[OT] Cruxshadows?

Anyone heard of the goth/ebm/darkwave band _The Cruxshadows_?
(http://www.cruxshadows.com)

If you have (and assuming you like htem) how did you find out about them?

I only recently discovered them, through Joel ironically. He was reading a
Military sci/fi book by John Ringo. Ringo often references music in his
books, occasionally reccommending particular tracks to be played whilst
reading certain passages. In this particular book, The Cruxshadow's
_Winterborn_ was the song. Joel looked it up on YouTube, showed me, and I
was totally hooked from that moment on.

I was surprised at the "goth" thing - having gone from a bit of an explore
on YouTube, I like alot of "Goth" stuff. Which I think is pretty funny,
because I am such a *not* goth person and wold have never identified myself
as in any way into the goth lifestyle. I mean, I'm a middle aged suburban
wife & mother, not exactly prime Goth material :-)

But wotking my way back to 'classic Goth' or even pre-goth music, I have
always liked the darker electronic stuff (like Depeche Mode, Duran Duran,
early Pseudo Echo, Real Life etc etc) and Goth evolved out of that.

So, here I am, an early 39 year old woman, suddenly discovering an entire
genre of music that I have always liked but never had a name for: its called
'darkwave', of which alot of "goth" music fits into. How about that.

Yowie

Yowie wrote:

Anyone heard of the goth/ebm/darkwave band _The Cruxshadows_?
(http://www.cruxshadows.com)

If you have (and assuming you like htem) how did you find out about them?

I only recently discovered them, through Joel ironically. He was reading a
Military sci/fi book by John Ringo. Ringo often references music in his
books, occasionally reccommending particular tracks to be played whilst
reading certain passages. In this particular book, The Cruxshadow's
_Winterborn_ was the song. Joel looked it up on YouTube, showed me, and I
was totally hooked from that moment on.

I was surprised at the "goth" thing - having gone from a bit of an explore
on YouTube, I like alot of "Goth" stuff. Which I think is pretty funny,
because I am such a *not* goth person and wold have never identified myself
as in any way into the goth lifestyle. I mean, I'm a middle aged suburban
wife & mother, not exactly prime Goth material :-)

But wotking my way back to 'classic Goth' or even pre-goth music, I have
always liked the darker electronic stuff (like Depeche Mode, Duran Duran,
early Pseudo Echo, Real Life etc etc) and Goth evolved out of that.

So, here I am, an early 39 year old woman, suddenly discovering an entire
genre of music that I have always liked but never had a name for: its called
'darkwave', of which alot of "goth" music fits into. How about that.

I've never heard of that band, but this an interesting story. And it's
always exciting to discover a new genre of music that you like.

I'm not even sure what defines "goth" exactly. I know women and teenage
girls who identify that way wear a lot of black, and lacy stuff, and
lots of jewelry, etc. I could identify a goth look. But a real sense
of what the music is has always eluded me. For example, a lot of people
say that Dead Can Dance is goth, but why? I don't even consider their
stuff to be rock music, it's too acoustic. Isn't goth a style of rock?
Or does it have more to do with the lyrical content, ie, if the song
is about death, about glorifying or reveling in death, then it's goth?

I never thought of Duran Duran as dark, though. They seem relentlessly
bright and poppish to me. I do like them a lot, though.

How about the Smiths? They'd probably fit in the darkwave category.

Oh, what's "ebm" style music? Never heard that term.

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Joyce

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On May 19, 5:07 pm, wrote:

Oh, what's "ebm" style music? Never heard that term.

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Joyce

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Dunno, but with a young baby, "ebm" to me means "expressed breast
milk" so the thought of ebm music gave me quite a giggle!

Tish

Tish wrote:

On May 19, 5:07 pm, wrote:

Oh, what's "ebm" style music? Never heard that term.

Dunno, but with a young baby, "ebm" to me means "expressed breast
milk" so the thought of ebm music gave me quite a giggle!

LOL.

In San Francisco there's a punk band called "Placenta", which consists
entirely of mothers. So being moms is part of their shtik, but it really
is punk rock, not just a gimmick. Maybe they're an example of ebm music?

--
Joyce

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I had never heard of this band but I like a lot of goth and other
"Dark" stuff, so I went to look them up on youtube and...

OMFG this song is awesome. You have a convert!

Is there anything else I should be checking out? any other songs with
lyrics/music like this? I enjoy Modern Talking and Blue System,
though I wouldn't necessarily call them "Goth", the sound reminds me
of them. I also think about Inkubus Sukkubus which is a great goth
band (many of its songs are religious to Wiccans/Pagans, though if
you're willing to accept them as mythology, that's fine too--but I
wouldn't recommend them to those who, for religious reasons, do not
want to listen to the songs of another faith.)

I would say that a large part of "goth" is being willing to explore a
large range of emotions, including "darker" emotions like grief,
anger, self-sacrifice, fear, and pain. A lot of pop music is either
chipper-upbeat with silly lyrics, or else lamenting (sometimes
whining) about relationships ending. Goth, as a philosophy, holds the
"shadow" aspects of human existence as equal with the light, not
something to be ashamed of, afraid of, or avoided.

--Fil





In San Francisco there's a punk band called "Placenta", which consists
entirely of mothers. So being moms is part of their shtik, but it really
is punk rock, not just a gimmick. Maybe they're an example of ebm music?

Tish wrote:
On May 19, 5:07 pm, wrote:

Oh, what's "ebm" style music? Never heard that term.

--
Joyce

To email me, remove the triple-X from my user name. ^..^

Dunno, but with a young baby, "ebm" to me means "expressed breast
milk" so the thought of ebm music gave me quite a giggle!

'ebm' stands for 'Electronic Body Music' (dumb name) but its a softer, more
rhytmic style of Industrial music, more for dancing to than moshing.

Yowie