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Cat Using toilet and toilet paper
"Yowie" wrote in message ... "MLB" wrote in message Yowie wrote: "jmcquown" wrote in message OMG http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQbHS4YJOMc&NR=1 Amazing! BTW - there was a aweful lot of water in that pan. Is that normal? Yowie When ou said "pan" did you mean the toilet? If so, the answer is yes. MLB Pan= where the business goes. Bowl= the ceramic part Cistern= the water storage & delivery system Toilet= the whole structure There's only a small amount of water, right down the bottom of our toilets. Maybe less risk of splashback? That's what UK toilets are like. You should see the German ones. They have a bend that catches what you do before you can flush it away, presumably so you can examine it for illness or something. I was very startled by this when I was in Germany. I'm used to the same as Yowie. Tweed |
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Human Litterboxes (was Cat Using toilet and toilet paper)
MatSav kirjoitti:
Cheryl wrote: Some European homes I've been in had the toilet and bathtub in different rooms, which was rather odd to my eyes! My home is like that, but the rooms are immediately adjacent to each other. How else would you wash your hands after using the "smallest room"? (It does mean, of course, that door handles need more cleaning than they would if the toilet and tub / shower were in the same room). Our apartment has a separate loo (toilet seat and wash basin) and bathroom (shower and another wash basin), so the hands can be washed in the loo. But the rooms are wall to wall, no door inbetween them. Their individual doors lead out into the apartment. -- Christine in Finland christal63 (at) gmail (dot) com |
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"Marina" wrote in message ... MatSav wrote: The USofA seem to use bowls with a higher water level in the pan than those in the UK. In much of Europe, there's a 'shelf' on the front inside edge of the bowl where business is deposited (for inspection?) before flushing, and not straight into the standing water of the S-(or U-)bend vapour trap. Hmm. I don't remember seeing this shelf in Germany or any other European country that I've visited. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention. :P I can assure that it's true. I thought it might be because N lived right out in the wilds and they might have peculiar toilet habits ;-) But no. we went to Hamburg and the toilets were the same. A shelf to collect what you did so you can look at it before you flush it away. Now for a Brit, this is odd. We do ours straight into the water in the toilet and then flush it away. Tweed What has struck me about plumbing in other parst of Europe is that the water pressure seems to be so much lower than here in Finland. Here, you just have to stand under the shower half a minute to be soaked, but you don't have to go further than Denmark, and the water pressure is so low you stand there and the water dribbles and dribbles and you never get completely wet. Afraid I've had the same experience in England. -- Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. |
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Cat Using toilet and toilet paper
"Yowie" wrote in message Pan= where the business goes. Bowl= the ceramic part Cistern= the water storage & delivery system Toilet= the whole structure There's only a small amount of water, right down the bottom of our toilets. Maybe less risk of splashback? Yowie What you call the pan and the bowl we just call the bowl in the US. Cistern = tank. Toilet=toilet or w/c for water closet if you are into construction Most (not all) toilet bowls in the US held quite a bit of water over the last fifty or so years. I remember the older ones in old houses like my grandparents did not. They didn't have a great reliable water supply or septic system. Splashback is not a problem. Takes lots of water to flush, but does a clean and reliable job. Now we are trying to cut back on excessive water use, and new toilets have to meet guidelines. Took a while since there just aren't all that many bowl manufacturers. And the low water toilets just didn't work as well. But design has improved, I'd say the toilets in my daughters house use half as much water as ours and work well. Jo |
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"Jack Campin - bogus address" wrote in message ... Some European homes I've been in had the toilet and bathtub in different rooms, which was rather odd to my eyes! Not just Europe - that was the usual arrangement in New Zealand when I was there. I'm not sure where the idea came from, but it fitted in with Maori tradition, which regarded the idea of washing and excreting in the same place as utterly disgusting. It makes a huge amount of sense to me. If you have a large family and only one toilet, taking a nice long bath becomes a problem. I figure the only reason the toilet and tub ended up in the same room once people started getting indoor plumbing was to save on the cost of plumbing. Jo |
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Human Litterboxes (was Cat Using toilet and toilet paper)
"Marina" wrote in message ... MatSav wrote: The USofA seem to use bowls with a higher water level in the pan than those in the UK. In much of Europe, there's a 'shelf' on the front inside edge of the bowl where business is deposited (for inspection?) before flushing, and not straight into the standing water of the S-(or U-)bend vapour trap. Hmm. I don't remember seeing this shelf in Germany or any other European country that I've visited. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention. :P What has struck me about plumbing in other parst of Europe is that the water pressure seems to be so much lower than here in Finland. Here, you just have to stand under the shower half a minute to be soaked, but you don't have to go further than Denmark, and the water pressure is so low you stand there and the water dribbles and dribbles and you never get completely wet. Afraid I've had the same experience in England. If you normally live with low water pressure, one of the great joys of traveling isn't the possibility of new sights and nice accommodations, but of finding a really great shower with a good shower head and lots of water pressure. (Well that and being able to toss the wet towels on the floor and having them replaced with clean dry ones while you are at lunch) I think if Charlie had to choose, he'd take a great shower over a great restaurant. Jo |
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"Christine BA" wrote in message ... Marina kirjoitti: MatSav wrote: The USofA seem to use bowls with a higher water level in the pan than those in the UK. In much of Europe, there's a 'shelf' on the front inside edge of the bowl where business is deposited (for inspection?) before flushing, and not straight into the standing water of the S-(or U-)bend vapour trap. Hmm. I don't remember seeing this shelf in Germany or any other European country that I've visited. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention. :P What has struck me about plumbing in other parst of Europe is that the water pressure seems to be so much lower than here in Finland. Here, you just have to stand under the shower half a minute to be soaked, but you don't have to go further than Denmark, and the water pressure is so low you stand there and the water dribbles and dribbles and you never get completely wet. Afraid I've had the same experience in England. Just checked from the German Wiki on toilets, the shelf version (Flachspüler) was more common before the 90's. And as I graduated in -82, and bro studied in Augsburg in the 80's too, we still remember the shelf version vividly. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilette -- That's all in German. My German is not good. The words I've learned are mainly relating to animals and nature which N & I like to discuss. I know eigel, hedgehog, ameisen, ant, huehn, hen stuff like that. When I'm at Hamburg airport being searched for drugs that's not so useful..especially if the woman who eats children for breakfast claims to speak no English while she's searching me. N says that is absolutely not true - no one employed there cannot speak English. she chose not to. I'd just got past the barrier where N could not follow to protect me from my lack of Germanspeak. Now if I'd realised that this German woman had deliberately pretended to not speak English when she could I might have mentioned we won the war. Normally I would not dream of mentioning it. Tweed |
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Christina Websell kirjoitti:
"Christine BA" wrote in message ... Marina kirjoitti: MatSav wrote: The USofA seem to use bowls with a higher water level in the pan than those in the UK. In much of Europe, there's a 'shelf' on the front inside edge of the bowl where business is deposited (for inspection?) before flushing, and not straight into the standing water of the S-(or U-)bend vapour trap. Hmm. I don't remember seeing this shelf in Germany or any other European country that I've visited. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention. :P What has struck me about plumbing in other parst of Europe is that the water pressure seems to be so much lower than here in Finland. Here, you just have to stand under the shower half a minute to be soaked, but you don't have to go further than Denmark, and the water pressure is so low you stand there and the water dribbles and dribbles and you never get completely wet. Afraid I've had the same experience in England. Just checked from the German Wiki on toilets, the shelf version (Flachspüler) was more common before the 90's. And as I graduated in -82, and bro studied in Augsburg in the 80's too, we still remember the shelf version vividly. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilette -- That's all in German. My German is not good. The words I've learned are mainly relating to animals and nature which N & I like to discuss. I know eigel, hedgehog, ameisen, ant, huehn, hen stuff like that. When I'm at Hamburg airport being searched for drugs that's not so useful..especially if the woman who eats children for breakfast claims to speak no English while she's searching me. N says that is absolutely not true - no one employed there cannot speak English. she chose not to. I'd just got past the barrier where N could not follow to protect me from my lack of Germanspeak. Now if I'd realised that this German woman had deliberately pretended to not speak English when she could I might have mentioned we won the war. Normally I would not dream of mentioning it. Tweed Yes, it is in German. I did say I checked from the *German* wiki, and the URL does show the "de.wikipedia..." Basically, the part about the toilet with the shelf just describes the toilet and how it works, as well as says that this toilet version offers the possibility to take a stool sample, if needed. The biggest drawback was the strong development of odour, which is why public and private toilets have been switched to the "normal model" (Tiefspüler - "deep flushers"). -- Christine in Finland christal63 (at) gmail (dot) com |
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Yowie wrote:
Pan= where the business goes. Bowl= the ceramic part Hmm... in the only toilets I've seen, the bowl is where the business goes. I don't think we have anything like a "pan". Joyce -- Promise me you'll never wear pants that bind or tug or hurt, pants that have an opinion about how much you've just eaten. -- Anne Lamott |
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"Christina Websell" wrote in message ... "Christine BA" wrote in message ... Marina kirjoitti: MatSav wrote: The USofA seem to use bowls with a higher water level in the pan than those in the UK. In much of Europe, there's a 'shelf' on the front inside edge of the bowl where business is deposited (for inspection?) before flushing, and not straight into the standing water of the S-(or U-)bend vapour trap. Hmm. I don't remember seeing this shelf in Germany or any other European country that I've visited. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention. :P What has struck me about plumbing in other parst of Europe is that the water pressure seems to be so much lower than here in Finland. Here, you just have to stand under the shower half a minute to be soaked, but you don't have to go further than Denmark, and the water pressure is so low you stand there and the water dribbles and dribbles and you never get completely wet. Afraid I've had the same experience in England. Just checked from the German Wiki on toilets, the shelf version (Flachspüler) was more common before the 90's. And as I graduated in -82, and bro studied in Augsburg in the 80's too, we still remember the shelf version vividly. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilette -- That's all in German. My German is not good. The words I've learned are mainly relating to animals and nature which N & I like to discuss. I know eigel, hedgehog, ameisen, ant, huehn, hen stuff like that. When I'm at Hamburg airport being searched for drugs that's not so useful..especially if the woman who eats children for breakfast claims to speak no English while she's searching me. N says that is absolutely not true - no one employed there cannot speak English. she chose not to. I'd just got past the barrier where N could not follow to protect me from my lack of Germanspeak. Now if I'd realised that this German woman had deliberately pretended to not speak English when she could I might have mentioned we won the war. Normally I would not dream of mentioning it. I don't think I'd mention that to someone who still might have the option of searching me. Jo |
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