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Hopitus wrote:
when my male cats got blocked (long time ago, in 80's and 90's) vets in s.FL did some kinda surgery that (not to get obscene here) actually "made him a girl" and forever made blockage extremely unlikely....former boycats peed like girls after the whole thing (I personally never understood what this surgery consisted of, just happy cats' lives were saved). Did - for all that $ - vet "make him a girl" urinary-wise? No. The procedure is called perineal urethrostomy and is simply removal of the penis in order to make the urethral opening wider, which in turn helps to prevent blockages from happening. This surgery should be considered only as an absolute last resort as there are many other problems including recurring infection that can result from the surgery. Doing things like increasing water intake by completely eliminating dry food and feeding only high quality canned food, eliminating free-feeding (which happens when you feed canned anyway,) watching magnesium content and monitoring urine ph are very helpful in preventing reocurrences. In other words, despite the surgery, your cats were still "all man." ;-) Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray |
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Heh...no, they didn't swish....all I could ever figure out was somehow the
vet way shortened the urethra path. "Mary" wrote in message ... "Hopitus" wrote in message ... Hey, I'm not getting into the food arguments....but I'm curious about something: when my male cats got blocked (long time ago, in 80's and 90's) vets in s.FL did some kinda surgery that (not to get obscene here) actually "made him a girl" and forever made blockage extremely unlikely....former boycats peed like girls after the whole thing (I personally never understood what this surgery consisted of, just happy cats' lives were saved). Did - for all that $ - vet "make him a girl" urinary-wise? I have heard of a procedure like this, but don't know the details! Did he begin to swish when he walked? "Mary" wrote in message ... "animzmirot" wrote in message ... Got our kitty back from the vet this morning. $1129.14 poorer, I might add. He was in the vets for 3 nights, Highlights of the bill were hospitalization charges including "biowaste management" ($3.99 ea) at $122.40 per night, $120 for a CBC and chemistries, $114 for 1/2 hour anesthesia, $122 for the urinary obstruction, and $102 for the saline IV. They did give us a 10 lb bag of C/D food complementary. Big whoop! The cat feels a lot better and is in his 'room' sleeping (the linen closet is known as his room), and he did spend some time on the screened porch looking at the birds, etc.. But he is still woozy and fell off the porch railing and our dining room sideboard. I'm glad he's home, but his new name is "sofa", which is just about what this ordeal cost. Marjorie You're a fabulous cat slave. You certainly saved his life, and of course you know that he will bring you more joy and comfort than the most expensive couch. Good on you. |
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23 cats? That's the archetype of the ideal
woman! Why thank you! However, you'll have to pardon Mary's stupidity as she has no clue about my situation but posts what she thinks she knows anyway, despite the fact that she's wrong. I'vebeen posted very recently for the umpteenth time that I am the proud slave to 25 cats, one of which I adopted just a few months ago from someone on this very NG. In fact, he recently posted about his visit to my home in the "visiting Henry" thread and was quite complimentary (which belies Mary's ignorant and libelous claims that I am a "collector.") Feel free to peruse my photo album if you need a major cat fix. :-) Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray |
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On Sat, 14 May 2005 17:35:09 -0500, wrote:
23 cats? That's the archetype of the ideal woman! Why thank you! However, you'll have to pardon Mary's stupidity as she has no clue about my situation but posts what she thinks she knows anyway, despite the fact that she's wrong. I'vebeen posted very recently for the umpteenth time that I am the proud slave to 25 cats, one of which I adopted just a few months ago from someone on this very NG. In fact, he recently posted about his visit to my home in the "visiting Henry" thread and was quite complimentary (which belies Mary's ignorant and libelous claims that I am a "collector.") Feel free to peruse my photo album if you need a major cat fix. :-) Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray http://www.catster.com/pet_page.php?j=t&i=140147 This is my Cinder's website. What should I do about the tomcat? Read latest diary entry. |
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"John Ross Mc Master" wrote in message The cause of the blockage is the cat's body's inabilty to handle ash (magnesium and the like) in food. There is no 'ash' in cat food- 'ash' is an analysis of the mineral content- not an ingredient- that's why its listed in the Guaranteed Analysis and not in the ingredients list. "Ash" is determined by burning an aliquot of the diet for 2 hours at 600*C and weighing the residue. "Ash" is actually all the noncombustible components of the diet- which includes most of the mineral content- without regard to any specific element. The 'ash' analysis does not correlate to the magnesium content of the diet. Also, struvite is a function of urine pH not magnesium. At urine pH of 6.1 or less struvite won't form regardless of the amount of magnesium in the diet. Magnesium content becomes important only when urine pH rises above 6.2. Urine pH determines *if* struvite will form; the magnesium content determines *how much* struvite will form. Phil |
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"animzmirot" wrote in message ... Got our kitty back from the vet this morning. $1129.14 poorer, I might add. He was in the vets for 3 nights, Highlights of the bill were hospitalization charges including "biowaste management" ($3.99 ea) at $122.40 per night, $120 for a CBC and chemistries, $114 for 1/2 hour anesthesia, $122 for the urinary obstruction, and $102 for the saline IV. They did give us a 10 lb bag of C/D food complementary. Big whoop! You might want to speak to your vet about the canned version of c/d. Dry c/d is less efficacious than canned c/d. The benefits of canned c/d are increased water intake and water turnover- which results in the dilution of noxious substances in urine; more frequent urination which- decreases bladder contact time with urine, and eliminates crystal particles before they aggregate or accrete into larger and larger crystals and uroliths/plugs that can obstruct the urethra. Phil .. |
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"Hopitus" wrote in message ... Hey, I'm not getting into the food arguments....but I'm curious about something: when my male cats got blocked (long time ago, in 80's and 90's) vets in s.FL did some kinda surgery that (not to get obscene here) actually "made him a girl" and forever made blockage extremely unlikely....former boycats peed like girls after the whole thing (I personally never understood what this surgery consisted of, The procedure is called 'perineal urethrotomy'. It goes something like this: While the cat is under anesthesia, the penis, scrotum, and testicles (if the cat hasn'tt been neutered), are dissected free. The scrotal skin and prepuce are removed to free and expose the penis. The muscles that hold the penis to the pelvic bones are cut, allowing the penis to be pulled outside of the body more than usual. The penis is split along the urethra until the widest part of the urethra is opened. Then, the opened urethra is delicately sutured to the skin, part of the penis removed, and all skin edges closed. Done right, the cat is now something of an anatomical female with a wide urethral opening too big to become obstructed again. I've watched this surgery a couple of times- and still get the chills thinking about it! Actually, it sounds worse to us than it actually is for the cat. PU should be performed only as a last resort. Phil |
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in article , Hopitus at
wrote on 5/14/05 4:13 PM: Hey, I'm not getting into the food arguments....but I'm curious about something: when my male cats got blocked (long time ago, in 80's and 90's) vets in s.FL did some kinda surgery that (not to get obscene here) actually "made him a girl" and forever made blockage extremely unlikely....former boycats peed like girls after the whole thing (I personally never understood what this surgery consisted of, just happy cats' lives were saved). Did - for all that $ - vet "make him a girl" urinary-wise? For some cats, this is the only way to keep them from blocking again. It is very successful. Don't remember the technical term but it is a PU. And yes, basically it does give them a wider "girl like" passage. That is the problem boys have. the uretha is so narrow blockage is a real problem. |
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On Sat, 14 May 2005 18:55:33 -0400, "Phil P."
wrote: "John Ross Mc Master" wrote in message The cause of the blockage is the cat's body's inabilty to handle ash (magnesium and the like) in food. There is no 'ash' in cat food- 'ash' is an analysis of the mineral content- not an ingredient- that's why its listed in the Guaranteed Analysis and not in the ingredients list. "Ash" is determined by burning an aliquot of the diet for 2 hours at 600*C and weighing the residue. "Ash" is actually all the noncombustible components of the diet- which includes most of the mineral content- without regard to any specific element. The 'ash' analysis does not correlate to the magnesium content of the diet. Also, struvite is a function of urine pH not magnesium. At urine pH of 6.1 or less struvite won't form regardless of the amount of magnesium in the diet. Magnesium content becomes important only when urine pH rises above 6.2. Urine pH determines *if* struvite will form; the magnesium content determines *how much* struvite will form. Phil My vet once told me to get low ash magnesium restricted cat food for a male cat who had a urinary tract blockage operation. I think I'll trust the vet and not you. |
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