they're driving me nuts!

I wrote abt this before but, Moe & Rudy brothers - indoor cats &
fixed..there 3 yrs old and totally out of control..we got tham at the
age of 8 months from the SPCA they have never been in a home before
having been deserted on the road side as kittens and grew up in the
SPCA

of coarse they were litter trained but I had house train them too,
stay out of garbage, kitceh counters are off limits, as is the stove,
bathtub, and one counter in the living room..they learned quickly, had
to be reminded a few times

a year and 5 months ago my husband died huge change there for them and
they were so loving with me...then my daughter & granddaughter moved
in for what was supposed to be a one month stay turned into 4 months,
Moe loved my granddaughter who was 2 1/2 and Rudy hated
her...Mackenzie had trouble telling them apart they do look alike

now it's 5 months later its been just me again
Moe every night goes to my double door that lead to a balconey (they
aren't allwoed out there as they would jump down) goes nuts and
straches at the glass for 15 - 20 minutes! they won't stay out of the
cupboards..I don't want them in w/my cooking stuuf, pot &
pans..they're long hair and shed like
crazy

then go to the sliding doors in the bathtub and starch like crazy on
those that makes a loud rattling noise

they wack at all the closet doors...yes I let then get in one...I know
cats need their hiddie holes

and Moe goes around meowing all the time! they openly jump on the
kicthen counters with me around so far I have; tried a squirt gun,
coffee can w/stones and a sharp no, just plan yelling

now they have taken to stealing my winter stuff hats & mittins ...may
sound funny but I can't afford to replace them

they have many toys, I rotate them...a tall tiered climbing thing they
love espically since I moved it in the spare bedroom in front of the
window, I only have 4 windows in my place all put one have easy access
for them and one that can't use is in my bedroom

I got them a lower cimbing thingie has swing on it, holes they can pop
in out of

they get lots of love, lots of play..thier appetiete is good, they
look healthy, no prob in the kitty litter area

I know many here are agnst outdoors for cats but I thing these guys
need it, can't though its ground for eviction

they're big and when on their hind legs (they do that a lot too) they
reach 33 inches and weigh in at 16 lbs a piece..vet says they're
healthy

I think they need more space I live in a tiny 2 bdrm place, can't
afford to move then again what do they know abt space this is their
only home

Rudy has started something new hissing at ppl and I was one of them!
the kid next door wanted to meet them Thomas knows cats they have
2..he talked to Rudy first let him sniff him out, Rudy showed no signs
of getting angry Thomas was petting under his chin a fav spot then he
hissed and tried to take a swipe at him...then 10 minutes later he
came right to Thomas and was his buddy!

Rudy hissed at me once when I picked him cuz he was on my papers, I
was sweet tlaking him too...two other times he's taken a swipe at me!

whats with that? and Moe going around meowing all the time! they run
non-stop chasing each other and will do it for hours & knocking things
down, drives me nuts

feliway didn't help neither did rescue remedy...my daughters friend
says she'll take them both...Rose as large fenced in yard too

I don't know what to do anymore

I love them dearly but I need help..vets says they're just normal
active cats, that some cats are more active than others...what abt the
acting out? he says normal too....they're so loud at night I where ear
plugs...they're allowed in my bedroom when I sleep

when I go to bed a radio and a light is left on, same when I leave
the apartment....my late husband (hate that word late, why can't just
use died) thought 2 cats would be better since he was in and out of
the hosp. so much they'd have company when were gone...I'd only leave
for a night after that friends or family would take care of them put
that was awhile ago

ensoul

I want Carl Sagan to explain the sky to me.
~Whoopi Goldberg