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"Phil P." wrote in message ... "Mary" wrote in message . com... Karen is right, Phil, at least according to my vet, whom I trust and who has had his practice for over 30 years. He said that "some cats just get it." Mary, that's what I meant by "genetically susceptible". I've been looking at little Cheeks and I don't know how I missed that she had definite Siamese or one of those wedge-headed "oriental" breeds in her, though she is a tabby in markings. (I read that although 1% of cats have asthma Siamese and other "oriental" breeds are over represented, and that LG correlates with other allergies.) She has huge eyes and a very tapered face, small muzzle. When she wakes me up in the morning by climbing up on me and peering into my face I am sometimes tempted to say "ET phone home!" |
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Phil P. wrote:
He may not agree with doing the RAST because its not as accurate as the patch test. I think I'd rather sterilize my home than put a cat though the patch test... buts that's just me. He's way sweet and compassionate with the animals, so he would probably acquiesce. And he will do what I want or I will go elsewhere. I did not rescue this little girl just to torture her. Hell, I don't go to the doctor like I should, primarily because 1. they tend to hurt me and 2. I'm too big for anyone to stuff me in a carrier and make me go! By the way--the granuloma(s) on Cheeky's nose literally shrank to nothing the third day after her shot--a big relief. That's why many people with allergic cats get confused because they think their cats' allergies are seasonal - especially in the colder months which is actually the opposite of the norm. Those of us with mold and dust instead of plant allergies know what winter does. I never had allergies until I lived in an overinsulated house. The grand old Victorian I rented had no apparent insulation and hardwoods. I could feel breezes coming up through the floors at shoulder level in the winter!! High heat bills, but excellent ventilation. I would also have her tested for heartworm disease because the symptoms of asthma are almost identical to the symptoms of heartworm disease in cats(e.g., coughing, dyspnea). Heartworm disease can result in sudden death. This was the first thing we did when she presented with the cough and wheeze. No heart worms, thank God. Shelters have to offer a "refund" or "exchange" because many people don't have a heart as big as yours. Some people would otherwise "dispose" of the cat - possibly cruelly. We've had people come back almost a year later because their cat got sick! I gladly give them a refund just to get the cat away from them! No "exchanges" or future adoptions for them! If you could see Cheeky's little face, it doesn't take much of a heart to want to have that around! I fell in love from a photo on the web, then somehow, in a room full of mostly tabbys, ceiling to floor, only hers emerged from the pack. When I petted her head she leaned into it and closed her eyes and that was the end of that! Some things were meant to be. As for people who treat cats as objects or are otherwise cruel, I cannot stand to think about it. I'm glad you encourage idiots to return the cats to your safe hands. They probably lose money on most adoptions... I know we did until we got our hematology system and serum chemistry analyzers. Most people don't realize the costs and think we make money on adoptions.... I wish. I don't know of any shelter that's in the black... If they are, I'd be real suspicious! Tell you this--if my ship ever comes in, there will be some happy shelters in my area. Thank you for your time and input, Phil. I hope it helped. Surely did! |
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Phil P. wrote:
He may not agree with doing the RAST because its not as accurate as the patch test. I think I'd rather sterilize my home than put a cat though the patch test... buts that's just me. He's way sweet and compassionate with the animals, so he would probably acquiesce. And he will do what I want or I will go elsewhere. I did not rescue this little girl just to torture her. Hell, I don't go to the doctor like I should, primarily because 1. they tend to hurt me and 2. I'm too big for anyone to stuff me in a carrier and make me go! By the way--the granuloma(s) on Cheeky's nose literally shrank to nothing the third day after her shot--a big relief. That's why many people with allergic cats get confused because they think their cats' allergies are seasonal - especially in the colder months which is actually the opposite of the norm. Those of us with mold and dust instead of plant allergies know what winter does. I never had allergies until I lived in an overinsulated house. The grand old Victorian I rented had no apparent insulation and hardwoods. I could feel breezes coming up through the floors at shoulder level in the winter!! High heat bills, but excellent ventilation. I would also have her tested for heartworm disease because the symptoms of asthma are almost identical to the symptoms of heartworm disease in cats(e.g., coughing, dyspnea). Heartworm disease can result in sudden death. This was the first thing we did when she presented with the cough and wheeze. No heart worms, thank God. Shelters have to offer a "refund" or "exchange" because many people don't have a heart as big as yours. Some people would otherwise "dispose" of the cat - possibly cruelly. We've had people come back almost a year later because their cat got sick! I gladly give them a refund just to get the cat away from them! No "exchanges" or future adoptions for them! If you could see Cheeky's little face, it doesn't take much of a heart to want to have that around! I fell in love from a photo on the web, then somehow, in a room full of mostly tabbys, ceiling to floor, only hers emerged from the pack. When I petted her head she leaned into it and closed her eyes and that was the end of that! Some things were meant to be. As for people who treat cats as objects or are otherwise cruel, I cannot stand to think about it. I'm glad you encourage idiots to return the cats to your safe hands. They probably lose money on most adoptions... I know we did until we got our hematology system and serum chemistry analyzers. Most people don't realize the costs and think we make money on adoptions.... I wish. I don't know of any shelter that's in the black... If they are, I'd be real suspicious! Tell you this--if my ship ever comes in, there will be some happy shelters in my area. Thank you for your time and input, Phil. I hope it helped. Surely did! |
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I have opened up my mind to not just treating animals' symptoms with
antibiotics and steroids, but rather to have the whole animal treated and to prevent disease in a holistic way. Kum-by-ya...........la la la la la......la la la la..... You just can't believe that my animals did poorly on your beloved Science Diet. But in fact and in truth, they did do poorly. Now I would be a liar if I said they did great on Science Diet. But they did poorly on Science Diet. Lauren, here you are AGAIN TAKING ANOTHER POT SHOT AT SCIENCE DIET!! LOL!!!! You are seriously a whack job. Your Hill's bashing has nothing to do w/ anything in this thread, yet here you bring it up AGAIN! You have no credibility left! I can just see you in "real life" constantly muttering throughout the day to anyone who'll listen to you that Science Diet is bad, and evil, and horrible, etc.........I bet the people at the bank or the grocery store run when they see you coming because they don't want to have to listen to your crazy stories repeated over and over again! As to you being in my killfile, I just upgraded to XP and that's why you're not killfiled, but believe you will be again Please tell us when you figure out how to use it because I'll wager that you never put Phil in your killfile. You like taking the abuse from him for some reason. BTW, if you killfiled him before, why are you responding to him? You're starting to sound just like Liz! I think you just like the attention and the only way to get it is to act the way that you are. |
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I have opened up my mind to not just treating animals' symptoms with
antibiotics and steroids, but rather to have the whole animal treated and to prevent disease in a holistic way. Kum-by-ya...........la la la la la......la la la la..... You just can't believe that my animals did poorly on your beloved Science Diet. But in fact and in truth, they did do poorly. Now I would be a liar if I said they did great on Science Diet. But they did poorly on Science Diet. Lauren, here you are AGAIN TAKING ANOTHER POT SHOT AT SCIENCE DIET!! LOL!!!! You are seriously a whack job. Your Hill's bashing has nothing to do w/ anything in this thread, yet here you bring it up AGAIN! You have no credibility left! I can just see you in "real life" constantly muttering throughout the day to anyone who'll listen to you that Science Diet is bad, and evil, and horrible, etc.........I bet the people at the bank or the grocery store run when they see you coming because they don't want to have to listen to your crazy stories repeated over and over again! As to you being in my killfile, I just upgraded to XP and that's why you're not killfiled, but believe you will be again Please tell us when you figure out how to use it because I'll wager that you never put Phil in your killfile. You like taking the abuse from him for some reason. BTW, if you killfiled him before, why are you responding to him? You're starting to sound just like Liz! I think you just like the attention and the only way to get it is to act the way that you are. |
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PawsForThought wrote: From: "Phil P." Thanks, Karen. Dr. Hamilton is a highly respected veterinarian, Homeopaths are *not* "highly respected veterinarians" by the mainstream veterinary community... In fact, many if not most mainstream vets think homeos are quacks. More importantly, many mainstream vets feel homeos are *dangerous* because they deny or delay *real* veterinary care in the early stages of disease when *real* veterinary care has the greatest chance of effecting a cure. One of our vets was an emergency and critical care specialist for 14 years. Many homeo-treated animals ended up in his hospital, most died, because their owners relied on homeos' "naturel remedies" and their other voodoo and magical concoctions and magic wand waving when simple and timely *real* veterinary care would have saved the animals' lives. They rushed their animals to the emergency clinic when they finally realized the homeo was quack and their animal was dying... Unfortunately, it was usually too late. And on the other hand, there are many alternative veterinarians who have saved the lives of many pets who couldn't be saved with allopathic medicine. Homeopathic medicine has helped many of them. snip There are also many "mainstream" vets that screw cats up so badly they have to be rushed to the ER, or just plain kill them. I don't think "mainstream" or "homeopathic" one way or another equals superior care. In my mind, and in the mind of many of both kinds of vets in my area, they are complimentary. Any *good* vet should know when they are beyond their level of competence and refer a patient on. If they don't they shouldn't practive medicine, no matter what kind of vet they are. I don't know where Phil lives, but if that's the attitude of the vets there, I wouldn't want to go see them - as I wouldn't want to see a human doctor with that kind of closed-minded attitude. But that's JMO. K |
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