and business cards, including design of company logo, but that was
for a friend and it was very much cut-price! Should probably have been
2-3 times more than that commercially.

Of course you don't want to pay for printing so he would have to pay for
that - unless you run off a set number on your home printer, or design
it so it can be copied in-house or printed on his own PC.

I would think the first hurdle is to see if Crackles can have the
surgery at all, or if it isn't an option. If he can, and if the vet is
interested in the idea of payment in kind, then you can discuss what he
might want and what you can do. I would think a series of illustrated
fact sheets for pet owners should be attractive to any decent
specialist, and maybe he will be prepared to copy them in-house for free
(if grayscale) or print out a dozen at a time on a home PC (if colour).
Maybe add in the offer of personalised stationery design for him as
well, and a logo/business card - again that can be printed on a home PC
setup using the pre-cut blank cards, I would think most professionals
would like to have that. As you say, be prepared to give quite a bit
more than you receive, so to speak - if he is prepared to go along with
it, it's definitely worth it if Crackles can benefit from the operation.

Hope this helps -

Deb.
--
http://www.scientific-art.com

"He looked a fierce and quarrelsome cat, but claw he never would;
He only bit the ones he loved, because they tasted good." S. Greenfield

On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 08:45:24 -0400, (P. Cox)
wrote:

The results of Crackles biopsy has came back and he has cancer.

I'm really, truly sorry to hear this. Hoped with all my heart
Crackles would be OK.

I would be happy to contribute more to the vet bill if needed.
Please keep us updated.

Jeanne

On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 08:45:24 -0400, (P. Cox)
wrote:

The results of Crackles biopsy has came back and he has cancer.

I'm really, truly sorry to hear this. Hoped with all my heart
Crackles would be OK.

I would be happy to contribute more to the vet bill if needed.
Please keep us updated.

Jeanne

On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 08:45:24 -0400, (P. Cox)
wrote:

The results of Crackles biopsy has came back and he has cancer.

I'm really, truly sorry to hear this. Hoped with all my heart
Crackles would be OK.

I would be happy to contribute more to the vet bill if needed.
Please keep us updated.

Jeanne

Hugs & purrs for you, Crackles, and everyone involved.
I guess you must be heartsick over this, and feeling weary of the emotions.

Our chaplain at the cancer centre used to say that everyone's life is a
complete story, but only God knows how long each story will be.

Love to you,
KLC



P. Cox wrote:
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This is my 3rd sick cat in a year and a half
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Its too many cats in such a short time. p

Hugs & purrs for you, Crackles, and everyone involved.
I guess you must be heartsick over this, and feeling weary of the emotions.

Our chaplain at the cancer centre used to say that everyone's life is a
complete story, but only God knows how long each story will be.

Love to you,
KLC



P. Cox wrote:
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This is my 3rd sick cat in a year and a half
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Its too many cats in such a short time. p

Hugs & purrs for you, Crackles, and everyone involved.
I guess you must be heartsick over this, and feeling weary of the emotions.

Our chaplain at the cancer centre used to say that everyone's life is a
complete story, but only God knows how long each story will be.

Love to you,
KLC



P. Cox wrote:
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This is my 3rd sick cat in a year and a half
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Its too many cats in such a short time. p

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(P. Cox) wrote:


Ok I gotta stop writting now I am crying again.

I'm sooo sorry purrs for you and Crackles.
Suz
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In article ,
(P. Cox) wrote:


Ok I gotta stop writting now I am crying again.

I'm sooo sorry purrs for you and Crackles.
Suz
Macmoosette
Thank Heavens There's Only One
=^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^=



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