declaw or not to declaw?

i need to declaw my little mitzi because she is tearing up
the furniture but my sister says thats cruel

the vet says its fine and i believe him over my sister
because she is one of those peta nuts who puts the welfare of
animals over that of people

annie

Annie wrote in news:Xns9A7070BCBD56D1234567@
194.177.98.144:

i need to declaw my little mitzi because she is tearing up
the furniture but my sister says thats cruel

the vet says its fine and i believe him over my sister
because she is one of those peta nuts who puts the welfare of
animals over that of people

annie


Thank you for sharing

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Annie wrote in
news:Xns9A7070BCBD56D1234567@
194.177.98.144:

i need to declaw my little mitzi because she is tearing up
the furniture but my sister says thats cruel

the vet says its fine and i believe him over my sister
because she is one of those peta nuts who puts the welfare of
animals over that of people

annie


Thank you for sharing

LOL, this troll isn't even subtle about it.

Pam S

On 29 Mar 2008 20:05:05 +0100, Annie
wrote:

i need to declaw my little mitzi because she is tearing up
the furniture but my sister says thats cruel

the vet says its fine and i believe him over my sister
because she is one of those peta nuts who puts the welfare of
animals over that of people

You can't possibly be serious... but just in case you are just
uninformed - declawing: DON'T DO IT! If you can't look after the cat
and you can't cope with its normal catly behaviour, give it to
somebody else who can (sounds like your sister would be a good
candidate.) Our cats have all their claws and they have never wilfully
destroyed any piece of furniture in our apartment because they have
plenty of legitimate places to scratch.

Annie kirjoitti:
i need to declaw my little mitzi because she is tearing up
the furniture but my sister says thats cruel

the vet says its fine and i believe him over my sister
because she is one of those peta nuts who puts the welfare of
animals over that of people

annie

You're probably just a troll, but just in case you're ignorant about it,
here goes... Have you ever thought what is actually done when a cat is
declawed?? It has its toes amputated at the first joint of the toe.
Imagine having your own fingers cut off at the joint right after the nail.

Here's some extensive information on declawing and why not to do it:
http://amby.com/cat_site/declaw.html

Before getting a cat, you should have gathered information about its
natural behaviour and how to deal with it humanely - such as providing
it with legitimate scratching surfaces, scratching poles and the like.
Or maybe you belong to those people who get pets and treat them as toys
and not like living beings. When you get bored with it or it "gets
broken" you throw it away...

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"Christine K." wrote in
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Annie kirjoitti:
i need to declaw my little mitzi because she is tearing up
the furniture but my sister says thats cruel

the vet says its fine and i believe him over my sister
because she is one of those peta nuts who puts the welfare
of
animals over that of people

annie

You're probably just a troll, but just in case you're
ignorant about
it, here goes... Have you ever thought what is actually
done when a
cat is declawed?? It has its toes amputated at the first
joint of the
toe. Imagine having your own fingers cut off at the joint
right after
the nail.

Here's some extensive information on declawing and why not
to do it:
http://amby.com/cat_site/declaw.html

Before getting a cat, you should have gathered information
about its
natural behaviour and how to deal with it humanely - such
as providing
it with legitimate scratching surfaces, scratching poles
and the like.
Or maybe you belong to those people who get pets and treat
them as
toys and not like living beings. When you get bored with it
or it
"gets broken" you throw it away...


i appreciate the link but i dont appreciate the name-calling
and the personal attacks from you and from other people

my vet said declawing should be the last resort and i have
tried everything else so it is the last resort

i love mitzi and im not going to give her away when i can
keep her if i just have a procedure done that is no worse
than when i had her spayed

Annie wrote:

i appreciate the link but i dont appreciate the name-calling
and the personal attacks from you and from other people

my vet said declawing should be the last resort and i have
tried everything else so it is the last resort

What have you tried? (Seriously, I want to know. There may be some
things you haven't tried yet.)

Joyce

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Annie wrote:

i appreciate the link but i dont appreciate the name-
calling
and the personal attacks from you and from other people

my vet said declawing should be the last resort and i
have
tried everything else so it is the last resort

What have you tried? (Seriously, I want to know. There may
be some
things you haven't tried yet.)

Joyce


ive covered up the furniture and put out a scratching post
and a flat board with carpet on it

i tried catching mitzi scratching the furniture and moving
her to the cat post or the board and encouraging her to use
it

when that didnt work i tried yelling no and then moving her
when that didnt work i tried a squirt gun
when that didnt work i tried clipping her nails short

i understand she has to scratch but i cant seem to train her
to scratch in a safe place

ive really tried hard to avoid declawing her but it seems
that mitzi is very stubborn

"Annie" wrote in message
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wrote in news:47eeab6f$0$36393
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Annie wrote:

i appreciate the link but i dont appreciate the name-
calling
and the personal attacks from you and from other people

my vet said declawing should be the last resort and i
have
tried everything else so it is the last resort

What have you tried? (Seriously, I want to know. There may
be some
things you haven't tried yet.)

Joyce


ive covered up the furniture and put out a scratching post
and a flat board with carpet on it

i tried catching mitzi scratching the furniture and moving
her to the cat post or the board and encouraging her to use
it

when that didnt work i tried yelling no and then moving her
when that didnt work i tried a squirt gun
when that didnt work i tried clipping her nails short

i understand she has to scratch but i cant seem to train her
to scratch in a safe place

ive really tried hard to avoid declawing her but it seems
that mitzi is very stubborn

So what will be your 'last resort' solution if having Mitzi's toes amputated
doesn't solve your problem? That is a fair question and not meant to be
hostile.

Quite some years ago when declawing cats was still somewhat acceptable for
the mainstream, my sister had a very pretty Persian cat. It was tearing up
the furniture so they had it declawed. It came home from the vet and
proceeded to take a dump in the middle of the new comforter on their bed.

Next stop was the shelter, where hopefully it found a new home since it was
a beautiful cat. new home that now has to deal with nastier problems than
scratching the furniture.

Cats scratch. If you can't deal with that you do not love the cat as much
as you think you do.

And now I will shut up since the subject does stir up things here and draw
trolls, even if you aren't one. Just once in a while it doesn't hurt to set
the record straight.

BTW, I thought we all agreed that spay and neuter is good and declaw is bad
and didn't need discussed. That neither was still up for debate. Anyone
opposed on those matters wasn't really welcome. Loophole for ethical
breeders like Lois who has such beautiful kittens.

Indoor/outdoor couldn't be agreed on nicely so we agreed to disagree
silently.

Jo

Annie wrote:

ive covered up the furniture and put out a scratching post
and a flat board with carpet on it

i tried catching mitzi scratching the furniture and moving
her to the cat post or the board and encouraging her to use
it

when that didnt work i tried yelling no and then moving her
when that didnt work i tried a squirt gun
when that didnt work i tried clipping her nails short

Have you tried SoftPaws, or something like it? These are coverings
that the vet would put onto her claws.

Check this out:
http://www.softpaws.com/

Also, there are sprays you can squirt onto furniture that smell bad
to a cat and would discourage them from visiting that area, but
wouldn't smell bad to a human. You might ask at a pet store or ask
your vet about that. I hear that cats don't like the smell of citrus,
so maybe a citrus spray would help?

Another thing that some people have tried is to put aluminum foil
onto places where they don't want their cat going, touching, scratching,
etc. Apparently, cats can't stand the feeling of it. I've mostly heard
this used to stop a cat from peeing on places they shouldn't, and I'm
sure it's much easier to put aluminum foil on a flat surface than on the
arms of a couch or chair, but you might give it a try. At the same time,
rub some catnip on her scratching post, and see if she gets used to using
that. You wouldn't have to keep the foil on your furniture forever, just
until she's "retrained" into using the scratching post.

Also, get her a couple more scratching posts, and put them right next
to the places on the furniture where she scratches. I have a scratching
post next to one arm of my couch where the cats used to scratch, and
they switched to the scratching post when I got them that. But they
still continued to scratch the *other* arm of the couch, when they were
on that end... too lazy to go over to their scratching post! So I got
a second scratching post and put it next to the other arm - voila, no
more scratching the couch. Maybe your cat needs one or two more
scratching posts to divert her attention?

Joyce

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