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The things you come across on Usenet (cats)
"William Graham" wrote in message . .. "sheelagh" wrote in message oups.com... On 7 Jul, 13:36, Baldoni wrote: I would never let any of my cats wear a collar. http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/control-pet-cats/ Saying that the people in the UK are watched and spied upon by Govt agencies, who knows what is next. Camera's in trees ! -- Count Baldoni Yeah, Right!! Yes, I live in the Uk, & I have never heard such tripe in my entire life! Not in a million lifetimes would I agree with that or comply with it either. Less that 9 months ago, I had to trap a feral kitty who had a collar that was so small that it was covered by skin where it was growing over the collar... It was postulated, had a dreadful abscess that required draining & treating with antibiotics for a several weeks. Perhaps I should send them the vets report that described the incident as sheer luck that the animal didn't asphyxiate? I understand the reasons behind the proposal, but it just is not practical.. Vent over!! Sheelagh It is the responsibility, not the right, of good men to break bad laws. - Spencer Tracy in "Judgment at Nuremberg" It is hard for me to think of a law that would be better broken than a cat collar law, or a cat leash law. People who love unenforceable laws, and tax laws are called, "Liberals". "Liberalism is a mental disorder" Dr Michael Savage The Savage Nation |
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The things you come across on Usenet (cats)
"William Graham" wrote in message . .. "Baldoni @googlemail.com" baldoniXXVnil wrote in message ... Professor explained on 07/07/2007 : "Ivor Jones" wrote in message ... "Baldoni @googlemail.com" baldoniXXVnil wrote in message I would never let any of my cats wear a collar. http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/control-pet-cats/ Saying that the people in the UK are watched and spied upon by Govt agencies, who knows what is next. Camera's in trees ! What a load of crap. Cats are wild animals, here in the UK they have the right to roam where they please, long may it remain so. You never let us forget that you like having cats run over by cars. In British-ese they refer to guys like you as a bit "thick", right? Nobody likes having there cats run over by cars. The same as nobody likes having their dogs run over by cars. In some parts of the UK it is quite normal for sheep to roam along the side of the road and cross it. I picked a cat up last year that had been run over and the owner was in a lot of distress. I did not check to see if he had been castrated but that is a big help to stop them roaming. It is something that can be argued about all week but when cats decided they were going to hang out with humans I doubt they were hoping to be incarcerated. A lot of people would argue that it is cruel to keep them indoors all the time. -- Count Baldoni The residential speed limit here is 25 mph. If people obeyed it, the number of cats that are run down would drop to almost nothing. The reason most cats are run down by cars is because of teenage-minded people who drive their two ton SUV's at 40 mph plus in residential areas. The "me" generation will drive anywhere anyway anytime they please, a result of over 40 years of liberal left politically correct thinking in America. |
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"William Graham" wrote in message ... "Ivor Jones" wrote in message ... "Professor" wrote in message news:MrPji.102$CJ4.84@trndny08 "Ivor Jones" wrote in message ... "Baldoni @googlemail.com" baldoniXXVnil wrote in message I would never let any of my cats wear a collar. http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/control-pet-cats/ Saying that the people in the UK are watched and spied upon by Govt agencies, who knows what is next. Camera's in trees ! What a load of crap. Cats are wild animals, here in the UK they have the right to roam where they please, long may it remain so. You never let us forget that you like having cats run over by cars. In British-ese they refer to guys like you as a bit "thick", right? Who said I like cats run over by cars..? I've had cats all my life (I'm 52) and none of them have ever been run over, hit or otherwise injured as a result of being outdoors. It all depends where you live. What I *don't* like is keeping a naturally outdoor animal a prisoner. But we've had this "discussion" before. Ivor Yes. It is a peculiarly liberal position. (keeping cats locked up indoors to preserve their life) Liberals think that living a long life trumps everything else....They love what I call, "padded cell laws", that have the preservation of life their prime purpose. Motorcycle helmet laws are a prime example.....And seat belt laws, too. Their argument is that my life doesn't belong to me, but to the state.....They would like everything to, "belong to the state". I would like to grab them by the collar, and shake them and say, "Everybody, and everything dies sooner or later. Some of us just want to enjoy the few years we have here while we are still alive. Now, why don't you want to give us that right?" Liberal leftists worship the state, government, more government, and bigger government and higher taxes to support even more and bigger government. "Hello, I'm from the government, and I am here to help you." |
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"William Graham" wrote in message . .. "Baldoni @googlemail.com" baldoniXXVnil wrote in message ... I would never let any of my cats wear a collar. http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/control-pet-cats/ Saying that the people in the UK are watched and spied upon by Govt agencies, who knows what is next. Camera's in trees ! -- Count Baldoni Any country that has nothing better to do than catch cats to make sure they have collars with one or more regulation bells on them deserves to die a natural death and be taken over by some country whose management has better things to do....GB is no exception......... Think of all the employees on the government payroll that it takes to enforce such nonsense. Why do you think the elitist liberal Al Gore dreamed up the Junk Science of "Global Warming"? |
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"William Graham" wrote in message . .. "Baldoni @googlemail.com" baldoniXXVnil wrote in message ... on 07/07/2007, William Graham supposed : "Baldoni @googlemail.com" baldoniXXVnil wrote in message ... I would never let any of my cats wear a collar. http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/control-pet-cats/ Saying that the people in the UK are watched and spied upon by Govt agencies, who knows what is next. Camera's in trees ! -- Count Baldoni Any country that has nothing better to do than catch cats to make sure they have collars with one or more regulation bells on them deserves to die a natural death and be taken over by some country whose management has better things to do....GB is no exception......... I have always wished that Switzerland would invade but it ain't going to happen. The authorities are looking in peoples refuse bins to check there are no items that should be re-cycled in there. For all the camera's they can't police the streets properly never mind spy on cats doing their business in the vegetable plots and borders. Mark my words there will be some act or law within the European Courts that will give the cat its basic right to go to toilet in privacy. -- Count Baldoni Sounds like you guys are suffering from, "liberalmania". I know that we are suffering from it here, but our case hasn't progressed quite as far as yours......:^) I do keep a sharp eye on what happens over there so I'll know the prognosis of the disease...... George Sorros & Co. have a dream to turn America into the same secular liberal mess that Europe is in, a place where animals have more rights than a human being. |
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On 7 Jul, 13:36, Baldoni wrote:
I would never let any of my cats wear a collar. http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/control-pet-cats/ Saying that the people in the UK are watched and spied upon by Govt agencies, who knows what is next. Camera's in trees ! -- Count Baldoni what a load of ********! I too would never oput a collar on a cat, I think it is unnecessary and utterly inhumane to put something like that on any animal, trying to mark out another animal as something we 'own' when i believe that no animal onthis earth has to right to think it 'owns' any other, utterly despicable practise. it won't go through anyway, and the concept behind it woudl contradict the ruling that a cat 'owner' cannot be held responsible for the actions of said cat if it enters a neighbours property and/or damages that property as the cat is a semi-wild creature which cannot be controlled inthe same manner as a dog can. If this is accepted then the proposal that cats must wear collars on order for the owners to control their behaviour is absurd. for the reasons I ahve put above and those stated by sheelagh i abhor collars on cats and i will never put one on a cat who lives with me bookie |
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"Ivor Jones" wrote in message
... "Professor" wrote in message news:MrPji.102$CJ4.84@trndny08 "Ivor Jones" wrote in message ... "Baldoni @googlemail.com" baldoniXXVnil wrote in message I would never let any of my cats wear a collar. http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/control-pet-cats/ Saying that the people in the UK are watched and spied upon by Govt agencies, who knows what is next. Camera's in trees ! What a load of crap. Cats are wild animals, here in the UK they have the right to roam where they please, long may it remain so. You never let us forget that you like having cats run over by cars. In British-ese they refer to guys like you as a bit "thick", right? Who said I like cats run over by cars..? I've had cats all my life (I'm 52) and none of them have ever been run over, hit or otherwise injured as a result of being outdoors. It all depends where you live. What I *don't* like is keeping a naturally outdoor animal a prisoner. But we've had this "discussion" before. Ivor I.E. Yes, you are a bit thick. Thousands of cats are killed on England's motorways yearly, but you don't seem to give a toss. I can't fathom how keeping cats safe indoors is somehow against their better interests. Does dementia run in your family? |
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On 8 Jul, 03:26, "Professor" wrote:
"Ivor Jones" wrote in message ... "Professor" wrote in message news:MrPji.102$CJ4.84@trndny08 "Ivor Jones" wrote in message ... "Baldoni @googlemail.com" baldoniXXVnil wrote in o I would never let any of my cats wear a collar. http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/control-pet-cats/ Saying that the people in the UK are watched and spied upon by Govt agencies, who knows what is next. Camera's in trees ! What a load of crap. Cats are wild animals, here in the UK they have the right to roam where they please, long may it remain so. You never let us forget that you like having cats run over by cars. In British-ese they refer to guys like you as a bit "thick", right? Who said I like cats run over by cars..? I've had cats all my life (I'm 52) and none of them have ever been run over, hit or otherwise injured as a result of being outdoors. It all depends where you live. What I *don't* like is keeping a naturally outdoor animal a prisoner. But we've had this "discussion" before. Ivor I.E. Yes, you are a bit thick. Thousands of cats are killed on England's motorways yearly, but you don't seem to give a toss. I can't fathom how keeping cats safe indoors is somehow against their better interests. Does dementia run in your family?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - because keeping them captive indoors is against their nature you dumbo |
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On 7 Jul, 23:27, "William Graham" wrote:
"Baldoni @googlemail.com" baldoniXXVnil wrote in message ...I would never let any of my cats wear a collar. http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/control-pet-cats/ Saying that the people in the UK are watched and spied upon by Govt agencies, who knows what is next. Camera's in trees ! -- Count Baldoni Any country that has nothing better to do than catch cats to make sure they have collars with one or more regulation bells on them deserves to die a natural death and be taken over by some country whose management has better things to do....GB is no exception......... believe me, we the british public also think this is a pile of crap so it won't go through, you will probably find it is something to dow ith the EU forcing some sort of unenforceable and pointless ruling onto us, the EU is usually the cause of idiotic things like this |
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On 8 Jul, 02:48, bookie wrote:
On 7 Jul, 13:36, Baldoni wrote: I would never let any of my cats wear a collar. http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/control-pet-cats/ Saying that the people in the UK are watched and spied upon by Govt agencies, who knows what is next. Camera's in trees ! -- Count Baldoni what a load of ********! I too would never oput a collar on a cat, I think it is unnecessary and utterly inhumane to put something like that on any animal, trying to mark out another animal as something we 'own' when i believe that no animal onthis earth has to right to think it 'owns' any other, utterly despicable practise. it won't go through anyway, and the concept behind it woudl contradict the ruling that a cat 'owner' cannot be held responsible for the actions of said cat if it enters a neighbours property and/or damages that property as the cat is a semi-wild creature which cannot be controlled inthe same manner as a dog can. If this is accepted then the proposal that cats must wear collars on order for the owners to control their behaviour is absurd. for the reasons I ahve put above and those stated by sheelagh i abhor collars on cats and i will never put one on a cat who lives with me bookie Here, Here. There is nothing like watching a vet with a scalpel trying to separate a collar from the cats neck, because it was leather, too small & the cats flesh growing over it. Asphyxia is a terrible way to die, & would most certainly happened to Lucy(fur!) had it now been removed when it was. Having said that, what I should have said was, either die from the infection the ill fitting collar caused, or asphyxiated!! Whilst I understand reasons stated for a cat being allowed to wear a collar, I don't necessarily agree with them. If you have an indoor cat, why would your cat need a collar? And, If you allow your cat out, then why not chip your cat instead. It is easily defined when read by a chip reader. The argument about hunting birds is moot. Cats hunt. It is in their instinct to hunt, & I honestly don't think that it would make any difference to birds, unless every single cat were made to wear them..which in itself is unworkable because cats are abandoned, not cared for by some owners. Also, who would take the responsibility for the feral cat population? Unless the powers that be, decided to have a mass cull which would cause a public uproar. For the reasons I have outlined I see this as unworkable & unfeasible too Whatever anyone says about using safety collars, really does need to see the consequences of what a collar can do to a cat or kitten, before making a judgment on whether it is the right thing to do, or not as the case might be. If one were to argue that it marks ownership & The address of whom the cat belongs to- Chip your cat. Simple really! I think that I could agree to chipping a cat, however, culpability for the cats actions is another issue entirely. You can't possibly make he owner responsible for the cats actions. As stated, it is a semi wild creature. The next thing we will hear is that there is going to be a Hedge Hog tax. utterly ridiculous!! Sheelagh |
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